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VERDICT WATCH - ALL TWEETS-NEWS-ETC..9/27/13 & 10/1/13 & 10/2/13
by Admin Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:01 pm
Update: VERDICT WATCH 10/1/13 & 10/2/13 is also on this thread. See newest posts below.
Please post everything pertaining to today's verdict watch in this thread. All news articles please post separately - then put link to it on this thread - thanks
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The rule in this courtroom regarding the buzzes:
1 buzz -- question
2 buzzes -- verdict
3 buzzes -- emergency
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 4m
This morning the jurors buzzed once asking for a Coke. Then they had another note, asking for 8 legal pads for writing and a ruler.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6m
Note 1:
- 12 highlighters
- 12 red pens
- 12 black pens
- video player
- This Is It documentary
- 12 copies independent contractor agreement
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
At 3:05 pm PT yesterday, jurors sent Note 1 asking:
- 12 copies of the jury instruction
- A large supply of post it notes
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
They chose the presiding juror yesterday and sent Note 1.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 9m
Good morning from the courthouse. First full day of jury deliberations under way. The jurors started working at 9:30 am PT today.
Please post everything pertaining to today's verdict watch in this thread. All news articles please post separately - then put link to it on this thread - thanks
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ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 3m
The rule in this courtroom regarding the buzzes:
1 buzz -- question
2 buzzes -- verdict
3 buzzes -- emergency
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 4m
This morning the jurors buzzed once asking for a Coke. Then they had another note, asking for 8 legal pads for writing and a ruler.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6m
Note 1:
- 12 highlighters
- 12 red pens
- 12 black pens
- video player
- This Is It documentary
- 12 copies independent contractor agreement
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
At 3:05 pm PT yesterday, jurors sent Note 1 asking:
- 12 copies of the jury instruction
- A large supply of post it notes
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
They chose the presiding juror yesterday and sent Note 1.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 9m
Good morning from the courthouse. First full day of jury deliberations under way. The jurors started working at 9:30 am PT today.
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Jurors ask for 12 copies of Dr. Murray's contract with AEG as they consider hiring question in #MichaelJackson wrongful death trial
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Michael Jackson death trial: Jury to resume deliberations Friday
by Admin Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:48 pm
Michael Jackson death trial: Jury to resume deliberations Friday
By Alan Duke, CNN
September 26, 2013
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Jurors began deliberations Thursday in the Michael Jackson wrongful-death trial, potentially bringing the contentious case to a close after five months of testimony and three days of closing arguments.
The 12 jurors spent two hours in the jury room Thursday afternoon before ending their day; they will return Friday morning for more deliberations.
Katherine Jackson's lawyer delivered his final arguments in the AEG Live trial Thursday morning, delivering his rebuttal to defense closing arguments.
AEG Live's Marvin Putnam had asked jurors to find Michael Jackson responsible for his death, not the company that promoted and produced his comeback concerts in 2009.
Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, contending the company was liable in the pop icon's drug overdose death because its executives negligently hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray.
"Plaintiffs want you to hold a concert promoter liable for Michael Jackson's overdose in his bedroom at night, behind locked doors on June 25, 2009," Putnam told jurors. "An overdose of the drug administered to Mr. Jackson by his longtime doctor -- Dr. Murray -- who he'd been seeing for years, a doctor he brought to Los Angeles from Las Vegas."
"How dare they come up here and accept no responsibility and blame it all on Michael," Jackson lawyer Brian Panish said in his rebuttal.
Panish suggested that Jackson's share of blame was 20%, "but the rest goes on AEG."
When the trial began five months ago, Putnam warned he would show "ugly stuff" and reveal Jackson's "deepest, darkest secret."
The revelations that jurors heard from 58 witnesses over 83 days of testimony spanning 21 weeks included details of Jackson's drug use and his shopping for a doctor to give him the surgical anesthetic propofol that he thought would give him sleep.
"He was nearly half a billion dollars in debt," Putnam argued Wednesday. "His mother's house was near foreclosure, we didn't know that then. What else do we know now? That Mr. Jackson spent decades shopping for doctors to give him the painkillers he wanted. Mr. Jackson made sure we didn't know that."
Panish, the lead Jackson lawyer, conceded in his closing Tuesday that the singer may have some fault for his own death, but said "it's about shared responsibility."
Jackson did use prescription painkillers and was warned that using propofol at home to sleep was risky, "but he never had a problem until Dr. Conrad Murray was working and until Conrad Murray negotiated with AEG Live," Panish argued.
Who's to blame for Michael Jackson's death?
The AEG Live lawyer argued Wednesday that Jackson should take the full blame. "The sad truth is Mr. Jackson's death was caused by his choices and it would have happened no matter what -- with or without AEG Live."
The Jackson lawyer urged jurors to award the family between $1 billion and $2 billion in damages for what he called AEG Live's share of liability in Jackson's death -- to replace what Jackson would have earned touring, had he lived, and for the personal suffering from the loss of a son and father.
Putnam told jurors Wednesday that was "an absurd number."
Katherine Jackson testified that she filed the wrongful death lawsuit three years ago against AEG Live "because I want to know what really happened to my son."
Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's propofol overdose death.
The judge is allowing a television camera in court for the closing arguments and verdict.
Lawyer: Blame Jackson for his death, not AEG Live
Burden of "Poof"
Panish -- a former college football player who has a reputation for winning large damage awards -- appeared more aggressive in his rebuttal than in his initial closing arguments delivered Tuesday.
In what may become a much-repeated video highlight, Panish joked about how his AEG LIve counterpart had accused him of making up the estimate of $59 million that MIchael Jackson could have been expected to have given his mother and children in support had he lived.
"Poof! Poof! I just made it up!" Panish said dramatically as he pointed to Putnam, sitting at the AEG Live defense table. The line and gesture drew a laugh from some jurors.
Panish showed jurors that the figure was actually from a opinion provided by a financial expert that AEG Live hired to analyze the issue.
Putnam, in his closing Wednesday, referenced the expert's lower-end estimate of $21 million. The numbers could be important in guiding the jury if it decides to award damages to the Jacksons.
AEG Live's defense
Murray treated Michael Jackson and his children for minor illnesses while they lived in Las Vegas for three years, before the singer returned to Los Angeles to prepare for his "This Is It" comeback tour. It was Jackson -- not AEG Live executives -- who chose Murray to be his full-time doctor for his tour, the company's lawyers contend.
AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware negotiated to pay Murray $150,000 a month only because of Jackson's request to have his doctor with him as he performed 50 shows at London's O2 Arena, they argue.
"He told them 'We're bringing this doctor,' " Putnam said. "This was a choice Mr. Jackson made. He was a grown man."
AEG Live executives tried to talk Jackson out of taking an American doctor with him on tour, suggesting he could save money by using a physician in London, Putnam said.
"But Mr. Jackson was undeterred," he said. "Ultimately, it was his money, his doctor, his choice. He certainly wasn't going to take 'no' for an answer."
There was no need to check Murray's background because he was a licensed, successful doctor who was known to Jackson, Putnam said. "All AEG Live knew was Dr. Murray was Mr. Jackson's longtime doctor."
A key argument in the Jackson case is that AEG Live was negligent by not ordering a financial background check of Murray, which would have revealed he was in a dire financial situation and not successful. His desperation to keep his lucrative job led Murray to violate his Hippocratic Oath to do no harm by using the dangerous propofol infusions to put Jackson to sleep each night for two months, Jackson lawyers argue.
AEG Live executives had no way of knowing Murray was treating Jackson's insomnia with propofol in the privacy of his bedroom, their lawyers contend. Jackson was a secretive addict, adept at keeping family, friends and other doctors in the dark about his medical treatments, they argue.
But two doctors testified that they told Gongaware about Jackson's abuse of painkillers and his insomnia during tours in the 1990s, when the AEG Live executive served as tour manager. Jackson lawyers argue Gongaware, who was the top producer on the new tour, should have known that Jackson could suffer the same problems in 2009.
The deterioration of Jackson's health over the two months he was being treated by Murray was a red flag that there was a problem, but AEG Live executives negligently ignored the warning, Jackson lawyers argue. By June 19, he was frail, suffering chills, unable to do his trademark dances and paranoid, according to testimony.
"Everyone believed at the time that a 50-year-old man, who hadn't performed in a decade was tired, out of shape and very nervous," Putnam argued Wednesday. "That's what they believed at the time and it makes sense."
AEG Live would avoid a negative verdict if it is able to convince at least four of the 12 jurors that it did not hire Murray. It is the first of 16 questions on the jury verdict form. If jurors answer it with a "no" -- that AEG Live did not hire the doctor -- they would end their deliberations and the trial.
An AEG Live lawyer e-mailed an employment contract to Murray on the morning of June 24, 2009. Murray signed it and faxed it back to the company that day. But the signature lines for AEG Live's CEO and for Michael Jackson were never signed since Jackson died the next day.
But Panish, the lead Jackson lawyer, told jurors Tuesday that all the elements of an oral contract -- "just as valid as a written contract" -- were in place when Jackson died.
Murray had been treating Jackson for two months and the written contract stated that his start day was May 1, 2009. A series of e-mail exchanges involving Murray and AEG Live executives and lawyers support this argument, Panish said.
A look at the life of Michael Jackson
Blame and damages
If the jury concludes AEG Live has liability, it would have to decide how much the company should pay in economic and personal damages to Jackson's mother and children. They can use estimates of Jackson's "lost earnings capacity" -- the amount of money he could reasonably be expected to have earned if he had lived -- to guide them.
AEG Live expert Eric Briggs testified it was "speculative" that Jackson would have even completed another tour because of his drug use, damaged reputation and history of failed projects. He suggested the star may never have earned another dime.
Putnam's closing argument about damages must overcome the impression left on jurors Tuesday, when Panish played a video montage of Jackson performances.
"That is, I think, the best evidence of if Michael Jackson could have sold tickets -- not what Mr. Briggs would tell you," Panish told jurors.
Panish suggested jurors pick a number between $900 million and $1.6 billion for economic damages. They should add on another $290 million for non-economic damages -- or personal damages, he said.
Putnam argued that the number, if the jury finds AEG Live liable, should be closer to $21 million, the amount of money AEG Live's expert calculated Jackson would have given his mother and three children over the next 16 years. He couldn't have given them more because he had a $400 million debt that was getting deeper, he said.
"If Mr. Jackson had lived, it's hard to see how he would ever have dug himself out of that whole," Putnam said.
The last question on the verdict form asks jurors to assign a percentage that they believe represents Michael Jackson's share of blame in his death. The total damages owed by AEG Live would be reduced by that percentage.
While AEG Live lawyers did not suggest a percentage, Panish suggested jurors reduce the damage award by 20% to reflect Jackson's share of blame.
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By Alan Duke, CNN
September 26, 2013
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Jurors began deliberations Thursday in the Michael Jackson wrongful-death trial, potentially bringing the contentious case to a close after five months of testimony and three days of closing arguments.
The 12 jurors spent two hours in the jury room Thursday afternoon before ending their day; they will return Friday morning for more deliberations.
Katherine Jackson's lawyer delivered his final arguments in the AEG Live trial Thursday morning, delivering his rebuttal to defense closing arguments.
AEG Live's Marvin Putnam had asked jurors to find Michael Jackson responsible for his death, not the company that promoted and produced his comeback concerts in 2009.
Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, contending the company was liable in the pop icon's drug overdose death because its executives negligently hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray.
"Plaintiffs want you to hold a concert promoter liable for Michael Jackson's overdose in his bedroom at night, behind locked doors on June 25, 2009," Putnam told jurors. "An overdose of the drug administered to Mr. Jackson by his longtime doctor -- Dr. Murray -- who he'd been seeing for years, a doctor he brought to Los Angeles from Las Vegas."
"How dare they come up here and accept no responsibility and blame it all on Michael," Jackson lawyer Brian Panish said in his rebuttal.
Panish suggested that Jackson's share of blame was 20%, "but the rest goes on AEG."
When the trial began five months ago, Putnam warned he would show "ugly stuff" and reveal Jackson's "deepest, darkest secret."
The revelations that jurors heard from 58 witnesses over 83 days of testimony spanning 21 weeks included details of Jackson's drug use and his shopping for a doctor to give him the surgical anesthetic propofol that he thought would give him sleep.
"He was nearly half a billion dollars in debt," Putnam argued Wednesday. "His mother's house was near foreclosure, we didn't know that then. What else do we know now? That Mr. Jackson spent decades shopping for doctors to give him the painkillers he wanted. Mr. Jackson made sure we didn't know that."
Panish, the lead Jackson lawyer, conceded in his closing Tuesday that the singer may have some fault for his own death, but said "it's about shared responsibility."
Jackson did use prescription painkillers and was warned that using propofol at home to sleep was risky, "but he never had a problem until Dr. Conrad Murray was working and until Conrad Murray negotiated with AEG Live," Panish argued.
Who's to blame for Michael Jackson's death?
The AEG Live lawyer argued Wednesday that Jackson should take the full blame. "The sad truth is Mr. Jackson's death was caused by his choices and it would have happened no matter what -- with or without AEG Live."
The Jackson lawyer urged jurors to award the family between $1 billion and $2 billion in damages for what he called AEG Live's share of liability in Jackson's death -- to replace what Jackson would have earned touring, had he lived, and for the personal suffering from the loss of a son and father.
Putnam told jurors Wednesday that was "an absurd number."
Katherine Jackson testified that she filed the wrongful death lawsuit three years ago against AEG Live "because I want to know what really happened to my son."
Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's propofol overdose death.
The judge is allowing a television camera in court for the closing arguments and verdict.
Lawyer: Blame Jackson for his death, not AEG Live
Burden of "Poof"
Panish -- a former college football player who has a reputation for winning large damage awards -- appeared more aggressive in his rebuttal than in his initial closing arguments delivered Tuesday.
In what may become a much-repeated video highlight, Panish joked about how his AEG LIve counterpart had accused him of making up the estimate of $59 million that MIchael Jackson could have been expected to have given his mother and children in support had he lived.
"Poof! Poof! I just made it up!" Panish said dramatically as he pointed to Putnam, sitting at the AEG Live defense table. The line and gesture drew a laugh from some jurors.
Panish showed jurors that the figure was actually from a opinion provided by a financial expert that AEG Live hired to analyze the issue.
Putnam, in his closing Wednesday, referenced the expert's lower-end estimate of $21 million. The numbers could be important in guiding the jury if it decides to award damages to the Jacksons.
AEG Live's defense
Murray treated Michael Jackson and his children for minor illnesses while they lived in Las Vegas for three years, before the singer returned to Los Angeles to prepare for his "This Is It" comeback tour. It was Jackson -- not AEG Live executives -- who chose Murray to be his full-time doctor for his tour, the company's lawyers contend.
AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware negotiated to pay Murray $150,000 a month only because of Jackson's request to have his doctor with him as he performed 50 shows at London's O2 Arena, they argue.
"He told them 'We're bringing this doctor,' " Putnam said. "This was a choice Mr. Jackson made. He was a grown man."
AEG Live executives tried to talk Jackson out of taking an American doctor with him on tour, suggesting he could save money by using a physician in London, Putnam said.
"But Mr. Jackson was undeterred," he said. "Ultimately, it was his money, his doctor, his choice. He certainly wasn't going to take 'no' for an answer."
There was no need to check Murray's background because he was a licensed, successful doctor who was known to Jackson, Putnam said. "All AEG Live knew was Dr. Murray was Mr. Jackson's longtime doctor."
A key argument in the Jackson case is that AEG Live was negligent by not ordering a financial background check of Murray, which would have revealed he was in a dire financial situation and not successful. His desperation to keep his lucrative job led Murray to violate his Hippocratic Oath to do no harm by using the dangerous propofol infusions to put Jackson to sleep each night for two months, Jackson lawyers argue.
AEG Live executives had no way of knowing Murray was treating Jackson's insomnia with propofol in the privacy of his bedroom, their lawyers contend. Jackson was a secretive addict, adept at keeping family, friends and other doctors in the dark about his medical treatments, they argue.
But two doctors testified that they told Gongaware about Jackson's abuse of painkillers and his insomnia during tours in the 1990s, when the AEG Live executive served as tour manager. Jackson lawyers argue Gongaware, who was the top producer on the new tour, should have known that Jackson could suffer the same problems in 2009.
The deterioration of Jackson's health over the two months he was being treated by Murray was a red flag that there was a problem, but AEG Live executives negligently ignored the warning, Jackson lawyers argue. By June 19, he was frail, suffering chills, unable to do his trademark dances and paranoid, according to testimony.
"Everyone believed at the time that a 50-year-old man, who hadn't performed in a decade was tired, out of shape and very nervous," Putnam argued Wednesday. "That's what they believed at the time and it makes sense."
AEG Live would avoid a negative verdict if it is able to convince at least four of the 12 jurors that it did not hire Murray. It is the first of 16 questions on the jury verdict form. If jurors answer it with a "no" -- that AEG Live did not hire the doctor -- they would end their deliberations and the trial.
An AEG Live lawyer e-mailed an employment contract to Murray on the morning of June 24, 2009. Murray signed it and faxed it back to the company that day. But the signature lines for AEG Live's CEO and for Michael Jackson were never signed since Jackson died the next day.
But Panish, the lead Jackson lawyer, told jurors Tuesday that all the elements of an oral contract -- "just as valid as a written contract" -- were in place when Jackson died.
Murray had been treating Jackson for two months and the written contract stated that his start day was May 1, 2009. A series of e-mail exchanges involving Murray and AEG Live executives and lawyers support this argument, Panish said.
A look at the life of Michael Jackson
Blame and damages
If the jury concludes AEG Live has liability, it would have to decide how much the company should pay in economic and personal damages to Jackson's mother and children. They can use estimates of Jackson's "lost earnings capacity" -- the amount of money he could reasonably be expected to have earned if he had lived -- to guide them.
AEG Live expert Eric Briggs testified it was "speculative" that Jackson would have even completed another tour because of his drug use, damaged reputation and history of failed projects. He suggested the star may never have earned another dime.
Putnam's closing argument about damages must overcome the impression left on jurors Tuesday, when Panish played a video montage of Jackson performances.
"That is, I think, the best evidence of if Michael Jackson could have sold tickets -- not what Mr. Briggs would tell you," Panish told jurors.
Panish suggested jurors pick a number between $900 million and $1.6 billion for economic damages. They should add on another $290 million for non-economic damages -- or personal damages, he said.
Putnam argued that the number, if the jury finds AEG Live liable, should be closer to $21 million, the amount of money AEG Live's expert calculated Jackson would have given his mother and three children over the next 16 years. He couldn't have given them more because he had a $400 million debt that was getting deeper, he said.
"If Mr. Jackson had lived, it's hard to see how he would ever have dug himself out of that whole," Putnam said.
The last question on the verdict form asks jurors to assign a percentage that they believe represents Michael Jackson's share of blame in his death. The total damages owed by AEG Live would be reduced by that percentage.
While AEG Live lawyers did not suggest a percentage, Panish suggested jurors reduce the damage award by 20% to reflect Jackson's share of blame.
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Jury took a 15-minute break. They are back in the room deliberating.
Jury took a 15-minute break. They are back in the room deliberating.
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Once the jury reaches a verdict, we will live stream it. You'll watch it first hand with us!
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Jury is out to lunch. 4 hours 15 minutes of deliberation so far. They come back in 1 hour and half.
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Please keep all verdict convo on this thread--
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#MichaelJackson wrongful death trial Jurors also asked for "This Is It" DVD and player (and Coke, but no popcorn.)
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We'll be here to bring you all the details of verdict watch. Other than the 2 notes sent earlier, nothing else requested.
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One of the jurors requested next Monday off. So deliberation resumes on Tuesday at 9:30 am PT.
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Jury has gone home for the day. NO VERDICT yet. They deliberated for 4 hours and a half today. Total of 6 and a half hours so far.
We'll be here to bring you all the details of verdict watch. Other than the 2 notes sent earlier, nothing else requested.
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One of the jurors requested next Monday off. So deliberation resumes on Tuesday at 9:30 am PT.
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Jury has gone home for the day. NO VERDICT yet. They deliberated for 4 hours and a half today. Total of 6 and a half hours so far.
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Re: VERDICT WATCH - ALL TWEETS-NEWS-ETC..9/27/13 & 10/1/13 & 10/2/13
by WeAreTheWorld. Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:31 pm
Jurors have gone home for the evening. No deliberations on monday- court starts back on Tuesday.
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Thanks guys. AD will probably be on HLN over the w/e and AP (Anthony) will be back next week. I will get the rest of the court scr caps posted tomorrow/Sunday.
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by Admin Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:44 am
it's really kind of hard to believe that the jury only deliberated for such a short time today. Seems odd to me that they would only be willing to do only half a day after having this long of a trial.hopefully they will come to a verdict early in the week.
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Re: VERDICT WATCH - ALL TWEETS-NEWS-ETC..9/27/13 & 10/1/13 & 10/2/13
by ijustcan'tstoplovinguMJ Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:41 pm
i hope too admin. surley it will come to an end soon
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Jury goes home and returns TUESDAY in #MichaelJackson death trial. Off Monday.
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Michael Jackson trial: More about the jurors
by Miriam Hernandez
September 27, 2013
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
The jury in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial was behind closed doors on Friday conducting its first full day of deliberations.
Jurors have 80 days of testimony to debate. Through court documents, they have disclosed their top priorities. They elected juror No. 6 as the foreperson, a married high school physical education teacher who lives in downtown Los Angeles.
The jurors have requested two pieces of evidence: Dr. Conrad Murray's independent contractor agreement and a DVD copy of the "This Is It" documentary, which portrayed Jackson during the time his family's attorneys say his health was deteriorating.
"They're going to be looking to see what the defense has said for them to look for, is that Michael Jackson was performing very well just before his death," said legal analyst Barry Edwards.
Jackson attorney Brian Panish urged jurors in closing arguments to dismiss the movie because it was AEG that helped produce it, showing Jackson in the best light. As for Murray's contract, it would be the centerpiece of any argument dealing with the first question on the verdict form: Did AEG Live hire Dr. Conrad Murray?
About the foreperson, some Jackson fans have had questions about him. Two wrote a letter of complaint to the judge, which was later submitted into evidence. The fans asserted that the juror had noticeable eye contact with a female AEG lawyer. Fans interpreted it as flirting, but the judge did not.
"The judge did nothing with regards to the complaint and I don't believe there is much importance that can be placed on that by a third party against this juror," said Edwards.
by Miriam Hernandez
September 27, 2013
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
The jury in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial was behind closed doors on Friday conducting its first full day of deliberations.
Jurors have 80 days of testimony to debate. Through court documents, they have disclosed their top priorities. They elected juror No. 6 as the foreperson, a married high school physical education teacher who lives in downtown Los Angeles.
The jurors have requested two pieces of evidence: Dr. Conrad Murray's independent contractor agreement and a DVD copy of the "This Is It" documentary, which portrayed Jackson during the time his family's attorneys say his health was deteriorating.
"They're going to be looking to see what the defense has said for them to look for, is that Michael Jackson was performing very well just before his death," said legal analyst Barry Edwards.
Jackson attorney Brian Panish urged jurors in closing arguments to dismiss the movie because it was AEG that helped produce it, showing Jackson in the best light. As for Murray's contract, it would be the centerpiece of any argument dealing with the first question on the verdict form: Did AEG Live hire Dr. Conrad Murray?
About the foreperson, some Jackson fans have had questions about him. Two wrote a letter of complaint to the judge, which was later submitted into evidence. The fans asserted that the juror had noticeable eye contact with a female AEG lawyer. Fans interpreted it as flirting, but the judge did not.
"The judge did nothing with regards to the complaint and I don't believe there is much importance that can be placed on that by a third party against this juror," said Edwards.
The jurors who will decide this case are:
Juror No. 1: A white female banker who lives in downtown Los Angeles.
Juror No. 2: A female triage nurse.
Juror No. 3: A t-shirt print businessman from West Los Angeles
Juror No. 4: A Hispanic female customer service representative for AT&T from Whittier.
Juror No. 5: A female software engineer for JPL from Highland Park.
Juror No. 6: A white male high school physical education teacher.
Juror No. 7: A black female UCLA clinical research coordinator from Westchester.
Juror No. 8: An Asian male who works for Baxter Health Care.
Juror No. 9: A retired civil engineer.
Juror No. 10: A black male retired metal worker.
Juror No. 11: A white female retired UCLA cancer researcher.
Juror No. 12: A male DWP employee from East Los Angeles.
Edwards says it's an educated and attentive group. "Certainly they were taking a lot of notes and they were listening to the testimony quite clearly, and I think that's important to both sides," said Edwards
The jury has Monday off. They will resume deliberations on Tuesday.
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Hello everybody. Just a reminder that Jury is taking the day off today. Deliberation resume tomorrow at 9:30 am PT.
Hello everybody. Just a reminder that Jury is taking the day off today. Deliberation resume tomorrow at 9:30 am PT.
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Jurors resume work in Michael Jackson death trial
By Alan Duke, CNN
October 1, 2013
Los Angeles (CNN) -- A high school football coach is leading the jurors who will decide if a concert promoter is liable in the death of Michael Jackson.
The jury in the five-month-long trial has worked only about seven hours since deliberations began Thursday afternoon, since they took Monday off. They return to court Tuesday.
Jackson's mother and children contend AEG Live is responsible for the pop icon's death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised the doctor convicted in his death.
Jackson died of an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol, which Dr. Conrad Murray told investigators he was using to treat the singer's insomnia so he could rest for rehearsals. Murray is set to be released from jail later this month after serving two years for involuntary manslaughter.
The death happened just days before Jackson's comeback tour -- promoted and produced by AEG Live -- was set to debut in London in the summer of 2009.
Question No. 1
The 12 jurors must first answer the question: Did AEG Live hire Murray? The company's lawyers contend Jackson chose Murray, who had treated him for three years as a family physician, but Jackson lawyers argue the promoters chose to negotiate their own contract with the doctor so they could control him.
A so-called "smoking gun" e-mail sent by AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware 11 days before Jackson died said, "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."
The Jacksons also point to a television interview soon after Jackson died in which AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips said AEG Live "hired" Murray.
If jurors say yes to the hiring question, then deliberations turn to the questions of negligence. Were AEG Live executives negligent in dealing with Murray and did their negligence contribute significantly to Jackson's death?
AEG Live lawyers argue they had no way of knowing that Murray -- licensed to practice in four states and never sued for malpractice -- was a risk to Jackson. The singer was a secretive drug addict who kept even his closest relatives in the dark about his use of propofol to sleep, they contend.
Jackson lawyers contend the company's agreement with Murray created a medical conflict of interest that led him to break his Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. Murray, who was $1 million in debt, was pressured to deliver the risky treatments or else possibly lose the $150,000 monthly salary, they argue.
Executives ignored a series of warning signs that Jackson was at risk in his last weeks, including deteriorating health that included weight loss, inability to perform his trademark dances or remember lyrics to his standard songs, and paranoia, the Jacksons argue.
A sleep expert testified that the nightly propofol infusions robbed Jackson of vital REM sleep, which caused the deterioration.
Blame and damages
If jurors reach a decision that AEG Live is liable, then they'll consider other questions to determine how much in damages the promoter must pay Katherine, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson.
Jackson lead lawyer Brian Panish suggested a range between $1 billion and $2 billion to replace the earnings lost by Jackson's death at age 50 and the non-economic -- or personal -- damages from the loss of a father and son.
The damage award, however, would be reduced by the percentage of blame jurors decide Michael Jackson shares in his death. The Jackson lawyer suggested in closing arguments Thursday that they assigned 20% of the liability to Jackson.
Engaged jurors
Jurors appeared engaged and entertained through 21 weeks of the trial, which included dramatic testimony by Jackson's mother, son and former wife. Several jurors even applauded at the end of testimony by famed choreographer-director Kenny Ortega.
Their first notes to the judge Friday indicated that Juror No. 6 had been chosen as presiding juror -- or foreman. He is a high school physical education teacher who heads to the football field after each day of court to coach a team.
They also asked for 12 copies of the written contract AEG Live sent to Murray, a copy of the "This Is It" film -- which documents Jackson's last rehearsals -- and a DVD player.
A Jackson lawyer suggested outside of court that it would be a good sign for his side If deliberations last more than a few days -- since it indicates jurors have moved past the key initial questions.
CNN's camera will be in the courtroom when a verdict is read. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos approved the network's request last week to televise the closing arguments and verdict. She refused a request in April to allow cameras in court for the opening and testimony phase.
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October 1, 2013
Los Angeles (CNN) -- A high school football coach is leading the jurors who will decide if a concert promoter is liable in the death of Michael Jackson.
The jury in the five-month-long trial has worked only about seven hours since deliberations began Thursday afternoon, since they took Monday off. They return to court Tuesday.
Jackson's mother and children contend AEG Live is responsible for the pop icon's death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised the doctor convicted in his death.
Jackson died of an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol, which Dr. Conrad Murray told investigators he was using to treat the singer's insomnia so he could rest for rehearsals. Murray is set to be released from jail later this month after serving two years for involuntary manslaughter.
The death happened just days before Jackson's comeback tour -- promoted and produced by AEG Live -- was set to debut in London in the summer of 2009.
Question No. 1
The 12 jurors must first answer the question: Did AEG Live hire Murray? The company's lawyers contend Jackson chose Murray, who had treated him for three years as a family physician, but Jackson lawyers argue the promoters chose to negotiate their own contract with the doctor so they could control him.
A so-called "smoking gun" e-mail sent by AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware 11 days before Jackson died said, "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."
The Jacksons also point to a television interview soon after Jackson died in which AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips said AEG Live "hired" Murray.
If jurors say yes to the hiring question, then deliberations turn to the questions of negligence. Were AEG Live executives negligent in dealing with Murray and did their negligence contribute significantly to Jackson's death?
AEG Live lawyers argue they had no way of knowing that Murray -- licensed to practice in four states and never sued for malpractice -- was a risk to Jackson. The singer was a secretive drug addict who kept even his closest relatives in the dark about his use of propofol to sleep, they contend.
Jackson lawyers contend the company's agreement with Murray created a medical conflict of interest that led him to break his Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. Murray, who was $1 million in debt, was pressured to deliver the risky treatments or else possibly lose the $150,000 monthly salary, they argue.
Executives ignored a series of warning signs that Jackson was at risk in his last weeks, including deteriorating health that included weight loss, inability to perform his trademark dances or remember lyrics to his standard songs, and paranoia, the Jacksons argue.
A sleep expert testified that the nightly propofol infusions robbed Jackson of vital REM sleep, which caused the deterioration.
Blame and damages
If jurors reach a decision that AEG Live is liable, then they'll consider other questions to determine how much in damages the promoter must pay Katherine, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson.
Jackson lead lawyer Brian Panish suggested a range between $1 billion and $2 billion to replace the earnings lost by Jackson's death at age 50 and the non-economic -- or personal -- damages from the loss of a father and son.
The damage award, however, would be reduced by the percentage of blame jurors decide Michael Jackson shares in his death. The Jackson lawyer suggested in closing arguments Thursday that they assigned 20% of the liability to Jackson.
Engaged jurors
Jurors appeared engaged and entertained through 21 weeks of the trial, which included dramatic testimony by Jackson's mother, son and former wife. Several jurors even applauded at the end of testimony by famed choreographer-director Kenny Ortega.
Their first notes to the judge Friday indicated that Juror No. 6 had been chosen as presiding juror -- or foreman. He is a high school physical education teacher who heads to the football field after each day of court to coach a team.
They also asked for 12 copies of the written contract AEG Live sent to Murray, a copy of the "This Is It" film -- which documents Jackson's last rehearsals -- and a DVD player.
A Jackson lawyer suggested outside of court that it would be a good sign for his side If deliberations last more than a few days -- since it indicates jurors have moved past the key initial questions.
CNN's camera will be in the courtroom when a verdict is read. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos approved the network's request last week to televise the closing arguments and verdict. She refused a request in April to allow cameras in court for the opening and testimony phase.
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@AlanDukeCNN Thanks Alan! Will CNN/HLN be covering the verdict announcement when the jurors come back? #MJFamLove
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by Capricious Anomaly Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:22 pm
Thanks for all the info admin! 
I am on an anxiousness express right now-can't keep still waiting for the verdict!
Love to all and The Jackson Family-stay strong!
I am on an anxiousness express right now-can't keep still waiting for the verdict!
Love to all and The Jackson Family-stay strong!
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Jurors have began day 3 of deliberations. They have worked about 7 hours so far.
Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Jurors have began day 3 of deliberations. They have worked about 7 hours so far.
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The Jackson vs AEG Live jury is back in. They just filed into the deliberations room to begin a new day of deliberations.
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Lots of extra traffic congestion. Many people arrived late for their court hearings today.
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There is a union rally in the streets around the courthouse today. Hundreds, if not thousands, of people are marching.
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By last Friday, jury had worked 6h30mins.
TOTAL SO FAR: 8 hours and 15 minutes
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Jurors have gone to lunch until 1:30 pm PT. Deliberation today was from 9:45 am until 11:30 am -- 1h45 minutes.
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It's an effort to make sure no one approaches them and tries to interfere with their deliberation. So far, everything going very smooth.
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Jury is partially sequestered: they are escorted by 2 sheriffs everywhere they go, specially during lunch time.
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Jury still on lunch break. They have another hour before resuming deliberation.
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Yup! RT @MJLoveIsMagical: We at our #MJ site are happy you're back Anthony! Looking fw to news updates. On verdict watch for the duration?
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Jury back deliberating. They started at 1:04 pm (even though court said they would come back at 1:30p)
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Jury taking a break. Stopped at 3:00 pm PT.
1:04 - 3:00: 1h56 this afternoon. TOTAL SO FAR: 10 hours and 11 minutes
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Jury back deliberating. They started at 3:22 pm PT. Not one question/request today.
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