DAILY ABC Court News Tweets (from the courtroom updated all day long)

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Due to the enormous amount of time that is spent by both Admin and myself working on the court transcripts, WeAreTheWorld. will now be taking over both the ABC tweets and the Anthony McCartney tweets.

These are the jury questionairre questions being tweeted along with courtroom updates-from https://twitter.com/ABC7Courts

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4/2/13 Tweets

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Question: would you find it difficult to award $0 damages to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member, even if failed to prove?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Question: wound it be difficult to award multi millions of dollars to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Questionnaire: do you have any negative feelings about people who bring lawsuits for monetary damages? Should there be limits on the award?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Questionnaire asks if juror has declared bankruptcy or had major financial problems. It asks about if he person ever felt harassed at work.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Then questionnaire goes into social media, asking if the person has Facebook or twitter. Next is point of view, from conservative to liberal

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Questionnaire asks if juror follows the news and, if so, from where (TV, Internet, radio, etc) It asks if the person has ever written a blog

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Questionnaire asks if juror knows any judges, attorneys, court personnel. Also, it asks about medical conditions and if he/she was ever sued

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Jury questionnaire begins with personal questions: name, date of birth, residency, level of education, employment, jury experience.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Here's a picture of the front page of the jury questionnaire. pic.twitter.com/wO89TLLgPc

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After jurors are qualified based on time, they'll be given a questionnaire. First questions are personal: residency area, level of education

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Everyone now excused for lunch break. We'll be back at 1:30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h This part of jury selection is just excuse for hardship, which means excuse the people who can't serve on a trial for 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attorneys talking to the judge and telling her which jurors they want to jointly dismiss and the ones they want to question further.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Before I forget, kudos to Judge Palazuelos and her staff for being very friendly to everyone present, whether media rep or public members!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The lengthy questionnaire has 25 pages and 123 questions. I'm going over the doc now and will tweet the most relevant questions.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h @Honeytania You're very welcome! Let us know if you have any questions!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Some Michael Jackson fans are in the courtroom as well. Jury selection has been moved to a bigger courtroom to accommodate everyone.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attys for all sides are now looking at the answers provided by the jurors. Once they are qualified for time, they'll answer a questionnaire.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We'll be covering the trial daily and will tweet as much as possible. Judge has denied live tweeting, but that's still under discussion.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge said trial will be Mon-Thu from 9:30 am to noon, 1:30 pm to 4:00/4:30 pm and Fridays 9:00 am to noon, 2:30 to 4:00/4;30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First panel of 35 jurors have been ordered to return at 1:30p to discuss their answer to whether they can serve 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge told potential jurors that trial is estimated to last 90 days. Then, judge asked them to answer whether they can serve that long.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h One panel with 35 potential jurors came into the courtroom to begin the jury selection process. Judge read a statement of the case to them.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We are told Katherine Jackson plans to attend the entire trial, but won't be present until opening statements are set to begin.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge Yvette Palazuelos, who's presiding over the trial, took camera request under submission and will rule on it before opening statement.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, argued against camera, saying it could interfere with the due process and intimidate witnesses.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Brian Panish, atty for Katherine Jackson and the children, argued in favor of cameras. "All we ask is that the truth be seen by everyone."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First on the agenda was a motion brought by the media to ask the judge to allow the trial to be televised, just like in Murray trial.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Good morning everyone. Today the civil trial in the wrongful death of Michael Jackson begins. Katherine Jackson and the kids are suing AEG.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21h HEADS UP: Starting tomorrow, we'll be live tweeting the Jackson lawsuit against promoter AEG in the death of Michael Jackson

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by **Admin** Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:09 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m That concludes Day 36 of testimony. What are your thoughts so far? Hope to see you all tomorrow!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Judge adjourned session until 9:45 am PT tomorrow when Dr. Matheson will resume testimony. Attorneys to argue motion before that.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m "The fact that Mr. Phillips realizes that's important, to me he realizes there's a potential for conflict in this scenario."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m As to Phillips writing Dr. Murray is extremely successful and doesn't need this gig, Dr. Matheson reacted:

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m "We wouldn't normally put an athlete back in the game while their health was declining," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Phillips' response 'I will call you when I figure this out' showed that Phillips was in charge, Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m But it also showed it wasn't working, MJ was still weak and showing psychological problems, Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Ortega's reference that 'we brought Dr. Murray into the fold' shows Dr. Matheson that there's a full alignment with the way they thought.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Phillips responded "we have a real problem here," which Dr. Matheson said showed Phillips recognized there was a problem with MJ.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "Basket case is a strong word, doubt is pervasive is fairly strong statement," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Regarding chain email "Trouble at the Front":
Dr Matheson said he was intrigued Hougdahl needed to qualify he wasn't being 'a drama queen'

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "Doctors should be able to make independent medical decision on what the best care is for the patient," Dr. Matheson expressed.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Bloss: What impact would that have on Dr. Murray?
Dr. Matheson: He wouldn't have a job and he wouldn't have an income

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "If MJ was unable to rehearse or perform, the show would stop completely," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m The pressure increases as you get close to the end of the game, for example, Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m "The result of a conflict of interest could be a bad medical decision," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m "The email shows lack of independent decision," Dr. Matheson said about Phillips' email.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m As to Phillips' email saying AEG was paying doc salary email:
"That very directly relates to the intent to control the doctors' decision."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr. Matheson said the email pointed some health concerns that needed attentoion, questioned if physician was making independent decisions.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Bloss talked about emails exchanged. On 6/14/09 Ortega asked who was responsible for MJ's nourishment, advised doctor didn't allow rehearsal

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m "That conflicts which priority is primary: MJ or producer of shows," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Dr. Matheson: It can produce bias in thinking, the doctor wants to retain that payment and please the producer paying him.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Dr. Matheson said the contract was subject to immediate termination if show was canceled or postponed.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m "When doctors take on roles, you want them to make independent medical decisions not tied to secondary interests," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "I think Dr. Murray needed to be paid certain amount of money, because he owed a lot of money," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "It's a lot of money to be paid to a physician, particularly a physician who was deeply indebted," Dr. Matheson testified.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "The contract was negotiated," Dr. Matheson opined. "I think Dr. Murray was operating under the assumption the contract was enforced."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Dr. Matheson: "I think in this case the conflict of interest led to poor medical decisions."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m "When MJ was deteriorating, I think that conflict of interest played out," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "Contract made him answerable to AEG," Dr. Matheson said. "It could be canceled if the tour were canceled or terminated.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Dr. Matheson said he believes Dr. Murray was in a conflicting position, promised payment he was to receive to get MJ ready.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Bloss: Do you believe there was conflict of interest between MJ and AEG?
Dr Matheson: Yes, I do. I believe they created conflict of interest

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "I think Mr. Jackson's performance was highly physical, similar to what an athlete does," Dr. Matheson expressed.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Dr Matheson never worked in music industry but said one of the most obvious relations between sports/musicians is the 3 way party scenario

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Dr. Matheson never testified as a witness before. He's been paid $500/hour, got information with colleagues on what to charge.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Dr. Matheson said Dr. Rice loved football, and her quote was that if she were a man, she would play football.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Dr. Matheson worked with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at Stanford in the conflict of interest area.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m "When someone stands to gain, it stands to affect their decision-making," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Dr. Matheson said conflict of interest is circumstances that create risks that decisions may be unduly influenced for secondary interest.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m "The minute you have a three way party there may be conflict of interest," Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m "In clinical practice it's you and patient," Dr. Matheson said. "But in team practice you have 3 way parties: patients, coach, agent, etc"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m He has worked with Canadian hockey team, Olympic games as medical officer and looked after university teams prior to Stanford.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Dr. Matheson was recruited to Stanford to take care of their sports medicine program and their athletes.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Sports medicine is the care of athlete involved in competitive endeavors and physical activity, nutrition and health, Dr. Matheson explained

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Dr. Matheson work splits between teaching, research and medical care. He has written about 150 articles for professional publications.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Dr. Matheson is a physician, works at Stanford University, Professor in the School of Medicine, sports medicine.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m That concluded Dr. Earley's video deposition. Next plaintiff called Dr. Gordon Matheson, a conflict of interest specialist.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Dr Earley: Being around physicians triggered drug craving inadvertently and power was inverted. MJ was in the power seat cause of his status

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Dr. Earley: I saw nothing on the record showing that in the last two months of his life any doctor, but Dr. Murray, gave him Propofol

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m "Unfortunately, doctors became a source of drugs for him," Dr. Earley opined. "Having doctor with him, prescription pad, was dangerous."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m "Addiction memory is a expression I coined," Dr. Earley said. "The brain learns automatically how to maintain the addiction."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Dr. Earley said he remembered some statements in the record that MJ wanted his children to see him perform, wanted to be a good parent.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Dr Earley: Universally was stated in the record MJ's dedication/compassion to his children, wanting the best for them, desire to be good dad

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Dr Earley: Everyone gets motivation from different source. Some by professional reasons, other by family, getting their pride/name back

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Dr. Earley testified some people can overcome addiction with very little initial motivation.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m "There was secrecy, hiding, one doctor not talking to another, that's the kind of stuff we saw," Dr. Earley said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m "No, I don't believe it's proper to blame the addict," Dr. Earley expressed.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Dr. Earley: However, it doesn't mean addict doesn't have to take charge of recovery at some point

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Dr. Earley: I will stand strongly against someone saying it was the addict's fault.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Boyle: Was MJ's death all his own fault?
Dr. Earley: I dedicated my career to take care of addicted people in this planet.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m "Addiction is a biological disease, once it gets going overrides a lot of decision making," Dr. Earley explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Dr Earley: I'm not inferring the family was getting/giving him drugs. There's zero evidence of that, they wanted nothing but the best 4 him

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m "The problem comes from the issue of power," the expert testified. "It's much more difficult to treat a patriarch than the patriarch's son."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m One intervention failed because Michael Jackson appeared quite healthy, Dr. Earley said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Dr. Earley testified he saw no evidence the family gave MJ drugs."I'm completely clear his family wanted nothing but to help him."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Dr. Earley said he would've given MJ skills called drug refusal, unearth tragic secrecy surrounding his life, which contributed to his death

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Dr Earley would prescribe naltrexone, alternative ways to manage pain. He would close down access to opioid, contact every doctor, pharmacy

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m He would also explain the need for prolonged period of rehab, more than 3 months and less than year treatment.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Dr. Earley said if he were to treat MJ, he would have tried to understand if family could stand behind him not obtaining drugs.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m MJ was extremely secretive regarding his style, would not talk about drug use to all physicians treating him, Dr. Earley testified.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Also, the fact MJ was providing financial resources to family made it harder for an intervention, Dr. Earley opined.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Dr. Earley: His legendary status caused people to, unfortunately, set aside boundaries

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m "MJ was taking opioids for a prolonged period of time," Dr. Earley said, which decreased his prognosis.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Detox is difficult, slow but safe and preferred. "I don't make my medical decisions based on corporate decision," Dr. Earley testified.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "Benzodiazepine requires cautious, careful taper," Dr. Earley said. Some individuals are very sensitive, it's very difficult to get off."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Occasionally, Dr. Earley had to give sedative drugs because patients are agitated and irritable.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "When people are addicted to Propofol, you just stop it," Dr. Earley said. "Discontinuing it is not life threatening."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Dr. Earley said he did not see any record that Dr. Murray treated MJ with suboxone.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m "I saw evidence MJ was treated with buprenorphine, I think by doctor Saunders," Dr. Earley said, but couldn't remember the dates.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Dr. Earley explained the current practice to treat opioid dependency is to use a drug called buprenorphine (suboxone).

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m Dr. Earley: Discontinuing opioids cold turkey is not life threatening, it can be done. Before we had detox drug, that's what I would do.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Dr. Earley: Chills is very generic symptom and could mean anything: flu, cold, low blood sugar, lots of different reasons people have chills

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m "When you take away the Propofol, you have insomnia," Dr. Earley explained. People can be irritable, don't have chills, some had seizures.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Dr. Earley: MJ most likely had some baseline insomnia, which was worsen by the use of benzodiazepine and Propofol use

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Dr. Earley said the withdrawal of Propofol can cause depression, insomnia and irritability.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Dr. Earley conducted a case study with 22 Propofol dependent individuals. The study was funded by AEG Live.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m "I'd like to say I wouldn't have done what other doctors did" Dr. Earley testified."Prescribing MJ's Propofol ultimately caused his death"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Dr. Earley said Michael was a man whose reputation, skills, wonder exceeded 99% of the people in the planet, so it was hard to say no to him

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Other contributing factors for opioid dependency: psychological issues, early life trauma, access to drug, alcohol abuse.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m It matters whether your parents had substance abuse or dependency disorder, but not true in 100 percent of the cases, Dr. Earley said

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Opioids dependency start when they're used, Dr. Earley explained. He said the single largest contributor is genetic.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h However, Dr. Earley said he didn't think there was sufficient data to reach a conclusive opinion about MJ being addicted to Propofol.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After reviewing MJ's medical record, Dr. Earley opined: "There's evidence of addiction to opioids dating back to early 1990s."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Earley opined that benzodiazepines alone were not the cause of MJ's death, but the synergy with propofol was fatal.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Kevin Boyle: Do you think Demerol addiction caused MJ's death?
Dr. Earley: I do not

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h There was no morning session today. Afternoon began with resumption of video deposition of Dr. Paul Earley played last week.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Day 36 of Jackson family vs AEG trial just ended. Katherine Jackson was in court, wearing a polka dot jacket, for the afternoon only session

by **MJ Mod** Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:35 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m As to email "he was shaking, couldn’t cut food, no shape to go on stage” Dr Matheson reacted: "It's indication health concern is serious"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Matheson opined the email demonstrates “pushback” - Not good for a producer or team owner to be involved directly with the player or artist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m About Phillips saying 'The doctor is successful, completely unbiased.' Dr. Matheson said that tells exec was aware of conflict of interest

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "It's also evident that there are conflict of interest issues," Dr. Matheson expressed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Bloss asked about email from Phillips to Ortega on June 20. Phillips was recognizing the decline of Jackson's health, Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Doctor Gordon Matheson resumed testimony. Jacksons' counsel William Bloss doing direct examination.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Katherine present in bright coral tapestry jacket over black floor length shift. Today is the 4th anniversary of Michael Jackson's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 37 of testimony in Jackson family vs AEG trial underway.

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:36 pm

God bless and be with Katherine Jackson. I'm sure it took great strength for her to go into court today.

by **MJ Mod** Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:43 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h That wraps Day 37 of trial. We hope to see you all tomorrow for complete coverage of Prince's testimony.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Live witness testimony tomorrow: Prince (MJ's son) TJ Jackson (children's co-guardian) Taj Jackson (TJ's brother) will testify on Thursday

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attorneys had no more questions to Dr. Matheson. He was then excused. Session is adjourned until tomorrow morning at 9:45 PT

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Conflict of interest erodes judgement unconsciously in a way you're not even aware of it," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to Dr. Murray buying Propofol, Dr. Matheson said "I think AEG Live enabled it, yes."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina: It wasn't in Dr. Murray's interest to keep MJ unhealthy Dr. Matheson: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson said the record shows Dr. Finkelstein didn't get the job because MJ wanted to bring his own physician.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bloss: How many as severe as the one here? Dr. Matheson: None

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "The conflict of interest environment in this case was severe," Dr. Matheson opined. He's been in this field for 35 years.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I believe AEG indicated, the record indicates AEG acted in way they felt they employed Dr. Murray," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It was effectively put in place and the doctor was engaged whether Mr. Jackson signed it or not," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It says to me the agreement was being constructed and negotiated without Mr. Jackson's input," Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson said he was not aware of any efforts to send Dr. Murray's contract drafts to MJ's people.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "A conflict of interest isn't a single event," Dr. Matheson testified. "It's a set of circumstances that develop over a period of time."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson said it takes much more than 10 days to wind down a busy practice.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It's hard to leave a practice," Dr. Matheson said. He said it takes a long time to build the practice, normally doctors sells the practice.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson said he doesn't believe the analogy Bina offered regarding credit card paying for your health care is related to this case.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to Dr. Finkelstein, Dr. Matheson said he recalls Gongaware discussed possibility of doctor going on the tour with a couple of conditions.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson said he reviewed other depositions with exhibits attached prior to his own deposition.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Matheson: Any time symptoms are brought forward, there's a need to be paid attention to. In this case they weren't.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: The concern should be for the artist's health.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Likely that was not a friendly meeting, that was a confrontational meeting," Dr. Matheson said about meeting where Dr. Murray left angry.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Conflict of interest was set up, physical symptoms appeared and there was an attempt to control those," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Conflict of interest contributed in a very significant way in Dr. Murray's standard of care," Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Murray said he had the situation under control. The issue was that he wasn't reliable, Dr Matheson explained; he was very heavily conflicted

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h If MJ was severely stressed about the tour, Dr. Matheson said the producers have to listen to artist. "The artist knows their body better."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said he wasn't suggesting Phillips forced MJ to go to their doctor, but they could've taken him to ER for another set of eyes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h If Jackson denied it, they should have had a discussion about it, Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "We want you to see a doctor before you come back," Dr. Matheson said Phillips could have told.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: Phillips has the right to say I'm concerned with your health, you can't come back to rehearsal until you're checked out

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Do you think Mr. Phillips has the right to question MJ's health?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: But, presumably, MJ went home his doctor, right? Dr. Matheson: There's no record of that

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: So you think it's appropriate for producer to dictate MJ's care? Dr. Matheson: Phillips was the one receiving the information

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Conflict of interest happened if there was influence on decision making, Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: There's nothing wrong with concert promoter to ask if there was anything they can do to help? Dr. Matheson: Not if used those terms

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: That's part of the conflict, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Isn't the real problem in this case not Dr. Murray's feelings towards AEG, but that he gave in to Michael Jackson?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Agreement required Dr. Murray to have malpractice insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said he had to fill out a lot of forms and take a test to obtain his license in the US. Dr. Matheson is originally from Canada.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "To me, this is a document that indicates what the intention was," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said if there was no reference to service requested by AEG, that sentence wouldn't be part of his opinion.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Murray's contract said 'Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer.' Bina said the contract was supposed to read "by Artist".

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said he's spent 100 hours on this case. He's making $500/hour, which adds up to $50k so far.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: If I pay for my health care by credit care, does the credit card has the right of dictating my health care? Dr. Matheson: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He had a choice,"Dr. Matheson said. "That choice may have been to forfeit his job."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The greater the conflict, the increased likelihood of bad decisions will be made," Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't think it's possible under the terms of this case," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Is it possible to have doctor ethically go on tour with artist? Dr. Matheson: It's possible if the conditions are right

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h After lunch break, Bina resumed cross examination of Dr. Matheson. Katherine Jackson was also present for the afternoon session.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Even when you believe the artist is healthy? Dr. Matheson: It creates a risk

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: No. I wouldn’t. The conflict of interest is too high

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Are you aware of Gongaware's testimony oneffort to get MJ to agree to London doctor but MJ saying no. AEG should not have done that?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: If MJ said I want to bring my long term doctor on board, your opinion is that AEG should have said No you cannot? Dr. Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: "I don’t know if people had concerns about his health. I think people had concerns about the show."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina talked about May 2009 and asked if people were concerned about MJ's health.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: My understanding is that Murray's treatment was episodic not regular.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Dr. Murray would still be beholden to AEG," Dr. Matheson opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: What if AEG just fronts $34 million? Dr. Matheson: Dr. Conrad Murray would be still conflicted

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Is it fair to say that you are making more money because you agree with the plaintiffs? Dr. Matheson: I don’t need this job

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I found the lawyers to be very supportive of evaluating records and making my own decisions," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Would that eliminate the conflict of interest? Dr. Matheson: It would minimize conflict of interest

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: AEG should have said we are not experts in medical care so we want to get experts in medical care to make an assessment.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina asked if MJ told AEG he'd want to bring his personal doctor on tour, what should AEG have done.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: A group only? Dr. Matheson: It is hard to imagine only one person.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: I would get people who have expertise in a particular area, develop a particular group in London.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h That is for assessment initially, Dr. Matheson explained. "Then for the tour I would hire a team of people to provide care during the tour."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Ethically you'd want an assessment of the artist," Dr. Matheson said. "It would require a team of people because there are various aspects"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: I would set up a staff, conduct a comprehensive medical assessment

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: If you were setting up a tour in Europe, what would you sent up for ethical arrangement?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Do you know how the deal for Celine Dion’s doctor is structured? Or Rolling Stones? Dr. Matheson: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: Should structure deal so termination and cancellation are not incorporated in deal

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: The only way to structure a deal would be to give $1.5 million up front?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Was MJ able to consent to that relationship? Dr. Matheson: Yes, but signature line put him in contract as a participant

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The physician's concerns are not going to be the same as treating a football player," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "No injuries are expected in performance as in typical team sports," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Average Medical school grad has $200,000 in debt Dr. Matheson: Yes. Just to become a doctor is expensive

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: If MJ demanded propofol, begged, Dr. Murray violated his duties? Assuming he did that, did he violate his duties? Dr. Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "If conflict of interest develops, it must be resolved to the patient's interest," Dr. Matheson opined; doctors have duty to patient.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: You said it's the system's responsibility, but it's physician's responsibility to place the patients welfare first? Dr Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: You are not an expert in the concert industry? Dr. Matheson: No. B: Never worked in entertainment industry? Dr. M: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson reviewed Det. Martinez' testimony, half of Mr. Phillips' testimony (3 days), Kai Chaise and Travis Payne's testimony.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson explained plaintiffs chose him because there was a 3 way relationship analogous to the sports industry.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina asked if Dr. Matheson is an expert in general medical ethics. He answered no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: It was everyone’s interest to play the entire show? Dr. Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: Dr. Murray was just going to treat MJ and family, not Kenny Ortega or others on tour? Dr. Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bina: In general a 50 year old man is competent to chose his personal physician? Dr. Matheson: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did re-cross of Dr Matheson. Bina asked if Stanford reviewed his credit prior to his hire. He said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: Although we expect all professionals to act in the best interests of the patient, their judgement is often affected.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bloss: How about the fact AEG would be repaid through the proceeds of the tour? Dr Matheson: The conflict of the interest is still present

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: AEG chose to set up that structure and they didn’t have to do that

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bloss: Does the fact that AEG hired Dr. Murray at the behest of MJ make a difference?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "May have to do it over the objection of the player," Dr. Matheson explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The role of the physician is to make the right decision for the short term and the long term," Dr. Matheson said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bloss asked if an athlete doesn’t want to get out of the game, what should a doctor do.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: When you get information, you need to act on that information rather than label it as hysteria.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said Phillips put forth information regarding a health problem with MJ, qualified by Ortega hysteria.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said emails showed it was business as usual, continued pushback. Kenny’s hysteria is in check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson: It says Phillips is not sure, first says it's covered, then he questions doctors effectiveness.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to 'Trouble at the Front' email where Phillips says Dr. Murray 'is not a psychiatrist so I am not sure how effective he can be..."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It would have been inappropriate, shows AEG still wanted to manage the doctors decision," Dr. Matheson testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to Phillips saying "Take the doctor with you", Dr. Matheson said it means AEG wanted to have some input, influence in the meeting.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson said Phillips was trying to diagnose the problem, yet Jackson was being put back in rehearsal; that is a concern.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Matheson - “First and foremost we want an understanding of what the problem is. That is what leads us to the proper treatment.”

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h We just wanted to bring you latest on breaking news. Now back to Dr. Matheson's testimony. ;-)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Attorney also gave us insight on how Katherine Jackson is coping on the 4th anniversary of MJ's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Watch @ABC7 and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for interview with Jackson's attorney about Prince's testimony tomorrow.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h T.J. Jackson, the co-conservator of MJ's children, will testify after Prince. Taj, T.J.'s brother, will come on Thursday.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Testimony just ended for the day. Michael Jackson's son, Prince, will take the stand tomorrow!

by **MJ Mod** Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:24 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Panish played clip of song "You are my life", which MJ wrote for the kids. Prince watched.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Recent photo of Grace and Blanket. pic.twitter.com/dHrccTKAjL

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Grace, Paris and Blanket. pic.twitter.com/HNINi0XtEs

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Grace, Paris and Prince Jackson. pic.twitter.com/Z222fNR2fF

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Prince said Grace worked with MJ before he was born then came on as nanny after his sister was born. She worked with them for about 12 years

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Panish: Was you dad protective of you? Prince: Very

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "He used to make sure no one would know how we looked like; when we went out no one would recognize us, we could be normal kids" Prince said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish inquired about the masks the children wore while with MJ in public. pic.twitter.com/KpyWBnWpRk

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he really didn't know how famous his dad was until he watched movie of MJ's concert with girls crying, taken out in stretchers.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I don't think he ever sat and did nothing, we were always running, exercising, he would teach me how to drive," Prince responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if Prince would describe his father as "lazy."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Every time he would ask how we would help the world," Prince said. "Most my work ethics I learned from my dad."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince testified that day was the first time his dad taught him how to tie a tie.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paris said she wanted help the poor, and be a gymnast.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish showed a Christmas video, where MJ is asking the kids what they wanted to do in life. He told Paris to search your heart.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h At this point, some fans crying in the overflow room.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "We watched the sound afterwards and he would show how the sound could actually make or break the movie," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince described how he and MJ would first watch movie without sound to learn to find the good shots.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince: We wrote a lot of screenplays, my dad taught me how to write scripts, helped me unlock thinking with the right side of my brain.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He (MJ) wanted to know what we were learning," Prince said. "He wanted to know how we were doing in school, how we could better the world."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Nanny changed from time to time, but mostly it was Grace Rwamba, Prince said. pic.twitter.com/P8ythTNzoR

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "My dad had a lot of business, not just music, and he wanted to take us, he didn't want to leave us," Prince testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said that after Neverland they travelled a bit: went to Bahrain, Ireland, Dubai, Aspen and New York for a little, and then to Vegas.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h MJ wrote the song"The Lost Children" for his children, Panish played clips of the song.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said MJ loved making films of them. Panish showed several home movies and pictures of the children and Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "We only went there (amusement park and zoo) for special occasions, because my dad wanted us to remain humble," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said Neverland's zoo had pet giraffe, alpacas; amusement park, poetry his dad wrote.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said that Neverland was a family home, that everyone was family, from housekeeper to nanny. He said they had amusement park and zoo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h About Neverland, Prince explained: "When my dad bought the house, he built it for the kids he wanted to have, he built it for us."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paris Jackson pic.twitter.com/tItNLL4CiJ

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said MJ always dressed them up so when he grew up, he could show his kids how he looked when little pic.twitter.com/qWDsNrm3JE

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paris and Prince. pic.twitter.com/HSi5MYMscl

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I cannot play and definitely cannot sing," Prince said when they showed the piano picture.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "After the criminal case there were some complications in the house from the police; I guess they ruined the house for him" Prince testified

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he lived in Neverland and in France. Neverland was a property his dad owned and he lived there until he was 6 years old.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he wants to help out as much as he can, got the desire to help from his father.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h He described how he brought books and read to the kids that were in the cancer wards.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h MJ's son said community service is required in school and he does it at the Children's Hospital in LA.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince described how Michael taught him to find the good shots in movies, encouraged him to learn about films.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince wants to go to college at USC to study either Film, or Mechanical science or business.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he has a 3.68 GPA. He said education is something important to him because it is something his dad taught them.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h In school Prince works with metal. He said he's the mechanic, there is a team that design robots and they compete nationally.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince used to play football and basketball, did martial arts.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince is taking US History class in the summer, a very compact course. He belongs to the National honor society, received artistic award.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Blanket, Prince and Paris Jackson. Prince likes guns, but said his dad didn't. pic.twitter.com/StUC9U9C5T

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince and his little sister Paris Jackson. pic.twitter.com/1mIFzVSqyV

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Picture shown to the jury of MJ and Prince trying to play the piano. pic.twitter.com/rZ35fvZtw6

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Prince said he attends Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, has just finished up sophomore year.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Prince said Paris he's 15 years old, born on Apr 3, 1998. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson, known as Blanket, was born on Feb 21, 2001; he's 11

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h He said he was born on Feb 13, 1997, he's 16 years old. Prince was born at Cedars Sinai Hospital.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Are you nervous? Prince: A little bit

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Prince was originally named after the family name, but then his brother Blanket was born and they called him Prince.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Jackson's attorney Brian Panish did direct examination. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson sworn in at 9:57 am PT. "Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Prince arrived with Katherine, TJ and Trent Jackson. He's wearing a dark suit and dark tie, white shirt.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8h Lots of media and fans present today. Our report Miriam Hernandez is in de courtroom. We are in the overflow room as well.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8h Prince Jackson is already in the courthouse. He's wearing a suit and tie.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8h Good Morning from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 38 of Jackson family vs AEG trial to begin shortly.

by **MJ Mod** Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:36 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Putnam: Did you father give money to Dr. Murray? Prince: Not directly

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m "I saw my dad offer money to him, but he would never take it," Prince explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Putnam asked why MJ wouldn't give Dr. Murray money himself. "My dad tried to, but he would've never take the money," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Panish finished his questioning. Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, did the cross examination.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m "We have someone, but it's just not the same," Prince said. Panish: Do you miss your dad a lot? Prince: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Prince: Blanket was so young, my brother is still growing up like I am, he doesn't have a dad to tell him what's right and wrong

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "Me and my sister don't celebrate birthdays, it was something we did with our dad," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Panish: Is she going through a rough time? Prince: Yes, she is

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Prince: I think out of my siblings she (Paris) was hit the hardest, she was my dad'd little princess. She's dealing with it in her own way

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Panish: Do you think your dad is proud of your robotics work? Prince: Maybe, I tried making him proud

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Prince said he wished his father was with him 1st day of school, talk about his first girlfriend, being able to drive, see his awards/honors

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m After MJ died: "I can't sleep at night, have hard time sleeping" Prince said. "For a while, I became emotionally distant from lot of people"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Prince said his grandma Katherine Jackson and cousin TJ are his guardians.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Children during MJ's memorial service. pic.twitter.com/21wZjmb2NS

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Blanket pic.twitter.com/Y7Tleftm7w

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Paris Jackson pic.twitter.com/9vLyRsDPff

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Prince in his first TV debut as reporter/host of entertainment show pic.twitter.com/hw81E8WJps

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Prince in Germany pic.twitter.com/cOD7MXXXvg

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Children with grandma Katherine pic.twitter.com/wup9elfYWv

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Prince at Children's Hospital doing community service pic.twitter.com/3cqDZ7dSFv

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Prince said they go back to Gary, Indiana for memorial services in the house MJ grew up on. pic.twitter.com/OvA00e5kRB

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Prince said he now lives with his grandma, cousin Trent, his sister and brother in Calabasas.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Prince said Paris speaking during the memorial service was not planned.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Sister Rose, my sister, my brother, me, security guard, Dr. Conrad Murray and Frank DiLeo were in the room. Fans cried in the overflow room

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Prince said Frank DiLeo and Dr. Murray told them 'sorry kids, dad is dead.' They said it was a heart attack "I just cried," Prince recalled

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m "My dad always told us that angels always look out for us," Prince said. He tried to comfort his siblings.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m "I was waiting in the bottom of the stairs crying," Prince said. He saw the stretcher take MJ to the hospital. They followed the ambulance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m "Me and my sister came upstairs," Prince said. "My sister was screaming the whole time, she wanted her daddy." Kids were escorted downstairs

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m "I saw Dr. Conrad doing CPR on my dad," Prince testified. "My dad was hanging halfway off the bed and his eyes were rolled back in his head"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m "I ran into the kitchen, saw Dr. Murray go back upstairs, Alberto just came inside, Kai said Dr Murray wanted me upstairs," Prince described

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m The day MJ died, Prince recalled being downstairs in the sitting room. He heard screaming coming from upstairs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Prince said he saw MJ last the day before he died. Last phone conversation was when he called his dad to say Randy Phillips was at the house

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Prince: Sometimes he would be really cold. Sometimes really hot. He was not strong enough.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m A few weeks later, Prince said MJ was working a lot and looked really, really skinny, almost malnourished.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m "From my perspective back them I thought he was healthy," Prince said about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m "I was surprised they were all in the house," Prince said. "I hadn't seen Dr. Tohme in a while, I still didn't like him."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said: "From what I heard he's not even a real doctor."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m "I came in and asked if they'd like something to drink or eat," Prince said. "Randy Phillips was talking to Dr. Murray, grabbing his elbow."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Prince said MJ was in rehearsals either the night before or 2 nights before he died, Phillips showed up at the house to talk to Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Panish: Did it surprise you? Prince: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m "He (Phillips) was grabbing him (Dr. Murray) by the back of the elbow, they were really close," Prince recalled.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m "I saw him talk twice to Dr. Murray," Prince testified. "He was grabbing his elbow and looked aggressive to me."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Phillips would come either with Dr. Tohme or some other man to his house, Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m "I'd give him but he'd only take a portion of it" Prince recalled. He said money was to help Murray with the basics like food, water and gas

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Prince said AEG wasn't paying Murray and MJ felt bad. "My dad used to give me couple hundred dollars to give to Murray," Prince testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Prince: No, I was 12 and to my understanding he (Dr. Murray) was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Prince said he saw IV bags and oxygen tanks at the house. Panish: Did you think it was weird to have oxygen tanks?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m "To my understanding the door to his bedroom was locked" Prince said. "When I tried I think he was meditating on Skype w/ person from India"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Prince said Blanket excels in school.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Prince showed where his bedroom was. Paris had her own, Blanket would go back/forth between their bedrooms pic.twitter.com/jdOtJ4ht7a

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Prince: All the times, on mirrors, bathroom doors. Sometimes it was song lyrics or messages he got down from religious or spiritual leaders

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m Panish: Did your dad write notes?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Prince said that when Dr. Murray first started treating MJ he would do it in the library, and later on in the master bedroom upstairs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m "I saw him give my dad IV injection once, I thought it was vitamins," Prince recalled about Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m "Dr. Murray came over every day, except Sunday night. He spent the nights," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Prince said he remembers Cherilyn Lee coming to the house to give his dad IVs. He said he thought it was vitamins.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Prince said he first met Dr Conrad Murray in Vegas. "He came over to our house to treat us for multiple sickness, cold and things like that"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m "My dad was always optimistic," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Prince: We applauded him, we didn't like being around him (Dr. Tohme), he brought bad energy to us.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Prince: When at the Bel Air Hotel, my dad tried to fire Dr. Tohme. He got in a fight on the phone, yelled

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m "My dad didn't fight, he was like my grandma, too kind to fight, that's why he called my grandpa," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "He (MJ) would say "they are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me", Prince testified, referring mostly to AEG and Randy Phillips, and Tohme

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "He'd get off the phone, he would cry sometimes," Prince said. "They are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me," Prince said MJ would say

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m Prince saw MJ on the phone. Most of the times, it was with Randy Phillips or Dr. Tohme.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said MJ would come home from rehearsal, he just wished he had more time to rehearse and have more time to prepare.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he saw MJ perform once when he was little.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He was very excited about the tour, this would've been probably last time we would be able to see him perform," Prince expressed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince talked about MJ's dealings with AEG and Dr. Tohme: "No, from what he (MJ) told me he wasn't happy with it."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said they lived in a hotel before moving to Carolwood before Christmas 2008.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: How did you feel when you, your brother, sister and dad were living in Vegas? Prince: That was happy for us

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: How did you feel then? Prince: Very happy

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Next Panish played video of the Christmas when kids got their chocolate Labrador dog named Kenya.

by **MJ Mod** Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:08 am

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m We hope to see you tomorrow for complete coverage of the trial. Watch @ABC7 and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for all the latest.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Tomorrow's witnesses: TJ and Taj Jackson. Jackson's attorney told us they aren't sure if Paris will testify. It's up to her doctor to ok it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m That ended video testimony of Leiweke. It was admitted into evidence. Judge ended session early. Jurors ordered back tomorrow at 9:45 am PT

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Leiweke wrote email saying "Trouble with MJ. Big Trouble." He testified he didn't remember this specific email.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m "We were aware that MJ had missed several rehearsals," Leiweke said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Boyle said the chain was forwarded to Leiweke. The exec apologized and said he doesn't remember ever seeing the emails.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m "I've never seen this email between Randy and Kenny," Leiweke said about the 'Trouble at the Front' email chain.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Leiweke testified he never saw or heard the name Dr. Murray on pretour budgets.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Leiweke said he never met Murray and/or exchanged emails, calls with him. The exec didn't remember specifically the 1st time he heard of him

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "Michael asked to meet Mr. Anschutz to talk about films," Leiweke said about the third meeting in Las Vegas.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m Boyle: What was the reason of the meeting? Leiweke: There wasn't really one. We prayed a lot

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m Second time was in the guest house of Ron Burkle in Los Angeles. Jessie Jackson was there too, Leiweke said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m "Michael wanted to tour," Leiweke said about the first meeting. "AEG Live was interested."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m Leiweke met Michael Jackson in person either 4 or 5 times.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m "Mr. Anschutz is very tight," Leiweke said. "I don't remember this email but I remember him being concerned tickets were being scalped."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Boyle asked if Mr. Anschutz was concerned with ticket scalping. "There had never been in AEG Live anyone scalping tickets" Leiweke responded

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Boyle: Did you ever refer to Mr. Anschutz as paranoid scrooge? Leiweke: I don't remember any specific conversation

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "We wanted to make sure that he was healthy," Leiweke said. "I believe our folks had a medical for the purpose of MJ and his health."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I remember it was an expensive commitment he as asking us to make," Leiweke said about the This Is It tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke said he met Dr. Tohme once or twice in passing. He said he didn't remember ever having a meeting with Dr. Tohme about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke didn't remember a specific board meeting where Phillips Anschutz was present and the tour budget was the sole topic.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I knew Randy had production costs issues," Leiweke said. Leiweke didn't remember the exact number they had overspent.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke said he was in an important meeting and asked Phillips to fill him in later.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h A subsequent conversation, everyone had calmed down, Leiweke said. "He was informing me that the press conference was going to be delayed"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke said Phillips called to say Michael had a hangover, they were late to get to the press conference and Randy was wound up.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I said that five times, is that good enough?" Leiweke responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I got a call from Randy Phillips about the press conference," Leiweke staid. However, he insisted he didn't remember the email.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke said he didn't remember the email Phillips sent him saying "MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Boyle: Do the doctors work for the team or for the players? Leiweke: I'm not sure

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I'm not sure who hires the doctors for the Kings," Leiweke said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Kevin Boyle: Are you aware the LA Kings have a team physician? Leiweke: I would assume we do

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Leiweke was the highest employee in the company in 2009. He said they have 130 different companies, 7-8 divisions within AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After lunch, Jackson's attorney played video deposition of AEG Inc. CEO and president Tim Leiweke.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince's testimony ended at lunch hour. Everyone was surprised it took only a couple of hours. Attorneys expected to last longer.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It's not how I want to spend my Saturday," Price said about his deposition. Prince was then excused, subject to recall should AEG choose

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Did you think he was being a lawyer representing his client? Prince: As a defense lawyer, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Putnam: Do you remember your grandma thanking us for being so accommodating? Prince: I don't remember that

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h In re-cross, Putnam asked why deposition was on Saturday. Prince said he thinks it was due to school; continued another day

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I thought it was for my dad, so he could get the proteins he needed, he was burning so much," Prince responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince remembered Cherilyn Lee being a nurse. Panish asked if Prince knew what Lee was injecting MJ with.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "AEG was supposed to pay him," Prince said. "Something was going on with Dr. Murray's finance and he wasn't getting paid."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said Dr. Murray wasn't getting paid and that his dad wanted to help him out until he got paid.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: She had some emotional problems after her deposition? Prince: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "She had some problems before, after and I assuming during her deposition," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After his deposition, Prince said he told TJ that Paris shouldn't be able to do that and go through the questioning.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said in re-direct he wasn't scared during his deposition, apologized to the jury for not wear suit that day; it was the weekend

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said security would let AEG people and Dr. Tohme in, but "people like my grandpa were turned away."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he saw Murray and Phillips talking two times. He doesn't remember dates, but thinks the 2nd meeting was the day before MJ died

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said he knew him for about 3 years. He said he never regularly saw him, though.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he learned MJ's bedroom door was locked when he was playing hide and go seek and couldn't get in.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h He said when Dr. Murray started, he also did it in the open.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said that when Cherilyn Lee was treating MJ, she would do it in the open, there was no door to lock.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince testified that not even the housekeeper was allowed to go upstairs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said there was a time in 2009 no one was allowed to go upstairs. Only Dr. Murray could.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Putnam: No employees were allowed upstairs? Prince: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said he didn't remember seeing anyone giving MJ's IV, other than Cherilyn Lee.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said there was a man chef who took Kai Chase's job in May 2009, then was let go and Chase went back.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince said MJ started giving Prince and Paris money to give to Dr. Murray while they were living in Las Vegas.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Me & my sister would do it," he remembers a couple of times. Prince said in depo it was about 10 times, but Murray would not always take it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I don't think Dr. Murray wanted to take the money from my dad, he felt bad," Prince said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Reached twitter limit... Resuming now.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince: He (MJ) never gave him (Dr. Murray) the cash directly, he would always give it us to give to Dr. Murray. He would only take half.

by **MJ Mod** Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:33 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m TJ on grandma Katherine: It's hard, very hard, it's tough for me as her grandson, don't know what to say or do. I try to help with the kids

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m "I think my grandmother was everything to my uncle," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m "My uncle just cherished my grandmother, named everything after her, from mountain to next house," TJ testified. "My grandma is the queen."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m TJ said he lived a couple of blocks away from Hayvenhurst, would go out there to grandma's house quite often.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m "My uncle wad everything for Blanket," TJ said. Blanket was either 7-8 when MJ died.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Blanket was always wrapped around behind MJ's leg, TJ said. "Wherever my uncle was, Blanket was just steps away.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m "I think my uncle knew he would have to be very sharp," TJ said. "Prince had always been mature beyond his years."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m "Prince was my uncle's little assistant," TJ said. He is very mature.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m "For all of them, but for her more being the princess," TJ said about Paris.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m TJ on Paris: It's tough. She was daddy's girl. My uncle was her world, he gave her more love for it to be taken away it's been very hard

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m "I know it's making harder for the kids to progress," TJ said about the paparazzi.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m He agrees with Halle Berry's attempt to create a law preventing paparazzi to follow children. TJ said he supports it 100%.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m TJ talked about the paparazzi. "It's a complete annoyance, it's awful, I feel there should be something done."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m TJ on Paris: I think the loss of my uncle has hit her in a different spot. She's having a difficult time, but we're giving her love/support

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m "Paris has a heart of gold as well," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m "Prince is an amazing person, very strong, very smart," TJ testified; he was always devouring books, very poised and ambitious, very loving.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m "I can't really see myself far away from them until I make sure they are adults and are what they are supposed to be" TJ said about the kids

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m TJ: I don't think I would be able to live properly my life if I didn't try to help my cousins to be who my uncle wanted them to be

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m "She's the one to be commended, her life had changed quite a bit as well," TJ said about grandma Katherine.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m "If they want to go out it the movie they know to ask grandma," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m TJ: Grandma is the overseer, she knows everything that happens, she's there everyday, making decisions

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "Because of who they are, it demands a lot of time and energy," TJ explained saying it's not the kids fault but their high profile status

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m TJ said he does a lot of the doctor's appointments, school stuff, extra curriculum activity, deals with security for children.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "My grandmother is the queen," TJ testified. "She's the CEO and I help her with the day to day stuff (of co-guardianship) as much as I can."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "He was very giving of his time, everything that help put a smile on children's face," TJ explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m As to MJ's charities, TJ said he knows about "Heal the World." He said MJ visited hospital around the world, worked with "Make a Wish".

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m "He would drive around to areas with poor people and would give hundred dollar bills to people to make their lives a little better," TJ said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "He's always given couple of hundred of dollars to myself, my brothers and pretty much whomever was around," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "My uncle was kind of person he would give us some cash," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m TJ: He was very humble, extremely humble, checking on us, talking about school, amazing to see contradiction outside, people cherishing him

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "That was probably the first time I really realized his impact in the world," TJ said about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "On the HIStory tour, I was probably 19, my uncle had a show on a stadium. The whole route there were people clapping," TJ recalled.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m TJ said he never knew how famous his uncle was until he was already grown-up.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Michael Jackson and TJ pic.twitter.com/kGbi3BsHNK

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m "Eventually he did have his kids, and they were everything to him, the joy of his life," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m "He's always wanted to be a parent," TJ said about Michael Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Boyle showed video of 3T and clip of MJ's song "Why." Boyle: Did you consider your uncle your mentor? TJ: Definitely

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "I think he wanted us to earn things in our own," TJ explained, saying MJ would not use his power to benefit the group.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "Specially when my mother passed, he took us under his wing and became important part of our success," TJ said about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m TJ said his mother would call all her children the 3T, which originated the name of the group.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m "From the beginning, along with my father, he was there inspiring us," TJ said about uncle Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m "My brothers and I were doing quite well touring around the world," TJ said, that's why he didn't go to Wharton School in Pennsylvania.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m TJ said MJ wanted him to go, and he regrets turning it down. "He wanted me to go, he just though it was going to be good for me."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m "I got into all three," TJ said. They are all considered the top Business schools in the country. (fans crying in the overflow room)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m TJ said MJ wanted him to go to college. He applied at LMU, UCLA and University of Pennsylvania. He wanted to study Business.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m TJ said he's teaching MJ's children to be ambitious, be giving, be loving, be honest and to make their mark in the world.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m He said he was raised by his brothers, father and when he needed advice he'd turn to his uncle Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m "He was just, he was there. He kept me inspired, he kept me ambitious, he was just there for me," TJ explained about Michael Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m TJ: "My mother was murdered a month after I turned 16. My world crumbled and my uncle Michael saved it"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m "He was just everything," a very emotional TJ responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m TJ broke down when Boyle asked him about his relationship with MJ. He bowed his head for a few minutes and cried.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Prince has a Ford truck, TJ said. No Ferrari, or Porsche, or expensive car.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m TJ testified he's 34 years old and drives a Honda Accord. "I just need something to get from A to B and the Honda has served me well."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m TJ doesn't go to Calasabas, where the children live, during rush hour. Sometimes he's there for six days in a row, sometimes once a week.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m TJ explained Corona is multi-national area. "When I grew up, I was the only black kid in school," he said. "It was some times uncomfortable"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m TJ lives in Corona, CA. He explained that when he had his son Royal, he wanted to slow down the pace, wanted smaller community feeling.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Boyle: I know you're humble, but you sold millions and millions of records? TJ: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m TJ and his brothers Taj and Taryll Jackson compose the 3T group.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Picture shown in court of TJ, his wife Francis, Prince and children pic.twitter.com/U0nXljHZ6L

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m "My primary things are my kids, my cousins and my family," TJ said. Boyle: So you don't have a lot of free time? TJ: No, I don't (laughs)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m TJ' wife is a fitness trainer, and they have their own fitness center. He's also a real estate broker, has license but doesn't practice.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m TJ said he does music with his brothers primarily, he's a third of band "3T."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m TJ said he has 3 biological children and 2 stepchildren. He has 2 daughters, age 2 and 5, 13 year old son, 19 and 21 year old stepchildren.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m TJ said he's from Encino, CA, raised there like most of his family. He went to Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, same as Prince attends now.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m TJ is cousin and co-guardian of Michael's children.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Katherine Jackson is TJ's grandmother. Tito is MJ's brother, member of Jackson 5 with Jackie, Marlon, Jermaine and Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m TJ says he goes by TJ Jackson, since his father is also Tito and people would get the two confused.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Jackson's attorney Kevin Boyle questioning him Boyle: Have you testified before? TJ: I think this is my first time, so I'm a little nervous

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Plaintiffs called next witness, Tito Jackson, also known as TJ Jackson. TJ is MJ's children cousin and co-guardian.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m A very emotional TJ Jackson broke down on the stand saying "Michael was everything." All the details of his testimony coming soon.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge Yvette Palazuelos is hearing other cases this morning, thus the delay. We'll let you know when session begins.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h TJ Jackson, the children's co-guardian and cousin, is set to testify today. He is going to describe how the kids are coping with MJ's death

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. We are waiting for today's session to begin. It is delayed.

by **MJ Mod** Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:57 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Bina asked if TJ thought MJ would've told him if he had a drug problem.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m TJ said he didn't believe MJ had a substance abuse problem, never saw him take pills.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Bina: You never personally saw substance abuse? TJ: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m "I've heard many rumors about my uncle that were not true," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m TJ testified he was familiar with Dr. Metzger. He said he had not heard of the drug Propofol before MJ died.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m "I don't remember seeing a doctor in the HIStory tour either," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Bina: Did you ever see a doctor on Dangerous tour? TJ: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Bina: Did you consider your uncle to be a private person? TJ: For the most part, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m "At the dinner, MJ seemed happy," TJ said. "I don't think he would be sad if he was sad," TJ said about MJ during the anniversary dinner.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Bina: Did you ever talk to your uncle about his finances? TJ: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m TJ reluctantly accepted the gift. Bina asked if MJ was in financial difficulties then and couldn't afford the gift. TJ said he didn't know.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Bina asked TJ about MJ's wedding gift to him, which was $30,000 in cash. "He wanted to pay for my wedding, but the wedding passed," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m The only time TJ recalled seeing his uncle in 2009 was at the anniversary dinner.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m TJ said MJ was excited that TJ was going to London. TJ said he didn't know if MJ was happy because of tour or for being around his family

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m TJ said before MJ left, he asked him if he was going to London. "I said 100% and he said ok, see you there," TJ testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m TJ: We talked primarily about the children, that I wanted more kids, talked about movies.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m "He was just happy and jolly and I was just happy to see him and the kids," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m TJ didn't remember MJ being extremely thin then, but said he wasn't concerned to check it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m "He was in a good mood," TJ recalled. "He was happy, he was talking about the kids, making jokes, that stuff."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Bina notes the anniversary happened on May 14, 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m TJ said the last time he saw MJ alive was in his grandparents anniversary, where most of the family member were there.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Bina: You didn't go to Carolwood house? TJ: Not before MJ died

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m TJ: It's tough, as long as he (Prince) understands his responsibilities and the pitfalls, it's hard to say no

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "I would say they want to build their own career, and ET is a stepping stone for his acting career," TJ said about Prince.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "I wanted to do for the art of it, I like the quiet, private life," TJ explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m 'If he really wants to do it, 100%, he should be able to do it at 16," TJ said about Prince working on a television show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Bina: As their guardian you haven't prevented them to be in the public eye TJ: It's hard to do that when he's straight A student with honors

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Paris wants to be an actress, Prince says he wants to act then become a producer, TJ explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m "I didn't release music until I was 16 or 17," TJ said. "I encourage them to be children first."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m "It was very important for him to excel in his career," TJ said about Prince.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "It's difficult, because they are 15 and 16," TJ said. "It's hard to maintain that private life."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Bina asked about children being more exposed to the media after MJ died, like going on Oprah and Prince working on Entertainment Tonight.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "It was hard for me to accept it, my grandmother insisted and a couple of months ago I began receiving it," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Bina asked if TJ draws salary for being MJ's children co-guardian.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Katherine was in court wearing a fuschia jacket. Aside from TJ, she was also accompanied by Taj Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m TJ definitely remembers seeing MJ at least once in 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Bina inquired how many times TJ saw or spoke with MJ and the children. He said he spoke with his uncle every other month.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Bina asked about Katherine's health problems last summer and if he's aware of any health problems? TJ said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did the cross examination of TJ on behalf of AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Boyle asked TJ about Paris deposition regarding Grace. Defendant's attorney objected, they went to a sidebar and lunch break.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m "She (Grace) wanted to maintain, as did my brothers and I, my uncle's child raising," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m "Once my uncle passed, they came into my grandma's house in regular society, it was hard to maintain the same lifestyle," TJ expressed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m TJ said MJ raised the kids differently. They read a lot, didn't watch tv during the week, one movie a week if they earned, TJ explained

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "I don't know specifically what happened but I think there had been conflicts between Grace and other members of the family," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m TJ: I was a little disappointed she had to. Along with my grandmother, she was the mother figure the kids had in their lives.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After MJ died, Grace Rwamba came back to work with the family, TJ explained. But he said there was a situation where Grace had to move on.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "It's impossible, I did a lot of the legwork to get Kai back," TJ testified. TJ first heard of Dr. Murray after MJ passed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Boyle asked if Chase was hired back in an effort to influence her testimony in this case. "Not a chance, it's silly," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "The kids just liked Kai, they asked for Kai, and I asked my grandmother and she was okay with it," TJ said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Boyle: Who hired Kai Chase back? TJ: It was a suggestion I made. A couple of employees were let go, as co-guardian job to replace cook/nanny

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h "Our children is supposed to outlive us, so it's been very difficult on my grandmother," TJ said.

by **MJ Mod** Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:03 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Karen Faye will resume her testimony tomorrow from a few weeks back. We hope to see you then!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Judge adjourned session early for the jury. They are ordered back tomorrow morning at 10 am PT.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Attorneys and the judge discussed extensively about things that one side wants to show the jury but the other side doesn't.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Taj said he and his brothers wrote the song "Everything" at Hayvenhurst. Judge breaks for afternoon session. Katherine wipes her eyes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Taj got married on June 16. He said he had a vase with a candle in it lit for his mother.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Taj told the jury they chose to marry at Hayvenhurst because it was the place his mom and his uncle would be.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m "I just got married," Taj said, crying. "And my mom wasn't there."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "When you lose a parent, your life is never the same again," Taj expressed. He said it hurts specially during milestones moments in his life

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "I think it's more difficult because my uncle to them was both father and mother, he was everything for them," Taj said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m "It lit him up, that's what he lived for, his kids and my grandma," Taj said. When MJ died, Taj said they stepped in right away.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Taj said having children was something they encouraged MJ, since they thought he was going to be a great father.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "My grandma was my uncle's compass in life," Taj said. "He was constantly trying to make her proud of him."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "My mom was my mentor and my mom's mentor was my grandma," Taj said. "They all shared the purity in their heart," Taj explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Chang asked Taj who was MJ's mentor: "Definitely my grandma, he would tell me that, you could see it, I sensed that," Taj responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Taj became the person in charge of MJ's storage and belongings.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Taj said MJ asked him to help raise the children. Taj said he was just about to begin your with 3T and MJ understood it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Taj said he lived at Neverland for 6 months. He said his grandma was there all the time.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Chang: Was your uncle proud of you? Taj: Yes, very proud

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Taj co-directed their last video for album brotherhood. Chang played a snippet of it, quite funny video. Some jurors were laughing.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Taj said MJ was very close with Lionel Richie. Played snippet video of 3T.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Note: Taj, I saw these and thought they were perfect for you. Love always, Uncle Doo Doo

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "I keep my most sentimental things in my safe," Taj explained about a note he has from MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "He bought me my first camera," Taj said. He shot home video of his mother and brothers while she was still alive in 1994.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Taj said he shared three things with MJ: Music, Film and the Three Stooges, which Michael loved.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Taj said his dad Tito was his mentor at baseball. He coached their little league team.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Chang: Was he your mentor? Taj: Yes, definitely

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Taj also attended Buckley School, went to Loyola Marymount college, studying Music, Film and TV. He needs to finish the last year of school.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "I was the first Jackson to go to college, he was so proud of that," Taj said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "He was constantly trying to help people," Taj said, adding there were lots of things the media didn't know about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Taj: Michael taught us that being a musician and having the influence not only to make music but to make a change in the world

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Chang played the video clip of the song.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m After Ryan White died, Taj said MJ dedicated the song "Gone Too Soon" to him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m "It was Disneyland," Taj said about Neverland. "He named the train station after my grandma, Katherine. There's a plaque with her name."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m "They had a really strong relationship," Taj said, explaining MJ took Ryan to Neverland, went into the pool with him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Ryan White became poster child for HIV/AIDS Taj said. This was during the time we were all terrified about it; Ryan was kicked out of school

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Taj said MJ would take hundreds of people from Make a Wish foundation. "He wanted to make them better, he felt that he could."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m "My uncle didn't eat candy, it was for the sick children he was bringing to Neverland," Taj explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Taj said he stayed at Neverland many times. "Neverland to me, he (MJ) always let us know, it was to help people," Taj explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m "It was known she put us first," Taj said. Dolores (DD) Jackson was Taj's mom's name.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m "My mom really looked up to my uncle, leaned on him a lot," Taj testified. "He loved the way that she raised us."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Taj said his mother and father were very much in love, but separated. "They loved each other, I never understood the problem."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m MJ helped us with school, Taj said, paid for his college. He encouraged his nephew do it for his mother, to make her proud.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m "When my mom passed, he stepped in and made sure our whole world didn't crumble," TJ said about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m "He guided our lives, he was everything," Taj said about MJ. "I feel lost some times because he's not here."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Taj said he was close to MJ. "My uncle, besides being my musical role model, he was like an older brother to us," Taj explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m "I was spoiled with love, let's just say that," Taj said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Deborah Chang did direct examination.Taj, real name Tariano Jackson, II is 39 years old. He is the first grandson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Nothing further from the attorneys, TJ he was excused. He traded places with brother Taj in audience, sat next to his grandmother.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m TJ said his grandma convinced him to accept payment because he has three kids of his own that are losing a lot of his time.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Boyle: Did you do it for four years for free? TJ: It was out of love

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m TJ said he began acting as the children's co-guardian shortly after MJ died.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Boyle: Do you think Jackson's kids should be allowed to go to the Laker games? TJ: I think they should go anywhere they want

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m TJ said they didn't go with Phillips to the Laker game, he was just there, at the game zone.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Boyle: Did you know at that time that Mr. Phillips had a secret meeting with Dr. Murray? TJ: I didn't know

by **MJ Mod** Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:02 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said they said Jackson's security confirmed MJ was seeing Dr. Klein maybe 3-4 days a week.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Because in the media, there were reports that he had gone to Dr. Klein," Faye explained. "What I asked is how often he went there."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I was kind on the lookout for doctors getting involved," Faye explained. Putnam asked why Faye inquired specifically about Dr. Klein.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I asked Michael's security if he was going to see Dr. Klein," Faye testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It wasn't the MJ at 29, but he did Billie Jean and it was MJ, everyone was really excited about that," Faye said about rehearsals in June.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she was so concerned she brought an old time MJ's cook who had a restaurant nearby to bring him food.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It's thinness was still bothering me," Faye testified. "He wasn't gaining anything, that was a concern."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I noticed some physical things that were odd," Fayed recalled. Faye said rehearsal was really, really dried and that kind of bothered her

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "In compared to how I used to know him, it was little different, I can't say it was exactly how it used to be," Fay said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye doesn't recall how many times a week she saw MJ from March to June. In the first period of rehearsals, Faye said he seemed ok.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she worked in a bedroom downstairs at the Carolwood house, never went to the second floor bedrooms.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I was researching all the adhesives available, trying to figure out ways to have my job be successful," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked Faye what she did in April and May 2009 to prepare for the tour. She said she attended productions meetings at Center Staging

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked if AEG did financial check on her if they'd find problems. Plaintiffs objected, asserting witness's privacy. Judge sustained it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she saw information about the trial on the news and internet. She worked with MJ for 27 years.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "No, there was no background check done on me," Faye said, explaining she knows the background check is one of the issued of the trial.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did they do a background check on you? Faye laughed out loud and said, you're so funny. I don't think so

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you work for Michael Jackson? Faye: He requested me, sir, he called me and asked me

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Ortega demanded Michael to take off sunglasses, they gave me orders sir, but not pertaining to make-up and hair," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I think I was giving her something to take care of all my business and pay bills, but can't recall the amount," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said one of MJ assistants would some times give her skin creams to give to MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The Propecia rejuvenated hair on men's scalp, Faye said, and she needed as much healthy hair as possible.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said Latisse and Propecia prescriptions for Michael were under her name.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Botox inhibits sweating, so Faye thought MJ could have Botox injection on his scalp and he wouldn't sweat, the wig would stay on.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It meant Michael didn't want anybody to know he wore a wig," Faye said. Faye requested the wig receipt be as discreet ad possible.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she needed probably 5 wigs, each costing $3,500. She said it was a long process to get one ready, needed reserves for emergency.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said MJ liked privacy. "When you do somebody's hair there's a lot of things involved and he didn't want people to see it," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't know where they were going to put me," she explained. "I wanted to make sure they could get to me if they needed."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she needed to be able to get to MJ, so she asked in the contract to be close to him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The process of his hair took a long time," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye: I worked for This Is It and the production of the tour

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you have an understating as to whether or not you were an employee of AEG Live?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam said the contract with between the company of her Tania's company, not Faye.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said a lot of her information came through Tania and their concerns. Tania took care of Faye's businesses affairs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "They were going to throw him in jail if he didn't get there on time," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The judge was informing MJ he had to go to court or he would be sent to jail" Faye said. So he went to court in pajamas, couldn't get ready

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h That day, Michael went to the hospital because something happened to his back and they gave him some pain killers, Faye testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye explained the day during the criminal trial MJ went to court wearing pajamas one day.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I just noticed that Michael started having a lot of back pain" Faye said. "With the symptoms of losing a lot of weight, and the pajama day"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Michael seemed to have more difficult time when Grace was brought back to Neverland," Faye said, referring to the time of criminal trial.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "As her responsibilities grew, she kind of stood in the way, it seems she always tried to keep me away from Michael," Faye said about Grace.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I really, really loved Grace when I first met her," Faye said. "I adored her, I was really happy Michael used her as the nanny."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h She testified she needed to get some funds to start working on MJ's wigs and was told to speak with Dr. Tohme.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she worked with a wig maker and they both went to Carolwood to see MJ. "Sir, we needed to prepare for the show, sir."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye: I just wanted him to make sure he knew the schedule and if he was comfortable with it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "By the conversation I had with him, he didn't seem to know the structure, only that it was 50 days," Faye said about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "That's funny, my mother said the same thing," Faye said MJ told her.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "I think he didn't know how the schedule was, he should go a look at the schedule and how he feels about it," Faye explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Faye: When I saw that there may be a problem, I did speak out, but exactly what they are talking here, I don't know

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "I had no concept of Michael's ability at this time," Faye said. "I was always protective of Michael and his well being."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Faye agreed with the concept that she did call and expressed concern, but didn't say it was dangerous and impractical.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Putnam showed Faye the calendar for the shows of "This Is It." She said she had not seeing it, what she saw was a list online.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Putnam: You didn't see MJ for 4 years and thought it was a problem? Faye: I said it could possibly be problem, I didn't say it was definite

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "He might make 1st week but it will go downhill after," Faye said. "I felt the schedule was too difficult for him to maintain"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Faye said she learned about the tour schedule online. She doesn't recall if there was a three month break.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "I was concern on how close the shows were together, sir" Faye said. She reached out to Kenny Ortega and Michael about it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye: You keep asking me things about dates, I'm trying to remember, I was trying to refresh my memory about things

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she was sick a couple of weeks ago and that's when she found the phone.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she didn't even know she still had the phone. She said she looked at the texts to remember dates, turned them to defendants today

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she found some text messages related to the period, couple of days before MJ's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "His wig was so big," Faye said, explaining that because of her work she notices people's hair and make-up.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Putnam: How did you think he looked? Faye: Oh, ok. I just thought that he had a really bad hair piece on

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she remembers seeing the media following his bus, but is not sure she saw the press conference announcement live.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Putnam: He asked you to work on the tour and you said yes? Faye: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she knows that was part of their conversation, but wasn't sure if it was part of their first conversation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h He was a little discouraged about the number of shows, Faye said. She told MJ they would have to work on his hair to get him ready to tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said MJ told her he thought it was only going to be 10 shows but when he woke up, and it was now 50.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "We kind of laughed and chuckled. It think I mentioned in that conversation I was excited for him going back on tour," Faye testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h It was a really happy and light conversation, Faye recalled. "Work with me Turkle, Work with me Turkle," Faye said MJ told her.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h "He didn't give me too much information, said MJ would call me from blocked number, make sure to pick up, it had to do with tour," Faye said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h She said she didn't think it was strange that Michael had an assistant calling her. Previously, MJ would call her directly.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she got a call from Michael Amir mid March saying he was MJ's assistant, Michael wanted her to go on the tour with him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Faye said she found out about "This is It" tour on the news. She wasn't surprised, MJ had mentioned he had projects.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Faye didn't talk to MJ when he came back into the country, heard from him every 3,4, 5 months and they were like brother and sister.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Faye said MJ never returned to Neverland after that, neither did she. She didn't see MJ in 2008 at Carolwood.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Faye on MJ: "I understood that he wanted to leave."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h "He had been thru a horrible, horrible ordeal. Whatever he had to do to recover from that, that was fine," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Putnam: Were you upset you that you had been there everyday and he didn't say good bye?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Faye got MJ ready for the criminal trial in June 2005. She didn't talk to him at the day of acquittal, he left for Bahrain.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h She didn't look at exhibits, but met with plaintiffs' counsel, Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h "I was deposed for 4 or 5 days and I talked to plaintiffs for 1 day," Faye said. She reviewed transcripts but not what she said on the stand

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Faye testified 7 weeks ago, May 10. Putnam asked her if she done anyting to prepare, like look at the transcript. She said yes, periodically

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Katherine Jackson is not in the courtroom.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h Karen Faye, MJ's hair stylist/make-up artist, is back on the stand for cross examination. AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, is questioning her

by **MJ Mod** Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:32 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Court resumes on Monday at 9:30 am PT. Jackson's attorney said he's trying to get Taj to come back.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Attorneys and judge went into sidebar. Then Faye was excused, subject to recall.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Faye said on June 18 Michael was almost catatonic, stoic, appeared scared to die.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Faye said she discussed with mortician MJ's body weight. Panish asked if he looked worse than on June 19. Faye responded: "He was dead, sir"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m "I was quite sure he was deteriorating, sir" Faye said. "I had no idea what was going on, but there was something very, very wrong."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Putnam questioned Faye for 5 days in deposition related to Lloyds of London lawsuit. There were no lawyer representing the Jacksons.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Faye said MJ was scared, paranoid, pressure on the last two weeks of his life.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m MJ went to rehearsal on June 18 but arrived late, Faye said. Ortega was very angry Michael was late to rehearsal.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Panish asked if someone has died after getting make-up. "I never even burned someone with a hot iron, sir," Faye responded.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Did you take the Hippocratic oath when you became a make-up artist? Faye: No, sir

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Were you being paid $150,000 a month? Faye: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He was burned a long time ago, had damage to his scalp," Faye said about MJ needing wig. "He had 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree burn."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Who did you negotiate your contract with? Faye: AEG Live

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye agreed with Bugzee that MJ was deteriorating in front of everyone eyes. "He was not in good physical shape on June 19," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Did you think that MJ needed some medical assistance that time? Faye: Absolutely

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Were you seeing Michael not able to sing and dance on June 16? Faye: Yes, sir

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Phillips responded: We control all the footage and it is locked at the vault at staples center

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h In an email on July 1, 2009, Faye expressed concern to Randy Phillips about footage of MJ shuffling and wrapping around in blankets

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email cont'd: Michael's OCD is getting worse. He repeats his actions and rambles words constantly.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye's email to DiLeo: Michael is painfully thin... His bones are protruding. I'm one person that has physical contact ith him very day.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked about her saying it was between the two alone, and she said her intention was for someone to help Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h No response from Frank DiLeo or anybody else, Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she was trying to get their attention to do something. "I was desperate. I wanted a therapist for Michael."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "This is between you and me alone," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo. "I am leaving this in your hands as you have instructed me to do."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't think you, Kenny or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," Faye wrote.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He hurts himself most of all," Faye wrote. Putnam asked what she meant by that and Faye said "He's dead!"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she thought there was some sort of fear with MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I thought the best pathway, he needed some psychological help," Faye explained. "I'm trying to figure out what is going on."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It seems like he is setting himself up to be the victim," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I felt desperate when I wrote this email, because I felt I wasn't being heard or acknowledged," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye added: When he asked me to do this in May and met with him. I saw a slender but strong and coherent Michael Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Another fan email forwarded on June 22 from Faye to DiLeo saying MJ was too thin.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email cont'd: I'm fearful he I'll make himself so sick be will die. If he doesn't do this show he has no where else to go...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye wrote in the email: Frank... Unfortunate she's right.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email Faye sent to Frank DiLeo was a note from a fan concerned with MJ's weight on June 20, 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you think MJ was self-sabotaging? Faye: I didn't understand what was going on

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said MJ talked about the tour seemed he was trying to convince himself to do it. "It was always like he was talking himself into it."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye testified earlier in the case that MJ didn't take no for answer. She said it had to do specifically with her work.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said the first time she heard about Propofol was after MJ died. She was surprised about it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said MJ believed in doctors and that wherever they prescribed he thought it was ok.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked if Faye and MJ knew each other well. Faye said he thought so.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye did not express any of her concerns to MJ's family remembers. Putnam: That last week, you didn't know what was going on? Faye: Right

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He would pretend everything was ok" Faye said. But she never asked MJ if he was ok since she thought he wasn't in the state of mind for it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I was voicing my opinions and what I thought and I wasn't getting too much response, sir," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she was a bit upset that no one seemed to have been listening to her back in June 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Because Michael had lost so much weight and he kept losing weight. 136 lbs was a lot for MJ," Faye explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you think it was impossible for him to weigh that much? Faye: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked Faye about the fact that Coroner's report saying MJ was 136 lbs at the time of his death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said people who didn't know MJ very well would probably not realize he lost lots of weight because of the several layers of clothes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said that in Mar/Apr she told Michael she was concerned with his weight. She never talked to him about it during last weeks of his life

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Michael wasn't very coherent that week to have a discussion like that," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Were you observing Mr. Jackson becoming thinner and thinner? Faye: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you say he lost 10-15 lbs the last week of his life? Faye: It was an estimate, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Lisa Marie Presley and I became friends and she told me MJ liked to be at 120 pounds," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you ever testify his work weight was 120 pounds? Faye: Lisa Marie Presley have me that information

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I wasn't concerned for his weight for everyday life, but I was concert for his performance weight," Faye explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He was still cold, but his spirt was better, sir," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said there was hope, though."I saw more of Michael, he was laughing, I saw him participating, yes, there was some relief."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: So you didn't think he could be ready after watching those rehearsals? Faye: No "It was a very strenuous show," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye explained MJ didn't gain any weight, there were changes that needed to be done to get him ready, perhaps if they could delay it a bit.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: You didn't think he was ready to go? Faye: Oh no

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam asked if Faye thought MJ would be ready to tour after those rehearsals. She responded "oh no, oh no!"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: How about the 24th? Faye: It was improved

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you think MJ had a good rehearsal on June 23? Faye: It was much improved, sir

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she didn't remember what she said to MJ, it was probably how are you doing, probably addressed him very casually.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h On June 23, Faye said there were lots of meetings at Staples Center with MJ. She was alone with MJ at some point in the day.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she didn't have an opportunity to talk to anybody on June 22 about MJ and she didn't want to ask the children.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said Alvarez didn't want to stay on the phone, had to go and hung up.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I made a phone call to security Alberto Alvarez on Saturday and asked him to watch MJ very closely that I was concerned," Faye testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I was very concerned during this period of time, I was very, very frightened," Faye explained. She said she had horrible thoughts.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h June 23 was the first time they were at Staples Center. Faye said she was extremely concerned with MJ's health on June 19th.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h On June 22, Faye went over to MJ's house to replace MJ's wig. She waited couple of hours and was told to leave, MJ didn't want to do it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she wasn't around Phillips a lot, so she didn't recall Phillips telling anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye: He told me he wanted to build a wall around Michael so he doesn't want to do anything but get to rehearsal

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you ever observe Randy Phillips tell anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever personally instruct you to never listen to MJ? Faye: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever personally instruct you to never listen no MJ? Faye: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever pressure you to get MJ on stage? Faye: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever pressure you to get MJ on stage? Faye: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she saw MJ down to t-shirt several times, since she had to wire MJ, put wires and battery packs on him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regarding the fitting day, where MJ wore t-shirt and shoulder piece, Faye said she was there but didn't see him when they did the fitting.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she can't recall ever having a conversation with Ortega about Dr. Klein.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I didn't know Conrad Murray at that particular point other than expressed the concern of what I think Michael needed," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Putnam: Did you express to KO any concern you had about Dr. Conrad Murray? Faye: Yes, that he wasn't a psychologist

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she had a conversation with Kenny Ortega about Dr. Murray. She never asked about Dr. Klein.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h She was concerned about Dr. Klein and aware of Dr. Murray in the week prior to MJ's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I was really getting worried about Michael's psychological state," Faye said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Faye said she expressed that concern to Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time. Faye never spoke with MJ about it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h That concerned her, Faye said. "Because of the past, when I'd see doctors get involved in Michael's life," Faye explained.

by **Admin** Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:23 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h And that ended Day 40 of the trial. We hope to see you all on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Jurors looked in the courtroom and didn't find the woman. They are ordered to report to the court if they ever see her again.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Panish: That person committed a felony, jury tampering
Judge: I agree

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 5 said this episode will not affect his decision in this case. She is probably caucasian, he said, 30-40, can't remember hair color

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 5: I walked away, paid no attention. Seemed like someone I hadn't seen before, not a reporter

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h "Please don't give anyone any money," she told the jurors. She was wearing red pants, bow or bandana on her hair, light skin.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt juror said he walked away, alt juror 1 addressed her. She said something about friends and case, he told the judge.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 5: She was staring and staring. "I know you guys are the jurors in MJ," he said she told them. "I just wanted to tell you something."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alternate 5 described what he saw:
After the break, we were by the pay phones in front of the elevator area, had not seen her before.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Judge: Does that have any impact on you?
He said he can put it aside and it will not impact his decision on the case.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Juror said he has never seeing her before, this happened at the last break in the afternoon.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h "M'am I don't want to hear you, go away, go away, bye," alt juror 1 said he told the woman. She eventually walked toward the escalator.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 1: She was standing there, not leaving, we walked away towards the hallway. She followed us, "I just want to say don't award money"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 1 responded that she shouldn't be talking to them. The woman told him she knows the truth. He told her seriously you need 2 stop talking

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 1 cont'd: He said she told him she just wanted to say something: "I just want to tell you not to award those people any money"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 1 cont'd:
Seemed she wanted to listen to whatever she could hear. Stood there for a while, alone. I told alt 5 she's trying to hear us.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Alt 1:
Me and alt 5 standing by water fountain, there was a woman in red pants, white shirt, standing by restroom by the escalators.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Judge asked Alternates 1 and 5 to explain what had happened.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17h Outside the presence of the jury, court assistant told judge a woman wearing red pants approached two alternate jurors in the hallway.

by **MJ Mod** Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:01 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Court is now in recess for lunch. Testimony should resume within one hour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h To get a credit report, you have to have the individual's consent, Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Moreover, Dr. Murray would be providing medical care to MJ, and AEG should've checked him out, the expert opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said Dr. Murray was going to be in MJ's house, would have exposure to confidential information, so he needed to be checked out.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h MJ was just a referral of Dr. Murray, Seawright said, and AEG should've done further investigations on him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to Dr. Murray, Seawright said AEG should have done, at minimum, a credit check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h She said credit checks are inexpensive, cost between $5-8 and takes about 5 minutes to get the report.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright explained the problem is not the debt at all, it's the fact you are in default of the debt, that you haven't met your obligations.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The expert explained the credit check is used to determine whether or not the person met all his/her obligations, if there had any default.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "The email is a recognition by Mr. Phillips to hire someone who doesn't need the gig," Seawright opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h No matter what business you are, you need to follow HR protocols, Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said entertainment companies are not different from others, HR is practice across businesses lines to find fit, competent workers

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h She said Phillips acknowledged what the criteria was, that they needed someone ethical and unbiased.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright talked about Phillips' email where he said Dr. Murray was extremely successful and didn't need the gig.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Did you see anything that qualified Dr. Murray as extremely successful? Seawright: I saw nothing that was done to determine that

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "You can't just always take people's word" Seawright explained, saying that until you check their credentials you don't know if they are fit

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I did not see any evidence in my review of documents and testimony," Seawright said about AEG checking Dr. Murray's medical license.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright opined that just including in the contract that Dr. Murray needed to be licensed is not sufficient to determine his competency.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said background checking minimizes the risk of hiring someone.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Could independent contractors cause the same damage as employees? Seawright: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said the label of the employee doesn't change the fact that the company is responsible for the hiring of fit and competent person

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright went through all the procedures AEG has in place to hire independent contractors and said most of their process only protects AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The expert said that looking at someone's professional license is not enough to qualify a potential worker.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said there are risks involving employees who are not necessarily dealing with money.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish showed a chart of AEG's process to check out people, which separates employees from independent contractors.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h She said she saw no evidence of AEG conducting checks on Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Had that happened, Dr. Murray would not be able to continue to work, he was in a conflict of interest," Seawright continued.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Dr. Murray was in position of administering medical care but was paid by company that had the ability to stop the tour," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I'd recommend criminal background check, credit and motor vehicle check and a social security verification on Dr. Murray," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright: The organization knows the potential to harm the artist, they have information about the parties, which would elevate the risk.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Yes indeed, it would elevate the risk even higher," Seawright answered.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish asked assuming Paul Gongaware knew MJ had prescription drug issues, would that knowledge be critical in hiring a doctor for MJ?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright explained smart hiring process, which can minimize the risks and hire a competent and fit employee.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Depending on the reports, the cost can be as low as $5, background check from $10-15, $25 with other fees, Seawright testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h She said that knowing the background of workers diminish the risks of the hiring.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "It's important to understand what the history of what an individual is before hiring them," Seawright explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "You can't manage what you don't know," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h "The same risks exist, regardless of the label," Seawright explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright said she doesn't differentiate independent contractors and company employees, since it's just a classification/label of a worker.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h She said her goal is to hire workers who are fit for the position and who are not going to put themselves or others at risk.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright has never works in the music or show producing industry, but said that she's qualified to testify since HR principles are the same

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h She charges $300/hour and has works a little over 100 hours in this case, Seawright testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright has testified in approximately 16 cases. Being an expert witness composes about 10% of her company's revenue.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright said there are several types of background check, including driving, criminal, credit and social security check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright has BS in Chemistry, has consulted in the field of HR for 25 years, advising owners and managers of human resources practices.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h She has clients in various line of businesses: pest control, law firms, restaurants, car dealerships, hospitals, etc.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Seawright said human resources relates to the people and the workers in a business.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h She has her own company, helps clients find, hire, train, compensate, terminate workers; basically the entire life cycle of an employment.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Jackson's attorney, Brian Panish, is questioning Jean Seawright, a Human Resources consultant.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 41 of Jackson family vs AEG trial underway. Plaintiffs called a new witness on the stand.

by **Admin** Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:29 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We hope to see you tomorrow for day 42 of trial. Check all the latest on @ABC7 and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The plan is to have Taj Jackson back on Wednesday. There's no trial on Thursday and Friday due to the holiday.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Sidney Schnoll, addiction specialist, is also scheduled for tomorrow. He will talk about MJ's prescription drug dependency

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge adjourned court for the day. Jurors ordered back tomorrow at 10:00 am PT. Seawright to be on the stand again.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright said she saw contradicting testimony, several well-qualified people reviewed the contract and it wasn't changed in final version.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Regarding Dr. Murray's contract "4.1 Perform the Services reasonably by Producer" Bina said it was an error and Producer should read Artist.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "There was no need to," Seawright said, explaining the fact that Dr. Murray failed the credit history was sufficient to deny him employment

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright said that once she checked Dr. Murray's credit check it made him ineligible for employment, thus she didn't investigate further.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina: Dr. Murray had a medical license, right?
Seawright: My understanding, yes

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina resumed cross examination, jury back in the courtroom.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h End: and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Cont'd: Facts & materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by witness or other rule of evidence

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Cont'd: that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Cont'd: allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Here's the definition of judicial notice. Let us know if you think judge made mistake: Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge wants to make sure they get to the bottom of it, whether it is admissible or not, before instructing the jury one way or another.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge: if it turns out judicial notice was improper but admissible in other ground, it may be difficult to explain to the jury.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "You, improperly, took judicial notice over my objection and I'm requesting to admonish the jury now," Panish requested Judge Palazuelos.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I do not believe there's any error in showing this document to the jury," Bina said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina argued she thinks it's clearly admissible, doesn't think it's appropriate to instruct jury now.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish said it's misleading, inappropriate, should not be presented to the jury and it's unduly prejudicial to the plaintiffs.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish said the document is not a rule, regulation or policy and asked judge to admonish the jury to disregard it.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Doc ends: information is essential to the particular job in question.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Doc cont'd: because they tend to impact more adversely on minorities and females. Exceptions exist if the employer can show that such

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Doc cont'd: house, length of residence at an address, charge accounts, furniture ownership, or bank accounts generally should be avoided

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Doc cont'd: credit rating, including bankruptcy or garnishment, refusal or cancellation of bonding, car ownership, rental or ownership of a

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Document Pre-Employment Inquiries and Credit Rating or Economic Status: Inquiry into an applicant's current or past assets, liabilities, or

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Here's the text of the policy. Let us know what you think it says: is it prohibited, based on this policy, to conduct credit check?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It doesn't exactly say what you said," judge told Bina.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge read the document and noted it says "generally should be avoided", and it doesn't says it is prohibited.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "The court should not allow that, plaintiff has been prejudiced by the misconduct of defendants' counsel," Panish told the judge.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: That was complete error for it to be shown, it should be stricken and jury should be admonished. It was also judicial error as well

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina claimed the document, printed out of the website, is a policy and judge should be able to take judicial notice. She will look further.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge Yvette Palazuelos: is this is a regulation, rule, statute I can take judicial notice?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge offered to take judicial notice of the document, but Panish said judge couldn't legally do it.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jackson's atty Brian Panish argued vehemently that there was no foundation as to the date of the document and if it was in effect in 2009

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina showed an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) policy on credit check, saying it is a discriminatory practice.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Outside the presence of the jury, there was a heated discussion about a document AEG showed to the jury.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h A company can be accused of discrimination if the criteria involved in the hiring uses discriminatory practices, Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina gave hypotheticals to explain independent contractor.
Most common background checks are criminal and reference checks, Seawright said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Some jurors had their eyes closed at this point. It was very dry testimony, some audience members were sleeping.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright: It's important to be able to identify the best way to hire a worker, minimize the risk, determine if they are fit and competent

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The expert said there's no precise definition for independent contractor; there may be characteristics, but not a definition.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The expert said this is the 1st case where a person's credit history is major issue. The other cases involved criminal history and behavior

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright said she never ran her doctors' background. She has not worked with concert promoters or the music industry.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright said she has no idea if plaintiffs checked her background, but that she did not sign a release to check her credit.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright Associates has four employees currently.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge told the jurors that ultimately they are the ones who are going to decide who hired Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Seawright said she did not analyze the info assuming Michael Jackson hired Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina asked if all the opinions Seawright offered are based on the assumption that AEG, not MJ, hired Dr. Murray. She said yes.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did cross examination.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Do you know any special rules that apply to AEG Live?
Seawright: No
Nothing further from plaintiff.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Seawright said AEG could've run Dr. Murray's background and would've gotten the same information Det. Martinez received.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Dr. Murray had three different social security numbers in his credit report, according to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Being in debt is just having debt," Seawright explained. "But default is not paying the debts."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Could AEG have done a background check on Dr. Murray?
Seawright: There's no question they could've done that, if they wanted to

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Another part of the survey related to employees working at people's homes, in which 30% employers conduct credit checks, Seawright testified

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h During deposition, AEG's attorney Jessica Bina showed study where out of 158 employers 3 % indicated they did credit check in healthcare.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The expert analyzed an email from outside counsel Kathy Jorrie to Phillips recommending background check on Dr. Tohme.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Katherine Jackson is not present in court today.
After lunch, Seawright resumed her testimony.

by **MJ Mod** Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:24 pm

~ Update by MJ Mod 7/2/2013 ~

Due to the enormous amount of time that is spent by both Admin and myself working on the court transcripts, WeAreTheWorld. will now be taking over both the ABC tweets and the Anthony McCartney tweets.

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:54 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m For complete coverage, watch @abc and go to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . We hope to see you all tomorrow!

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Judge then adjourned session until tomorrow. Jury ordered back at 10 am PT. Dr. Schnoll supposed to last all day, attorneys said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Usually doctor look at 0-10 pain scale, you then adjust the amount of the drug to give them what's enough to treat their pain.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m To determine if a patient is dependent or addicted, Dr. Schnoll said it is necessary to look at that person's behavior while using the drug.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Dr. Schnoll said there's a difference between being addicted and dependent on drugs. Dependents look for drugs, addicts want to get high

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Dr. Schnoll: One person exhibits addicted behavior in relation to the drug, the other is seeking the drug to treat underlying condition

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Primary factor is usually genetics, Dr. Schnoll said about addicts.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Dr. Schnoll: Addiction is a chronic disease that's characterized by craving, compulsive use of a drug, continued despite evidence of harm

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Koskoff: Can withdrawal from drugs sometimes be difficult, even for non-drug dependents?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m If the patient is properly prescribed and monitored, Dr. Schnoll said they can have normal life.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Koskoff: Can people who are taking proper treatment become drug dependent?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Dr. Schnoll: When you take certain drugs and suddenly stop you go into withdrawal syndrome, which is usually the opposite effect of the drug

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Tolerance is when there's a need to take more of the drug for it to take effect, Dr. Schnoll explained.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "You take it continuously and suddenly stop it, you go into withdrawal" Dr. Schnoll said. "If you continue to take it you develop tolerance"

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Dr. Schnoll: Drug dependence is the pharmacological affect of the drug.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr. Schnoll reviewed medical records, depositions and transcripts in this case. He was also deposed.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m "Addiction Medicine is the study of the problems of addiction," Dr. Schnoll said. "It is a very broad area."

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr. Schnoll resides in Connecticut, born in New Jersey. He graduated in medical school on 1967. He described his extensive background.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Seawright was excused.
Plaintiffs call next witness, Dr. Sidney Schnoll. Michael Koskoff, attorney for Jackson's, doing direct examination.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Seawright said AEG did not do any check on Dr Murray.
Panish: In your opinion, AEG acted inappropriately for not doing that?
Seawright: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Panish asked if Seawright would recommend background check for a high-risk, safety-sensitive job?
Seawright: I do

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m "Financial distress can impact their ability to make ethical decision, that's the reason that EEOC does it," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m RE-RE-DIRECT
Panish: Was EEOC checking credit of people?
Seawright: My understanding they were

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Bina in re-cross asked if Seawright was aware legislators expressed concern in 09 of unduly use of credit checks. She said she was not aware

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m "If they insisted, I would've recommended a comprehensive vetting process, with credit and background check," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Seawright: I would've said absolutely no, because of the risks associated with the position and the potential for conflict of interest

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Panish asked if AEG Live were Seawright's client in 2009 and said they wanted to hire Dr. Murray what she would've said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Seawright said that Dr. Murray asking for $5 million initially raised questions in her mind why he would be requesting that much.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Judge: That's because it is your duty, iyour responsibility to say whether Dr Murray was hired. It's not up to the experts to determine that

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "I believe AEG Live hired Dr. Murray," Seawright said. Defendant's attorney objected to the response and judge sustained it.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Seawright responded she would not rely on that survey to determine the necessity of credit checks in the healthcare field.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Panish asked if Seawright could rely in a survey conducted with small percentage of businesses to determine if credit check should be done.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m "I've never heard that at all in all the documents I read," Seawright responded.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Panish asked if Seawright saw anywhere in this case AEG saying they didn't conduct credit check on Murray because it could be discrimination

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m "The debt is not an issue at all, it's the delinquent debt they are concerned about," Seawright said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Multiple branches of our government do credit checks on employees to make sure they are not at risk for unethical decisions, Seawright said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Seawright: They check the credit because they are very concerned that financial stress can compromise people's ethical judgment and behavior

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Panish asked Seawright what her understanding is why employers check credit of potential employees.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Panish asked in re-direct about EEOC policy again. He said Bina brought it up improperly in front of the jury. Judge sustained objection.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m "It was called final," Seawright said about Dr. Murray's agreement.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m *Fully insured - Seawright said yes
*Indemnification Provision- Seawright said yes
*Obligation laid out in the contract - Seawright said yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m AEG's practice for Independent Contractors:
*Known to the artist - Seawright said yes
*Required licenses or permits - Seawright said yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Seawright and Bina went through the check list for independent contractors hired by AEG.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Bina: Do you see anything in the policy for hiring Independent contractors that AEG didn't follow with Dr. Murray?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Seawright said it protects the company, it protects AEG.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Bina argued that if the company is taking responsibility for Dr. Murray's conduct, with indemnification, it offers protection.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m "Indemnification provision in a contract is not checking out a worker," Seawright testified.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Bina: Would the company be exposing itself to risk if you do background check?
Seawright: Not necessarily

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Employers have the right to conduct background check, Seawright said. But she noted their practices cannot be discriminatory.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m The expert said she read about Gongaware's knowledge of MJ's drug use in his deposition and Dr. Finkelstein also mentioned it.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Seawright said the risk was elevated since Paul Gongaware was aware of MJ's past use of drugs and alcohol during tours.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m She explained Dr. Murray would be working at MJ's home, in and around his family, with access to confidential information.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Seawright considered Dr. Murray's position to be high-risk and safety-sensitive.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "For every job, you have to evaluate all of the risks associated with it," Seawright said. There are risks in every employment.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "When hiring someone, we have to look at the potential harm to him/herself, to others, to customers," Seawright explained.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Katherine Jackson also present in court for afternoon's session.
Bina inquired Seawright about expert opinions she issued in other cases.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Bina inquired Seawright extensively about several surveys that she relied upon while writing opinions in other cases.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Seawright: The label doesn't make a difference

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Bina: Is it ever appropriate to have some policies for employees and others for independent contractors?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Bina asked if it's ever appropriate to have different processes for different positions. Seawright said it depends on different risk factors

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Seawright: I can't give an answer without evaluating the circumstances

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Bina: Lets say MJ had engaged Dr. Murray for 3 years and was going to continue. At that point, would MJ have to do background check?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m If time has passed since you last hired someone, Seawright said you need to go back and check again, it's a rehiring; whole new period.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Seawright said you might have some historical knowledge of how the person performed but need to see if there were problems.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Bina: If a contractor had been with hundreds of tours would that person have to be background checked?
Seawright: It depends on the position

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Bina: Does that fact that MJ had a long term relationship with Dr. Murray weigh in your analysis at all?
Seawright: No, there's no bearing

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Seawright explained his responsibility was Mr. Jackson's health during the tour.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Dr. Murray wasn't being placed in charge of AEG business, Bina argued, saying he was in charge of the artist.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Bina asked why background checks are necessary. Seawright said it was because you are putting customers at risk.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Seawright said that, based on Dr. Murray's credit history, he was 180 days behind in his mortgage.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Seawright explained she examined his financial history only, and once he failed that she didn't see need to go any further.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Bina asked if Seawright knows Dr. Murray's history of treating patients, and he had no record of harming patients.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Bina: Are there studies that show relationship between debt and malpractice?
Seawright: Not that I am aware of

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Bina: Are there studies that show relationship between debt and manslaughter?
Seawright: Not that I am aware of

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Seawright explained that Title 7 says that an employer cannot discriminate.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Bina asked if Seawright was familiar with that EEOC guideline. She said yes, it provides guidance.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Judge said the document had not been admitted into evidence. Jurors nodded, indicating they understood the explanation.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Judge told jurors that yesterday there were references made to an EEOC document. It was not a regulation, but rather a guide.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Seawright took the witness stand at 11:04 am PT, jury seated immediately after that.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Judge told the attorneys to put their heads together and she will read an explanation to the jury.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Panish: Trell never mentioned an EEOC concern. This is not a law or regulation. The document wasn’t raised in deposition with Seawright.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Bina said she plans to say credit checks are controversial, must be job related. Companies might use care in using credit checks.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m "You yourself were misled, your honor, over my objections," Panish said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Panish raised his voice, said AEG never claimed this (credit check may be discrimination,) it has never been raised before.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Bina said it was DMV photos that were assessed in that case, not EEOC policy that failed in that case.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m It is a guideline that has been revoked in a court case, Panish told the judge.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Panish said EEOC guidelines are not controlling law. "This is not a law. If the court is confused, the jury is going to be confused."

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Panish: She says “it is a law," it is an official policy. It is not an official policy. It is a guideline at the most.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Panish: They don’t consider credit checks to be a prohibited practice at all. This is a lawyer making misleading statements, hearsay.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Outside presence of the jury, attys/judge discussed the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) document shown to jurors yesterday.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m HR consultant Jean Seawright resumed testimony. Katherine Jackson is present in court wearing long white jacket with green oval spots on it.

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:56 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29s Dr. Schnoll: If his underlying medical condition, pain, insomnia, had been appropriately treated, he may have been able to get off the drugs

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Koskoff asked if MJ were under the care of a competent doctor, would he have been able to get off the drugs, Demerol and benzodiazepines.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m "They pass catheters and look at hearts, which is totally unrelated to pain," Dr. Schnoll said about cardiologists.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Dr. Schnoll: Dr. Murray was an interventionist cardiologist and that is a highly specialized field. He had no background in treating pain.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's pain problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's drug dependency issues?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's pain?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m The hospital computer overloaded with people trying to get information on what happened with Sinatra, Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Dr. Schnoll said once Frank Sinatra went to the hospital he worked after collapsing on the stage.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Sometimes prescription is given under other people's names, Dr. Schnoll said, since celebrities often don't want people prying their records

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m "If you are dependent, you could have some insomnia if you go off of it," Dr. Schnoll testified.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: What does Demerol do to sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: When you are taking it, it could make you sleepy

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m He also said this drug would not have had effect on MJ on June 25.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Dr. School said there was no trace of the drug in MJ's body at the time of his death.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m The very last Demerol injection MJ received from Dr. Klein was on June 22, 100 mg dose, according to the records, Dr. Schnoll testified.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Koskoff: Is there a record MJ was getting Demerol from any other doctor?
Dr. Schnoll: No

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Dose went up in January 2009. Dr Schnoll said if a person was previously dependent on Demerol, stops and then resumes, tolerance is built up

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Dr. Schnoll talked about Dr. Klein giving MJ 100mg doses of Demerol in 2008. He said from mid-year to December it was the same amount.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Dr. Schnoll said Propofol is not appropriate to treat insomnia, even if MJ suggested it.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Koskoff asked if there was any evidence MJ was addicted or dependent of Propofol up until Dr. Murray. Dr. Schnoll said no.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31s Dr. Murray used Propofol for sleep, which Dr. Schnoll said was inappropriate. "Plus, he was not an anesthetic or an anesthesiologist."

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m The drug was used for dental procedures and cosmetic treatment, Dr. Schnoll said, adding it was appropriate for that.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts now Between 1994 and 1996, Dr. Schnoll saw no evidence of any use of Propofol by MJ under any circumstance.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37s Koskoff: What kind of specialist was on that tour for Michael?
Dr. Schnoll: He was anesthesiologist

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Dr. Schnoll testified Debbie Rowe said yes, but she wasn't sure if it was Propofol or Fentanyl. He didn't think Rowe was a licensed nurse.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Koskoff showed a timeline and asked if there was any record MJ received Propofol during the Dangerous tour in 1994.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Propofol is the most popular anesthetic in the world, Dr. Schnoll said. Propofol is the generic term.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Dr. Schnoll said after the Propofol infusion stops, the effect wears off quickly.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m "Typically, they steal it from operating room or critical care unit or inject it in a home, or a bathroom," Dr. Schnoll explained.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Dr. Schnoll treated patients addicted to Propofol. They were health technicians and none had it administered by another person.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Koskoff: Did he use it for sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
K: Is that appropriate?
Dr: Yes
K: Did MJ have a sleep problem?
Dr: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Dr. Schnoll said MJ was prescribed Midazolam and Versed which is commonly for short term surgical procedures, dental procedures.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Koskoff: Was there a time MJ did take benzodiazepines?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Dr. Schnoll: I don’t know if MJ was an addict. I haven’t seen the information that would allow me to make a diagnosis of addiction

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Koskoff: On Dangerous tour, was MJ getting opioid drugs according to Dr. Finkelstein?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Dr. Schnoll talked about the surgery MJ to repair damage to his scalp.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m The expert said he saw evidence MJ was afraid of needles; didn't take medications in excess of what was prescribed by doctors.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Dr. Schnoll said he saw no evidence that MJ ever used recreational drug or self-injected in the absence of a doctor.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Koskoff: Do you agree with that opinion?
Dr. Schnoll: No

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Koskoff asked if Dr. Schnoll read testimony from Dr. Earley saying MJ was a drug addict and that he was going to die early.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Koskoff asked if that was consistent with a drug addict. Dr. Schnoll answered no.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Koskoff said based on the medical records in the last 16 years of MJ’s life, he was Demerol free for 13 1/2 years.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m The patch was done for treatment of Demerol dependency in early 2000s. The drug would block the effect of the opioid, Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Dr. Schnoll said he reviewed medical records that Dr. Farshian implanted a patch into MJ's abdomen.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Koskoff: Was there a period of time when MJ used Demerol for scalp treatments?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Koskoff: Any evidence from any witness that MJ used Demerol outside the medical setting?
Dr. Schnoll: No

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m “Opioids are most popular because they work," Dr. Schnoll said. "Pain is the most common complaint that comes to a doctor's office.”

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr. Schnoll explained pain threshold is the level at which someone feels discomfort. They are quite variable, he said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr. Schnoll: The figures indicate 10 to 12% become addicted, the same percentage of people who become addicted to alcohol.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Some patients become addicted, Dr. Schnoll said. But it's not s large percentage.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Dr. Schnoll: if they're on long term opioid treatment, they'll become dependent. Opioids are the most commonly prescribed drugs in the US.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Koskoff: If a person is being treated, as part of good medical practice, can someone become drug dependent?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Dr. Schnoll said addiction can also be treated by competent and fit physicians.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Koskoff: Any famous people who have been opioid dependent?
Dr. Schnoll: President John F. Kennedy (Judge asks why?) Back pain.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m If a person has underlying condition and take opioid they could function better, Dr Schnoll explained. There's no harm in doing it medically

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Koskoff: What if a person has chronic osteoarthritis?
Dr. Schnoll: May have remain on medication all his life

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Dr. Schnoll said the most important factor in determining if the person should go off the drug is to find out what the underlying problem is

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Methodone is an opioid drug used for pain and treatment of opioid addiction. Dr. Schnoll explained how the drug works.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Koskoff asked if you take someone off Demorol suddenly what happens. Dr. Schnoll: “like falling off a cliff, you don’t want that to happen.”

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Katherine Jackson was present in court wearing a long periwinkle jacket and pearl earrings.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Addiction specialist Dr. Sidney Schnoll resumed testimony. Jackson's attorney Michael Koskoff did direct examination.

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:59 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Dr. Schnoll said some of the patients might have been addicted to Propofol, but others were just abusing it.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Dr. Schnoll said he has treated tens of thousands of patients and only 5-6 were addicted to Propofol. These people were in the medical field

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m The doctor agreed that some lay people could identify the symptoms as flu.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Dr. Schnoll said most doctors would be able to put all the symptoms together and conclude it is opioid withdrawal.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Some of opioids withdrawal include chills, running nose, tearing of the eyes, dilated pupil, goose bumps.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m The expert said people would recognize there was something wrong with MJ, but may not be able to recognize it as withdrawal from opioids.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Dr. Schnoll said people get confused as to whether the patient is addicted or dependent of drugs.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Cahan: There has got to be some amount of trust between doctor and patient?
Dr. Schnoll: Right

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Dr. Schnoll: Well, of they came to me to treat addiction, they usually would come because they wanted to treat their addiction

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Cahan: Did some patients did not want to get treatment?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Cahan: When you are evaluating a patient you rely on the patient being honest with you, correct?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Dr. Schnoll did not offer opinion whether the amount or type of drug MJ was taking for cosmetic and dental work was appropriate.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "There was no evidence of addiction at that time," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ in 2009.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Dr. Schnoll said he last prescribed Demerol in the late 1970s. He stopped treating patients in 2001.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Dr. Schnoll: Probably not at all at this point, pain specialist would not keep Demerol handy

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Dr. Schnoll said use of Demerol for pain went into question in the '90s.
Cahan: How common is for pain specialists to have Demerol handy?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Dr Schnoll said Demerol is not commonly used anymore because it has other effects than just opioids, considered a dirty drug the doctor said

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Dr. Schnoll responded he didn't know, since he doesn't do these procedures.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Cahan asked if it's common practice to use Demerol for Botox injections and facial fillers treatment.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Just the fact that Dr. Klein injected MJ with Demerol doesn't raise concern of a relapse of Demerol dependency, Dr. Schnoll.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Dr. Schnoll: If they have a severe pain problem that can only be treated by opioids, it is appropriate to give it.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m A professional doctor knows the difference between addiction and pseudoaddiction.
(nurse juror nodding in agreement)

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Pseudoaddiction is when a patient is undertreated for pain, Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Dr. Schnoll said doctor shopping is going from doctor to doctor to receive medication.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m There were weeks he put in 7-8 hours, some didn't do anything. He said it would be hard to estimate, spoke with plaintiff atty 10-15 times

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Dr. Schnoll said he has no idea how many hours he has worked in this case. He was retained back in January.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Cahan said Pinney Associates is charging $790/hour for Dr. Schnoll's time.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Dr. Schnoll works for Pinney Associates, he's a salaried employee and receives bonus at the end of the year, should there be one.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Cahan: You were never hired as a doctor to accompany a band on tour?
Dr. Schnoll: That's correct

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "I knew most of them and I knew them well," Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Cahan asked if Dr Schnoll brought medical students to help him out. He said yes. She asked if he did background or credit checks on them

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Dr. Schnoll said he acted ethically at that job. He worked at rock concerts in the '70s.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Cahan: Did you think that created a conflict of interest?
Dr. Schnoll: As long as I acted ethically, I did not

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Dr. Schnoll said his primary duty was to treat concert goers. He was paid by the promoters.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Dr. Schnoll said at times he was asked to treat performers, was hired to provide medical treatment at the facility to fans or artists.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m I know some people who worked at concerts, Dr. Schnoll said. He has been one.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Cahan: Do you think it's ethical for doctors to go on tour?
Dr. Schnoll: It depends on what they do when they go on tour with them

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Dr. Schnoll created the term "Rock Doc", referring to doctors who work on rock n roll concerts.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Koskoff finished direct examination. AEG attorney Kathryn Cahan did cross examination of Dr. Schnoll.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Dr. Schnoll said he's reading Richards' book, but hasn't finished yet. Defendant's objected to the doctor talking about it based on hearsay.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Keith Richards and The Rolling Stones have been performing for 50 years. Richards writes in his autobiography about his drug addiction.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m If MJ got proper treatment, he would have like normal life expectancy, Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Drug addicts can die early due to overdose; infections are very common, like HIV, Dr. Schnoll said.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Dr. Schnoll: If appropriately treated, it would have no affect

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Koskoff: Assuming he was not addicted, but had periods of drug dependency, would that have an impact on his life expectancy?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Dr. Schnoll agreed MJ had the means to get proper drug dependency treatment.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Koskoff: Based on Mr. Jackson's family, do you know if any members of his family were addicted?
Dr. Schnoll: I have no indication of that

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Dr. Schnoll: Some of the best outcomes in treatment are with people who have a lot to lose if they continue their addiction.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "The autopsy said he was in really, very good condition," Dr. Schnoll told the jury about MJ.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Having a supportive family and environment is critical in overcoming addiction, Dr. Schnoll explained.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Dr. Schnoll: He could've been treated, he could've been treated if he had the proper people

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Koskoff: Let's assume MJ really was addicted to Demerol in 2009, do you have an opinion as to his prognosis for successful treatment?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Koskoff: Assuming MJ was dependent, do you think proper treatment would be able to eliminate his dependency?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Dr. Schnoll said if MJ were treated appropriately for pain and sleeping problems, it would not have an effect in shortening his life.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Dr. Schnoll: Should MJ have someone knowledgeable for treatment of pain, he could've been treated appropriately

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Dr. Schnoll testified MJ had two major problems: pain and insomnia.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m "He would've been able to continue to perform if he was appropriately treated for the underlying medical conditions," Dr. Schnoll said.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:39 am

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ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m That concluded Day 43 of testimony, Week 10. We hope to see you all back on Monday. Happy 4th of July everybody!

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Panish told the judge he's now estimating to finish his case in chief another week or so after the July 8th week, his last estimate.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Jury ordered to return on Monday at 10 am PT. Plaintiffs will play Dr Finkelstein's deposition. Kenny Ortega set to testify in the afternoon

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Koskoff: And Dr. Murray gave it to him?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
Dr. Schnoll was then excused and session adjourned. No court tomorrow or Friday.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Koskoff noted that MJ replied it would be safe if done under the supervision of a doctor.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Dr. Schnoll said Lee responded that MJ was taking chances.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Cahan in re-cross: What did nurse Cherilyn Lee said to MJ when he was looking for a doctor to give him Propofol?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Koskoff asked in re-direct if Propofol was given for the drug or underlying condition. Dr. Schnoll said MJ asked Propofol to help him sleep.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "They were not symptoms of Demerol withdrawal, but probably of Propofol," Dr. Schnoll testified about MJ's symptoms in June 2009.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Dr. Schnoll said he looked at the totality of the picture, like a puzzle, trying to put everything together to understand what was going on.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Dr. Schnoll said he saw a concern one time of MJ going to Santa Ynez Cottage Hospital for excessive use of Demerol.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll reviewed testimony that MJ had boxes of Propofol at Neverland and asked a doctor to inject him. He said yes.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Cahan asked about MJ's family failed interventions. He said he doesn't know if they were appropriately done; practice not used as much.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Dr. Schnoll: MJ could've been off the drugs or taking the drugs in appropriate dosages if properly treated

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Dr. Schnoll said he didn't have 100% success rate in his practice and that no one does.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m "That's why your job is to motivate them and help them see the problems with the dependency," Dr. Schnoll responded.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Cahan asked about patients who think they have their addiction under control and don't want to quit the drug.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m He doesn't think the symptoms MJ was having on June 19, 2009 were related to Demerol withdrawal.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Dr. Schnoll: It was very hard for me to say he was dependent that time.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m "It didn't coincide with when I expected that withdrawal to occur," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m "Was he really dependent?" Dr. Schnoll asked himself. He said the appearance of withdrawal from Demerol usually shows within 24-36 hours.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Dr. Schnoll said he asked for a chart to be made to be able to see how much Demerol MJ was getting and how frequent.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m The expert said that if the withdrawal symptoms were present, someone might have asked why MJ had the flu.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Dr. Schnoll said he would probably give her initial dose of 50 mg.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Cahan asked what would happen if doctor gave her 375 mg of Demerol. "For you? You'd probably sleep for a while, about several hours" he said

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m In April 2009, MJ received 375 mg of Demerol, the highest amount given by Dr. Klein.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Dr. Schnoll said he doesn't think MJ was dependent on Demerol in January of 2009.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Dr. Schnoll said he could not opine whether the treatment after the burn on MJ's scalp was appropriate.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m He's also not absolutely sure, but says MJ was probably dependent on Demerol in 1993.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m He said he continued to investigate the case, looked at more records, and is now uncertain.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m However, Dr. Schnoll says today he's not sure MJ was dependent on Demerol in 2009.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll testified in his deposition that MJ was dependent on Demerol? He answered yes, the time around the Dangerous tour

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Cahan: Is it legal to write prescription to someone under another name?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes, it's illegal
C: Have you ever done it?
Dr: No

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Dr. Schnoll said you try to look at the whole picture of what was going on and not look at the possibilities, but probablilities.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Dr. Schnoll: I don't like to work under possibilities, since everything under the sun is possible. I like working with probablilities

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Cahan: Could MJ have opiates in pill forms in 2009 from doctors while having Demerol injections from Dr. Klein?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Cahan: Did Dr. Klein write prescriptions to Mr. Jackson under other names?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Cahan: Are you aware of Dr. Klein being investigated...
Panish stopped and objected as improper. He asked for a sidebar.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Cahan asked if MJ was seeing other doctors at the same time he saw Dr. Murray, like Dr. Klein. Dr. Schnoll said yes.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Cahan resumed questioning Dr. Schnoll. Katherine left for the day.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Instruction cont'd: she believed they, AEG, hired Dr Murray. That violated a court order, the statement is stricken, shouldn't be considered

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Jurors brought in at 3:27 pm PT. Judge read them the following instruction: Yesterday, plaintiiff's expert Jean Seawright said

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Judge admonished Panish to tell all experts to abide by her motions in limine.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Judge: I don't know why you are pointing your fingers that way, Mr. Panish (to AEG's side). I really don't.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Putnam said he agreed with the judge and agrees the instruction should be given as written.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Panish: She said it, I wish she hadn't, I don't want a mistrial

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Judge: There are bright lines Mr. Panish and you don't even go near it because you may cross it accidentally

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Judge: I don't want a mistrial, it's a waste of resources
Panish: I don't want a mistrial either

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Judge: Every expert is only to make assumptions about hiring. I specifically did that (ruling) for a reason. Advise them about my order!

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Apologies, reached the limit of tweets again.... Here's the remaining of today's testimony.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge: I don't want this kind of problem that can lead to mistrial. I'm asking you to speak with all your experts

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h An upset judge said:
This is my concern, we are 9 weeks in this trial and it's getting into mistrial territory. I don't want to go there!

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Judge: there's a ruling prohibiting any testimony, by any expert, on the issue!

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Panish: I know you're upset, I can tell that
Judge: I'm not upset, I think it's entirely appropriate
Panish: I told her not to do it

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Judge: This is your crucial, central issue in the case Mr. Panish. I'm surprised you had no discussion with her about it

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Judge said that violated the motion in limine regarding this issue. Experts are NOT to give their opinion on whether AEG hired Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4h Outside the presence of the jury, judge discussed with the attorneys about Jean Seawright's testifying yesterday that AEG hired Dr. Murray.

by **Admin** Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:48 pm

Reminder: No court today. Back on Monday.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:21 pm

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Dr. Finkelstein said he wanted to detox MJ in Switzerland and go on tour.

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Dr. Finkelstein said Dr. Forecast broke into his suitcase to get pain medications to give to MJ.

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One day, Dr. Finkelstein said he returned from a pyramid trip and his suitcase with all the medication had been broken in to.

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After Dr. Finkelstein treated MJ, an English doctor was brought in, Dr. Forecast.

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The doctor said they began believing him in Mexico City during the Dangerous Tour.

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Dr. Finkelstein: I was not hired as an addiction specialist but a family doctor to come on tour

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He said he believed MJ had a drug problem. "But no one believed me," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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Dr Finkelstein: When I tried to administer the medication and his butt was abscessed, I tried to give promoters heads up there was a problem

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"You don’t want to overdose a rock star and have a rockstar die on you," Dr. Finkelstein explained.

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Doctor Nick was Elvis Presley's doctor. Dr. Finkelstein said Elvis had about 14 different drugs in his system when he died.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he told Gongaware he didn't want to be a Doctor Nick.

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The doctor said he postponed the Bangkok tour. "I think we are going to have a problem," Dr. Finkelstein told Gongaware.

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Dr. Finkelstein said Gongaware called him to go on a rock tour in 1993. The doctor would be paid by the promoter.

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Paul Gongaware used to be the road manager for Rick James, Dr. Finkelstein said. He and Gongaware used to go skiing together.

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"He had obviously had multiple injections in his buttocks prior to coming to Bangkok," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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Dr. Finkelstein: Yes, the patch, 2 ampules of Demerol from Karen Faye, observation that MJ had a high tolerance and scarring on his buttocks

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Boyle: There were four factors that lead you to believe MJ was an opioid dependent?

ABC7 Court NewsABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m
The doctor said the ampules were given to him by the make artist, Karen Faye. They were for MJ.

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Dr. Finkelstein: We are talking about natural opiates and synthetic opiates. The patch, the medication is absorbed through the skin.

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Boyle: You testified about 2 ampules – what were you talking about, the ampules of Demerol?

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Dr Finkelstein: It was early in my training, but it was obviously a concern for me. Duragesic is also called Fentanyl, another opiate.

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The doctor said he had someone he felt that obviously had received a lot of medication in the past, had a high tolerance to medication.

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Dr. Finkelstein: MJ had 100 micro gram duragesic patch on and there were 2 ampules of Demerol that were sent to him with another crew member

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Dr. Finkelstein said MJ had an opiate problem, dependency.

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The doctor said the publicist told him to go on CNN and say MJ put so much effort in the show and was dehydrated.

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Dr. Finkelstein watched MJ on stage and said he was able to perform. The second concert in Bangkok was postponed for one day.

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Boyle: You became confident he was capable of going on tour?
Dr Finkelstein: Bad question,I administered medicine until he could go on stage

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The doctor said they were watching 3 Stooges and having squirt gun fights. They talked about growing up in Encino on Hayvenhurst.

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The doctor said he administered morphine and IV fluids. MJ was conscious and speaking.

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Dr. Finkelstein: I spent the next 24 hours in his room intermittently administering medication 'til MJ was capable going on stage in Bangkok

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Boyle: But you were spending half of your time in addiction medicine?
Dr. Finkelstein: I knew what I was doing and I was qualified, licensed

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Dr. Finkelstein administered morphine instead. In 1993, the doctor said he was not an expert in addiction.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he tried to give him a shot but his butt was so abscessed the needle almost bent. "I thought it was not safe," he said.

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Dr Metzger said MJ was had severe headache, was in a lot of pain. Dr Finkelstein said he didn't remember if he was told what medicine to use

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Dr. Finkelstein: He appeared to be in pain, I was put on the phone with his treating physician in Los Angeles, Dr. Alan Metzger.

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"He said you need to go to the principal." the doctor recalled.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he was not hired to treat the artist. But in Bangkok, he was called by security.

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Boyle: Who hired you for Dangerous Tour?
Dr. Finkelstein: Marcel Avram
B: What was your role?
Dr: To be the physician for the crew

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After he performed, Dr. Finkelstein said he was requested to go to MJ's hotel room.

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Dr. Finkelstein was hired to work on the Dangerous Tour in 1993. He said he was in Bangkok, MJ performed a concert.

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He is a leader in treating addiction for over 20 years and he said he considers himself an expert.

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Dr. Finkelstein is a specialist in internal and addiction medicine. He described his experience and residency to the jury.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he worked at Cerritos Family Clinic until 2 years ago with his ex-wife Petra Wong, now works at Stuart Finkelstein, MD.

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The video began playing at 10:37 am PT. It was recorded on Feb 1, 2013.

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Jacksons' attorney called Dr. Stuart Finkelstein by video deposition. He treated MJ 93 Dangerous Tour. Kevin Boyle did the questioning.

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Katherine Jackson present in court wearing silk bright purple jacket. Rebbie is accompanying her.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 44, Week 11 of Jackson family vs AEG trial under way.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:05 pm

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"Michael had a lot of pain, I administered a shot and left," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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He said he left some records at his mom's house and purged MJ's record from 95 since he wasn't a patient for 7 years.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he kept a journal of everything he did during the tour and he was backstage, his records were stolen.

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Dr. Klein -- would show up at concerts very frequently, Dr. Hoefflin came a couple of times, would spend the weekend, Dr. Finkelstein said.

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Dr Finkelstein said Narcan is antidote to opioids. He had it handy. "If I am going to administer medication I'm going to have a safety plan"

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Dr. Finkelstein was asked to treat MJ in Mexico City when Dr. Forecast wasn't around. MJ had back pain, Dr. Finkelstein gave him morphine.

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"it was compartmentalized and people were separated and segregated," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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"Everything was secretive," Dr. Finkelstein said, explaining
seems like no one ever knew the whole story.

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When other doctors, like Steve Hoefflin and Arnold Klein, would come to a concert to visit, the show would get delayed, Dr. Finkelstein said

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Dr. Finkelstein said his interaction with MJ was very limited. Dr. Forecast was in charge of the artist.

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Cahan asked Dr. Finkelstein is he ever administered Propofol to Michael Jackson. He answered no, laughing.

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The doctor said he believed MJ was in pain every time the doctor administered him morphine.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he gave MJ 10 mg of morphine. The usual starting dose is 2 -4 mg, but MJ had high tolerance to opioids.

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Dr. Finkelstein said the Demerol was prescribed by Dr. Alan Metzger in the name of Karen Faye. The drug was not for her, though.

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The doctor said there were several scars on MJ's buttocks, which led him to conclude MJ was dependent in opioids.

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Kathryn Cahan, attorney for AEG, did cross examination
Dr. Finkelstein said he would administer 50-100 mg of Demerol in MJ, on his buttocks

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"Michael wanted someone else," Dr. Finkelstein said Gongaware told him. "Gongaware was my friend, tried to get me the job, I didn't get it."

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Dr. Finkelstein said there were not a lot of discussions about the tour, since he didn't get the job.

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The doctor's brother, Bob Finkelstein, worked at Concerts West with Paul Gongaware. He knows Randy Phillips socially.

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Dr. Finkelstein said people from all walks of live can become opioid dependent.

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He said the mortality rate in Propofol dependents is really high, about 80%. Most of the dependents are in the medical field.

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Dr. Finkelstein said there are not lot of cases of Propofol dependency, since it is a drug that's really hard to get.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he would charge $40,000/month, $10,000/week. He remembers Dr. Murray asking for a lot of money to go on tour.

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Gongaware told him MJ was clean and passed a physical exam for insurance.

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The doctor explained he would not want to go on tour if MJ had drug problems. "I didn't want to be Dr. Nick," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he asked if Gongaware knew whether MJ was clean. The answer was yes.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he was excited about it, wanted to be MJ's physician, had 5-10 conversations with Gongaware about it.

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Dr Finkelstein testified Gongaware called him about two months prior to MJ's death and told him MJ was going to tour in London, wanted a doc

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Dr. Finkelstein explained his name is out there as a "Rock Doc," so he gets call from show producers and promoters to work at concerts.

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Dr. Finkelstein said he and Dr. Forecast agreed that MJ needed an intervention and detox.

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Boyle: Gongware was aware of problems MJ was having?
Dr. Finkelstein: Yes

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"He was a sweetheart, kind, gentle, fun," Dr. Finkelstein said about MJ. "Based on my observation, he was kind to everyone."

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Dr. Finkelstein: No. I believe it to be either genetically pre-disposed, or people who get exposed to these chemicals their brain changes

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Boyle: Is substance abuse a character flaw?

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Dr. Finkelstein said he and Dr. Forecast were in communications and Dr Forecast was concerned in being blamed for work done by previous docs

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"I saw Dr. Forecast administer pain medication in Mexico City during the deposition," Dr. Finkelstein said.

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Dr. Finkelstein: I know that I administered pain medication one other time when Dr. Forecast was not available.

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Finkelstein and Gongaware are friends, he said.
Boyle: Did you discuss with Mr. Gongaware about MJ's opioid dependency?
Dr Finkelstein: Yes

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Dr. Finkelstein said Dr. Forecast took care of the principal, Mr. Jackson. He does not know who was paying Dr. Forecast.

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The stress increased MJ's urge for opioids, Dr. Finkelstein said.
Elisabeth Taylor personally went to Mexico City to deal with MJ.

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There was also a video deposition of MJ in Mexico City related to the Chandler child molestation case.

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"He didn't collapse," Dr. Finkelstein said. "It seemed it was getting a harder and harder time to manage his pain."

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Dr. Finkelstein said he didn't know exactly who the powers that be were.

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Dr. Finkelstein: The head powers got together. They called in Elizabeth Taylor to do an intervention and took MJ to a Hospital in London.

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Dr. Forecast was the other doctor treating MJ. Dr. Finkelstein said he had enough medication for all 160 people going on tour, any scenario

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:34 pm

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Michael and the children went to see High School Musical in Las Vegas.

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HS Musical 1 and 2 were released on TV only, 3 was a movie. "It was the number one opening weekend of any musical ever," Ortega said.

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Panish showed clip of High School Musical. He directed and choreographed 1, 2 and 3.

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Panish showed excerpt of it with Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey; snippet of "Newsies," 1st full-length picture he directed/choreographed.

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Panish showed a video clip of Madonna's "Material Girl."
Ortega has been asked to do a new "Dirty Dancing" but he's not sure it will happen

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Ortega did choreography for Cher, Madonna, Kiss, Diana Ross, Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler.

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Ortega worked on High School Musical 1, 2 and 3, Dirty Dancing, Newsies, Pretty in Pink, St. Elmo's Fire, etc.

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Travis Payne was MJ's partner for the new choreography in TII.

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Ortega said he didn't do the choreography for the This Is It tour. It was lots of people, some was classic and belonged to MJ for some time.

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Choreographer creates the dance steps, movements in a stage show or concert or musical, Ortega explained.

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Ortega: I was in such awe of him and the brothers. It was such a momentous moment for me, it was like being touched by a star

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"He looked at me and smiled. I was overwhelmed," Ortega said.

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He opened up his own theater company when he was 18. Ortega said around 1963-64, Michael was walking through backstage they made eye contact

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Ortega said he started dancing when he was 4 years old. There was always music at his house, watched his parents dance.

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"I'm not an employee of AEG," Ortega responded.
Ortega said he is from Redwood City, CA, grew up in the Bay area.

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Ortega was originally named a defendant in this case. Panish asked if he knew why he was dismissed from the suit.

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Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with MJ?
Ortega: Yes

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Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with Randy Phillips?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega's rep dealt with Paul Gongaware in The Rolling Stones tour.
Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with Gongaware?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega: I believe Mick Jagger just made me an offer and we accepted it. My agent called me, daily offer, I accepted.

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The director said he was called by Mick Jagger to work on the 50th anniversary tour, working with AEG.

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Ortega said AEG was Michael's partner in promoting and producing TII, and they were financers of the project.

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Ortega said for the creative part, he reported to Michael and to AEG regarding budget or scheduling.

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He said he's a director, choreographer and sometimes producer. "My role in This Is It, I was Michael's creative partner in the show."

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Ortega said he has earring loss, so he can't hear well. He asked Panish to speak up.

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Ortega said at one point his rep said the negotiation turned from AEG Live to Michael Jackson. He doesn't know the details, though.

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Ortega said his agent and attorney negotiated his contract with AEG Live. Gongaware represented AEG Live.

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For certain things, Ortega said he reported to Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips.

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Ortega said he had a contract with AEG Live. "I was working in communication with them," he said.

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The director was deposed in the Lloyds of London litigation for several days.

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Ortega said he read some articles about this trial. He also read Karen Faye's deposition, given to him by his attorney.

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Ortega reviewed his deposition but did not read testimony given at Dr. Murray's criminal trial.

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Full name: Kenneth Ortega
Attorney for Jacksons Brian Panish did direct examination.

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Judge said he isn't adverse witness because he had contract with AEG. But judge said it may be a time where she will allow adverse questions

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Outside the presence of the jury, attorneys arguing about whether plaintiff can call Ortega as hostile witness.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:41 pm

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Panish said defendants have 14,000 exhibits on their list, down from 28,000. There are 1353 documents produced by Kenny Ortega.

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Judge adjourned trial until tomorrow at 1:30 pm PT. Ortega ordered to return then. Attorneys remained in court discussing exhibits.

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Ortega cont'd: Great news, I couldn't be happier for the Team.

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Ortega responded:
Yeah! Good for MJ, God knows he's been out through as much negative as any one person should have to go through.

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Gongaware responded:
We stopped at 50 sold out shows at the O2 arena. Demand was there for another 50. This is history and you're part of it

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Ortega responded:
I'd say we are off to a good start. Congrats to all

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Email on 3/12/09 from Gongaware to Ortega:
Blew out 30 shows today on the presale. Hot doesn't begin to describe it

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"Honestly, I didn't even know if it was for sure," Ortega said. He testified in his depo he was surprised Phillips didn't tell him anything.

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"I didn't know anything had happened and I wasn't there, so there wasn't anything to be surprised about," Ortega said.

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He said had he known, it would have had an impact on whether to go forward with TII.

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Ortega said Randy Phillips never told him what happened before the TII press conference with Michael Jackson.

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At times, Ortega said he can work in multiple projects, but once one takes off he needs to be exclusive to it.

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At this time, Ortega was working on development of movie for Paramount, "Footloose" remake. He was going to direct it.

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Ortega said MJ kept referring to the tour as "This Is It," so Ortega suggested the tour should be called TII.

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Email on Feb 10, 2009 from Gongaware to Ortega was the first email the director remembers about the TII.

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Ortega said Paul Gongaware and John Meglan were the ones who contacted him about being part of the TII tour.

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Ortega: If the show were to go on to other countries, then I would receive royalties, yes

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Ortega said TII was going to be in London and there was hope for international tour.

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Ortega: The scalp burn, I didn't know he was taking medication for it, I knew he was injured from the Pepsi commercial.

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Panish: Did anyone tell you they thought MJ was 'assisted' with something?
Ortega: No

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"He was a little... off, loopy," Ortega said.

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Panish: Did you observe MJ different after seeing a doctor?
Ortega: Yes
P: Please explain
O: Off, a little off
P: Loopy?
O: Yeah

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Ortega said he thinks MJ had back problems afterwards. But the director said he never saw MJ take medication.

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"I know he hurt his back," Ortega said. MJ jumped up and went back on the stage. "The show must go on."

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Ortega said because an improper cable replacement, the bridge came down faster that it was supposed to.

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Ortega: In Munich, Michael was on a set held up by cables. During the big conclusion of Earth song there was a bridge supposed to float down

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Panish showed clip of Earth song.
Ortega talked about shows that MJ did for charity.

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Ortega said the song "What About Us?" showed Michael's deep concern about healing the planet. "And that went deep," Ortega said.

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"Greatest example of it is Man in the Mirror," Ortega said. "Change needs to happen within each of us for a change in the world to happen.

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Panish showed video of "HIStory" tour opening. Ortega said MJ wanted his music to inspire change in the world.

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Ortega said he went on first 6 or so dates on both "Dangerous" and "HIStory" tour. He explained it was the normal amount.

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Ortega: The video used for the show would have subtitles saying love one another, take care of the planet, take care of the children.

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Panish: Was his creativity or demeanor different?
Ortega: He was still inspired, raised the bar on himself and on everyone working with him

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Ortega: We didn't always agree on 100%, we allowed ourselves to have creative joust, to play with the ideas and allowed it to ripe

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In "HIStory" tour Ortega and MJ were co-creators & co-directors. "We used to call creative jousting," Ortega described the creative process.

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MJ was then transported to the hospital by ambulance. "It could've been exhaustion, I don't know, I don't recall," Ortega said.

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Ortega said MJ fainted and the show was cancelled.
Panish: Can we say he collapsed?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega: He called me in because he was unhappy with what was going on with his classic choreography, he didn't want it to be changed.

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Panish: Did you ever become aware he was not well?
Ortega: He was unhappy

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In 1995, Ortega was acting as a consultant to MJ for an event at Beacon Theater in NY.

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Panish: Did you know Michael was dependent on painkillers?
Ortega: No
P: Never heard of that?
O: No
P: To this day?
O: No

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Ortega said MJ wanted to improve the human condition for children around the world.

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MJ wanted to make sure every child had what they needed, Ortega explained.

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MJ went to an orphanage in Romania before going to his hotel. Ortega said MJ didn't want to do the show before the orphanage was cleaned up.

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"It left people breathless," Ortega said.

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Panish showed clip of opening of Dangerous. "It was one of the most spectacular openings that anyone has seen or done," Ortega said.

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"He would call that milking the crowd," Ortega explained. "He knew how to work the crowd better than anybody."

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The "toaster" popped up and gave illusion of flying. Ortega said MJ would then stand still on stage for a few minutes.

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Ortega helped prepared the opening of the Dangerous tour in 1992. Michael would enter the stage in what they called "toaster."

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"He always wanted something that was world class and thrilling," Ortega said.

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The opening of the show was significant to MJ. He wanted the audience to think how will be able to top that!, Ortega testified.

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"He wanted to rock the world," Ortega said. "He wanted to let them know he was back."

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Ortega: It was primarily Michael's vision that I shared. He wanted to put on the greatest show that anyone had ever seen.

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Panish showed clip of "This Is It" movie showing the young dancers who had been chosen to dance with MJ and how he influenced them.

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"Like no one else in his generation," Ortega said. "I think he was the most influential dancer for generations of kids still even today."

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Ortega has worked in the industry for over 40 years. Panish asked Ortega how MJ influenced other dancers.

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Ortega described Michael Jackson:
Musician: world class
Singer: one of a kind
Dancer: the best

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"It was exciting, stimulating, awesome," Ortega said.

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He said he was co-director of Dangerous with MJ. MJ had a ton of ideas, asked him to realize those on stage.

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"I felt incredible, he was the greatest performer on the planet and as far as I'm concerned. The greatest song and dance man ever."

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Ortega first met MJ in 1990. "MJ called me to help mount the Dangerous Tour," he said.

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Ortega: Choreography is about the movement of the human body, technique, dance language, physical, how to instruct

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Ortega choreographed the 96 Olympics in Atlanta, 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Super Bowl half time, World Cup.

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"He was very generous, very sweet and kind to everyone," Ortega said about Michael Jackson.

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Panish: How did it make you feel?
Ortega: (long pause) I'm speechless, I can't think
P: Was that a big thrill?
O: Beyond

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:53 pm

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Ortega did not have a written agreement when he did the dancers audition.

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Ortega doesn't know when he signed his contract. Panish showed a copy of Ortega's contract. It was executed on April 25, 2009.

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Ortega said he performed auditions for dancers, singers, band and interviewed various people for various designer's role.

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Ortega: It would all work out and I kept the faith that that would happen.

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He and Payne continued working without a contract. "It was my hope and in the end we would come to terms," Ortega said.

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Ortega didn't think the negotiations were dead. He kept working in good faith. Ortega and Payne share the same agent (Julie McDonald).

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Panish asked if this was a negotiation tactic? Ortega smiled and answered perhaps.

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Panish: Were you surprised?
Ortega: Was I surprised? No
"Not what I expected, but sometimes negotiations take time," Ortega explained.

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Judge asked what "financial requirements" meant to him, and Ortega said it referred to his salary.

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"I remember it had to be approved by Mr. Jackson," Ortega said about the email. He testified he never spoke about money with MJ.

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Email cont'd: I know, but I haven't been able to find a way to make this work. My deepest, most sincere apology.
Paul G

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Email cont'd: I'm totally bummed by this. Couldn't sleep last night trying to figure it out. We need to move forward quickly.

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Email on March 25, 2009 from Gongaware to Ortega:
Kenny,
I'm afraid we may not be able to meet your financial requirements for a deal.

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Panish: Did you ask Bugzee to write an email on your behalf?
Ortega: Not that I recall

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"I wouldn't have called him stage manager," Ortega said about Bugzee (Houghdahl).

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Ortega said Bugzee was not the stage manager. He worked under Paul Gongaware as accountant, Ortega explained.

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Ortega said Karen Faye reached out to him, had already spoken with MJ about being part of the crew.

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Panish showed an email with names of artists who were to be involved in the "This Is It" tour.

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Ortega said he obviously wanted to make Michael look good, but the intention was to tell the story.

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"My goal was to edit together the pieces to tell a story about what Michael's goals for the show were," Ortega explained.

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Before June 19, Ortega said MJ hadn't come to rehearsals for a "good week," but it could've been more.

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Ortega: I remember there was plan to get schedule in order, it was my feeling we weren't going to make it, there was plan to make it clear

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Ortega's first phone call was at 11:25 am and MJ was not at rehearsal.
Panish: Did you learn they had an intervention?

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On Jun 19, there were several calls between Ortega and Dr. Murray. Ortega remembers this date because there was an issue with MJ.

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Ortega said MJ was his directing partner, he needed the artist to get the show on the road.

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"That all we worked, MJ and I, this dream, this goal he and I had, tis desire, was going to fall away," Ortega explained.

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Panish: Remember yourself having serious frustration on June 18th?
Ortega: Yes

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MJ wasn't showing up at all at rehearsals in June, Ortega testified. "I recall MJ not coming to rehearsals for a period of time in June."

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Panish: Were you ever involved in a show where you called a doctor of an artist when he was not coming to rehearsals?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Every scheduled day?
Ortega: That I don't know

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Panish: Was Michael coming every day to rehearsal in June?
Ortega: No

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"My own frustrations" Ortega said explaining Murray was creating the schedule, which wasn't working. "He was my lifeline so to speak"

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Ortega said they were already in rehearsals and the only reason KO would call Murray was to inquire about MJ's non-appearance at rehearsals.

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There were 4 calls between Dr. Murray and Ortega on June 18. One lasted 30 minutes.

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"At some point, it became my number one concern," Ortega said about MJ showing up at rehearsals.

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"I just wanted him to come to rehearsal," Ortega said. "In terms of when he came I was willing to structure everything around that."

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Panish asked if Ortega had ever seen a situation where a CEO of a company was responsible for the artist's schedule/attendance. Ortega: No

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Email cont'd: & structure in consultation with MJ. Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray are responsible for MJ's rehearsal and attendance.

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Email on June 23, 2009 from Timm Wooley to Bob Taylor:
Changes are structural only:
KO has responsibility only for the show content

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Panish: Was there a time you were concerned MJ wasn't showing up at rehearsals?
Ortega: Yes

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Dr. Murray would give Ortega the schedule rehearsal. Ortega said it was not unusual, but he never had a doctor give him artist's schedule.

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"First it was Dr. Murray and then Randy helped," Ortega said about MJ's rehearsal schedule.

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Panish: Who was responsible for the content of the show?
Ortega: Michael Jackson

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It was either Phillips or Paul Gongaware who told Ortega Dr. Murray would be making MJ's schedule and would help MJ get to rehearsal.

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MJ went to 2 rehearsals at Staples, June 23rd and 24th. Ortega said Dr. Murray was involved in creating Michael's scheduling for rehearsals

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Ortega met Dr. Murray at the Carolwood home in April or May. He remembers the doctor going to rehearsals once or twice.

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Phillips is quoted in release that "this is a one-off adjustment do purely technical reasons and we don't anticipate any further changes."

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"The show got so big," Ortega explained, saying he needed an extra week to get it ready.

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Ortega said they were exaggerating, and that he thought the press release was "creatively misleading."

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Email cont'd: another planet" or "never before seen staging." We are not doing the Chinese Olympics.

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Email cont'd: I feel strongly that it is unnecessary and misleading to both of the press and fans to suggest things as "staging is from

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Email on 5/19/09 from Ortega regarding the postponement of the show:
I'm uncomfortable with the way the release reads at this moment.

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"As a director of the show, I didn't feel we would be ready for the show's original dates," Ortega said.

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Ortega: Michael and I both wanted to extend our time before opening, so I felt comfortable taking the heat (of postponing it).

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The concerts were supposed to start in London on July 8.

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The contract says Ortega could get a total of $1.5 million, plus $100K for each of the five territories and $250K for the US.

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Contract: and incorporated herein by this reference.

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Contract cont'd: confirmed in emails between the parties' representatives, which such emails are attached hereto as Exhibit "A"

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Contract cont'd: (the "Agreement) between Company, on the one hand, and Employer and Employee, on the other hand, as previously

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Ortega Contract:
The principal terms and conditions of Employer and Employee's engagement for the Concerts are set forth in the agreement

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:59 pm

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Court then adjourned. Jury ordered back at 9:45 am PT tomorrow with more Kenny Ortega on the stand. We hope to see you then!

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Ortega said the intention was to get assistance in trying to help Michael in every way possible so he could go to rehearsal.

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On Jun 14, Ortega wrote to Gongaware that MJ was not allowed to attend the rehearsals the day, asked about MJ's nourishment/therapy.

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June 13th, Payne wrote an email saying MJ was taking a sick day, per doctor's order.

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Ortega: The choreographer is not responsible for the artist's physical/emotional, but if they see something they are to report to director

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Panish showed an email from Alif Sankey expressing concerns about MJ on June 4.

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Panish: Did you think he was communicating with clarity?
Ortega: No. For part of the evening. He got better

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Panish: Did he seem lost?
Ortega: Yes, on the 19th
P: Did he seem paranoid?
O: Yes

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Regarding MJ's balance, Ortega said there was a period of time it wasn't as good as it had been.
Ortega said MJ complained of back pain.

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Panish: How about losing weight?
Ortega: I had a concern, yes
Panish: How about balance issues?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega said on June 19th MJ was cold, shivering. "He was slow at growing into the show," Ortega explained.

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Ortega explained it was hard for him as a director to work like that, so he went to AEG's high ups.

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On June 19, there was a fitting to take place. Michael showed up but very late, Ortega said.

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They were going to rehearse in London as well. As of June 19th, Ortega hadn't seen MJ for a week or more.

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Panish: You had serious doubt?
Ortega: Yes

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"On the 19th I had more than a serious concern that the show could go on," Ortega said.

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They were supposed to leave for London on July 3, so they has 10-12 rehearsals remaining.

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:30 pm

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Ortega doesn't remember if he went to MJ's house on June 16. He's not disputing he did, though.

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"Not necessarily to be done, but things I needed Michael to give his input," Ortega said.

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Email cont'd: tonight for band work. How many individual vocals are we talking about? If he put his mind to it, how long would it take?

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Email cont'd: I will add your concerns/requests 2 an ever growing list of items I already plan 2 discuss w/ MJ. The plan is he's joining us

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Response on June 16, 2009 from Ortega
I have a 2:30 at MJ's house today with Frank, Randy, Paul and he Doctor.

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This exchange happened about 18 days prior to opening day.

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Ortega explained MJ was still building back his voice, that's what Bearden was referring, to have power to sing/dance the entire show.

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"He wasn't vocal ready yet, not in shape to sing and dance," Ortega said about MJ.

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Email cont'd: of the show live. His voices sounds amazing right now, he just needs to build it back up.

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Email cont'd: his stamina back up. Once he's healthy enough and has more strength I have full confidence he can sing the majority

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Email cont'd: MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time. He can use the ballads to sing live and get

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Email cont'd: and take out ad libs and such to try to make it feel new.

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Email cont'd: the stuff we need on the 22nd (our proposed media day). I we can get everything we need from the vault I can use what we have

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Email cont'd: I'd like 2 try 2 get some alternate takes or un-processed leads from the vault if we can. I can go in with M Prince and re-mix

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Email On June 16 from Bearden to Ortega:
Hey guys! on MJ's lead vocal re-sings. I'm not sure if we're going to get what we need in time.

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Panish asked if Bearden was also concerned with MJ's health. "He may have, yes," Ortega responded. Bearden is brilliant, successful musician

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Michael Bearden was the musical director in "This Is It" in charge of the music. Ortega said he's top notch, very respected in the business.

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"I did think she was looking after Michael's best interests," Ortega said about Faye. She did not keep MJ secluded this time around, though.

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Ortega and Faye don't get along on a personal level, Ortega said.

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"I don't think everyone spoke about it, but they were aware and concerned," Ortega said.

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Ortega said Karen Faye, Travis Payne, Alif Sankey, assistants Stacy Walker and James Faris raised concerns about MJ's physical condition.

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Ortega said he had been insured for big events, like the Olympics. He took physical examination for it.

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Panish: Do you know if at this time AEG had sick cancellation?
Ortega: No

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Ortega: I don't recall the conversation, but most likely yes, I'm not disputing his testimony.

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Ortega said he's not a specialist in drug addiction. Panish asked if he had discussion with Payne about it.

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Panish: You saw, at least 4 times, MJ come to rehearsal in a condition you'd describe as under the influence?
Ortega: Yes

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"I just didn't need Mr. Payne to make me aware of it," Ortega said, explaining he could see the problems himself.

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Ortega: I believe I was under the impression Michael was seeing doctor. I believe when he showed up like that he had been to a doctor.

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Ortega said he doesn't recall the conversation with Payne about MJ being treated for sleeping problems. He doesn't dispute that he may have

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"I don't have any idea in which capacity, but I knew he was, he was introduced to me as his doctor," Ortega said about Dr. Murray.

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Ortega said he understands being assisted to mean under the influence of something.

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Panish asked if Payne ever told Ortega MJ looked assisted when coming 2 rehearsal. Ortega said he doesn't remember if he used that word

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Panish: Would it be fair to say as of June 14, 2009, everyone was under pressure?
Ortega: Yes

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Panish: Would it be fair to say as of June 14, 2009, you thought the show was in jeopardy?
Ortega: Yes

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As to Gongaware's email, Ortega said he didn't know whether he discussed it with Gongaware.

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Email ends: We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him.

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Email on Jun 14, 2009 from Gongaware to Ortega:
Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting with doctor

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Ortega said he just wanted to make sure MJ had all health benefits available to be able to do the show.

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Email ends: and Staples for all the remaining rehearsals as well as the few we have at the O2 in July. Thanks, KO

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Email cont'd: he can meet the schedule or there are going to be consequences. We need a healthy, rested and ready MJ at the Forum

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Email cont'd: Travis asking him to come to the house. MJ needs to be told that it's time to get real. He must take care of himself so that

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Email cont'd: and to arrive us at our goals. Every time he is late or cancels it chisels away that possibility. There can be no more calls 2

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Email cont'd: we can't let him slip. I'm doing all I can every day 2 build up his confidence & to create schedule that will help 2 ready him

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Email cont'd: He is not in great physical shape. I believe he's hurting. He has been slow at grabbing hold of the work. We have twenty days

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Email cont'd: As I mentioned I truly believe he needs nourishment guidance & physical therapy (massage) for his fatigued muscles & injuries

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Email cont'd: We must do all that we can as a team to stay on top of his needs everyday. He required more attention and management.

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Email cont'd: He has been habitually late (the norm). I realize he's up against a lot. I have ton of love/sympathy 4 what he's been through

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Email on June 14, 2009 from Ortega to Gongaware:
Paul,
MJ did not have a good Friday and he didn't show on Saturday.

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Panish: Have you ever been on a show where doctor told artist not to rehearse?
Ortega: I think I worked in a show where artists were sick

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About email Ortega sent Gongaware asking if he knew Dr. Murray ordered MJ not to rehearse, Ortega said he wanted to alert AEG about it.

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Panish: Did you use term "pull the plug?"
Ortega: I may have

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Ortega said he discussed with Phillips if things didn't change they might've to stop show."Without Michael I don't know how we can continue"

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The discussion happened when MJ was absent from rehearsals, Ortega said. The director wrote an email suggesting to stop the show.

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Panish: Did Mr. Phillips talk about pulling the plug?
Ortega: I don't know if he used that terminology, but we did discuss stopping the show

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Panish asked if Ortega suggested to pull the plug on MJ. Ortega responded: "I may, not regarding MJ, but the show."

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Panish: Pull the plug, is that a term you use?
Ortega: Yes

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AEG is paying for Ortega's attorney in this case and he's getting a witness fee of $35/day.

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Ortega received a daily rate to work in The Rolling Stones tour. The amount was negotiated/set by his agent.

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Katherine Jackson was present in the courtroom wearing royal blue jacket. Ortega said he didn't review anything since yesterday.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 46 of Jackson family vs AEG trial (Week 11) has wrapped up. Kenny Ortega testified all day.

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:40 pm

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Ortega: I really didn't know what Dr. Murray did, but Michael showing up in this condition, I had a concern.

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Panish: Did you have a concern about Dr. Murray at this time?

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Ortega said he doesn't remember speaking with the doctor. He said he believes he did the best he could to reach him, though.

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Panish showed phone records of Ortega where he called Dr. Murray several times on June 19th.

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After the break, Ortega apologized to everyone. Testimony resumed.

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"I'm not ok right now," Ortega said. Judge asked if he wanted a break, he asked for a few minutes. Judge gave a 10-minute break.

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Email ends: He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can rise to the occasion if we get him the help he needs.

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Ortega began to cry while reading this part of the email.

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Email cont'd: He asked me repeatedly tonight if i was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. It broke my heart.

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Email cont'd: he wants this. It would shatter him, break his heart if we pulled the plug. He's terribly frightened it's all going to go away

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Email cont'd: outside his door, but no one offering him a cup of hot tea. Finally, it's important for everyone 2 know, I believe that really

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Email cont'd: him in blankets to warm his chill, massaging his feet to calm him and calling his doctor. There were four security guards

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Email cont'd: responsibility (caring for) for him on a daily basis. Where was his assistant tonight? Tonight I was feeding him, wrapping

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Email cont'd: costume fitting with his designer tonight they noticed he's lost more weight. As far as I can tell, there's no one taking

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Email cont'd: to help him through this as well as immediate physical nurturing. I was told by our choreographer that during the artists

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Email cont'd: psychologically evaluated. If we have any chance at all to get him back in the light, it's going to take a strong Therapist

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Email cont'd: evening. He had a terrible case of the chills, was trembling, rambling and obsessing. Everything in me says he should be

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Email cont'd: is that the Artist may be unable to rise to the occasion due to real emotional stuff. He appeared quite weak and fatigued this

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Email cont'd: My concern is now that we've brought the Doctor in to the fold and have played the tough love, now or never card,

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"Trouble At The Front" Email:
Ortega wrote:
I will do whatever I can to be of help with this situation.

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Ortega said he didn't respond to the chain of emails, but was only offering his accounting of the day.

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Ortega said he remembers having thoughts at the Staples Center and typed his email probably while still there.

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Ortega: I didn't leave MJ's side until he left. I wanted to be with him, I didn't want to leave his side.

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"I made him aware of the situation," Ortega said about Hougdahl. "I don't even know I personally said it to him or sent someone else."

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"This isn't my email, I didn't ask him to write this email, I asked him to reach out to Paul and Randy" Ortega said. "These aren't my words"

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Email ends: The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive. Time to circle the wagons.
Bugzee

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Email cont'd: and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet - get hurt.

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Email cont'd: Kenny asked me to notify you both. MJ was sent home without stepping foot on stage. He was a basket case

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Email on 6/19/09 from John Hougdahl to Gongaware and Phillips
Subject: Trouble at the front
Paul/Randy
I'm not being a drama queen here...

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Ortega: I thought Michael had a problem on the 19th. I wasn't thinking about the production on the 19th. I was only thinking about Michael!

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Email from Leiweke to Phillips asking to set up a meeting. Then Phillips forwarded the email to KO asking him to be present at the meeting.

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Ortega took a deep breath. Panish asked him if he was alright. He answered lets keep going, please.

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Panish showed email chain "Trouble At The Front".
Ortega said he sent emails to AEG only when he thought it was absolutely necessary.

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Panish: Did you try to tell AEG there was a problem?
Ortega: I believe you have records of it

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Panish: And you did everything you could?
Ortega: Yes, that I could think about it

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P: Overreacting?
O: No
P: Being a drama queen?
O: No
P: Serious concern?
O: Yes

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Panish: Were you crying because you were concerned with Michael?
Ortega: Yes

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Panish: Do you remember crying?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega said Michael asked that Travis Payne be on stage and be him, so he could seat with the director and see it.

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Ortega said he cut up the salad, Michael ate, they talked and Michael said he didn't want to go home, he wanted to watch the rehearsal.

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In the overflow room, several fans raised their hands at this point saying they would rub his feet anytime!

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Ortega said MJ told him he never had his feet massaged before. "I couldn't believe it!" Ortega said.

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Ortega: We talked, Karen put a heater on the floor, took off his shoes, I began rubbing his feet, he said it felt very good

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Ortega: I know that I did my best to provide for Michael. I don't recall if the doctor ever answered the phone or I kept leaving voicemails.

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"I wanted someone who's a professional to be aware that Michael showed up in that condition," Ortega explained.

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"I remember asking for food, I asked if MJ had eaten" Ortega recalled. "I remember calling the doctor, I was very upset and I was concerned"

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Panish: Did you ever seen his like that before?
Ortega: No

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Ortega said MJ was covered when he saw him on June 19th, so he didn't see him like the photo.

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Panish: Is that how he always looked?
Ortega: No
P: What was different?
O: His body, he looked very thin
P: A little emaciated?
O: Yes

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Ortega: No. I didn't see him in T-shirt, so I wouldn't know he was that thin.

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Panish showed picture of MJ's fitting on June 19th and asked if that's how he always looked.

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Ortega: I was in a room, right off the main room. I think MJ was already in the room. Karen called me and asked me to come in to the room

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Panish: Did you feel something was wrong?
Ortega: Yes. Not well enough to rehearse

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Ortega: He seemed to warm up and feel a little better, but he wasn't well.

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Ortega said MJ was coherent. "I think when he first came in he didn't seem coherent, but when I started talking to him he became better."

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"I observed Michael like I had never seen him before," Ortega said. It troubled me deeply, he appeared lost, cold, afraid."

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Panish: Did it appear he had lost weight?
Ortega: Yes

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Panish: Skinny?
Ortega: Skinny? No, he wasn't a heavy person to begin with. It wasn't weight I was concerned on, it was his appearance.

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Panish: Troubling?
Ortega: Very troubling
As to his physical condition, Ortega said MJ was shivering, just seemed fragile.

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Ortega: He, I thought there was something emotionally going, on, deeply emotional, thought something physical going on. He was cold.

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"I saw a Michael that frightened me, a Michael that was shivering and cold," Ortega said.

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Ortega said MJ arrived at night to rehearse on June 19, probably in the evening around 9 o'clock.

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Ortega doesn't recall whether MJ was at the rehearsals on June 16, 17 and 18. He knows MJ was at the rehearsal on June 19.

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Ortega explained he doesn't remember anyone telling him not to go to the June 16th meeting.

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"I could've had this meeting, but there were just so much going on, I could've been there on the 16th, I just don't recall," Ortega said.

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"I would call the meeting on the 20th an intervention," Ortega said.

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