DAILY ABC Court News Tweets (from the courtroom updated all day long)

by **Admin** Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:13 pm

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~ Update by MJ Mod 7/2/2013 ~

Due to the enormous amount of time that is spent by both Admin and myself working on the court transcripts, WeAreTheWorld. will now be taking over both the ABC tweets and the Anthony McCartney tweets.

These are the jury questionairre questions being tweeted along with courtroom updates-from https://twitter.com/ABC7Courts

NOTE:THE MOST RECENT POST IS THE MOST RECENT TWEET

4/2/13 Tweets

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Question: would you find it difficult to award $0 damages to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member, even if failed to prove?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Question: wound it be difficult to award multi millions of dollars to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Questionnaire: do you have any negative feelings about people who bring lawsuits for monetary damages? Should there be limits on the award?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Questionnaire asks if juror has declared bankruptcy or had major financial problems. It asks about if he person ever felt harassed at work.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Then questionnaire goes into social media, asking if the person has Facebook or twitter. Next is point of view, from conservative to liberal

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Questionnaire asks if juror follows the news and, if so, from where (TV, Internet, radio, etc) It asks if the person has ever written a blog

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Questionnaire asks if juror knows any judges, attorneys, court personnel. Also, it asks about medical conditions and if he/she was ever sued

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Jury questionnaire begins with personal questions: name, date of birth, residency, level of education, employment, jury experience.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Here's a picture of the front page of the jury questionnaire. pic.twitter.com/wO89TLLgPc

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After jurors are qualified based on time, they'll be given a questionnaire. First questions are personal: residency area, level of education

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Everyone now excused for lunch break. We'll be back at 1:30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h This part of jury selection is just excuse for hardship, which means excuse the people who can't serve on a trial for 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attorneys talking to the judge and telling her which jurors they want to jointly dismiss and the ones they want to question further.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Before I forget, kudos to Judge Palazuelos and her staff for being very friendly to everyone present, whether media rep or public members!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The lengthy questionnaire has 25 pages and 123 questions. I'm going over the doc now and will tweet the most relevant questions.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h @Honeytania You're very welcome! Let us know if you have any questions!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Some Michael Jackson fans are in the courtroom as well. Jury selection has been moved to a bigger courtroom to accommodate everyone.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attys for all sides are now looking at the answers provided by the jurors. Once they are qualified for time, they'll answer a questionnaire.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We'll be covering the trial daily and will tweet as much as possible. Judge has denied live tweeting, but that's still under discussion.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge said trial will be Mon-Thu from 9:30 am to noon, 1:30 pm to 4:00/4:30 pm and Fridays 9:00 am to noon, 2:30 to 4:00/4;30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First panel of 35 jurors have been ordered to return at 1:30p to discuss their answer to whether they can serve 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge told potential jurors that trial is estimated to last 90 days. Then, judge asked them to answer whether they can serve that long.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h One panel with 35 potential jurors came into the courtroom to begin the jury selection process. Judge read a statement of the case to them.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We are told Katherine Jackson plans to attend the entire trial, but won't be present until opening statements are set to begin.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge Yvette Palazuelos, who's presiding over the trial, took camera request under submission and will rule on it before opening statement.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, argued against camera, saying it could interfere with the due process and intimidate witnesses.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Brian Panish, atty for Katherine Jackson and the children, argued in favor of cameras. "All we ask is that the truth be seen by everyone."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First on the agenda was a motion brought by the media to ask the judge to allow the trial to be televised, just like in Murray trial.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Good morning everyone. Today the civil trial in the wrongful death of Michael Jackson begins. Katherine Jackson and the kids are suing AEG.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21h HEADS UP: Starting tomorrow, we'll be live tweeting the Jackson lawsuit against promoter AEG in the death of Michael Jackson

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by **Admin** Mon May 13, 2013 2:10 pm

Week 3 (5/13/13)

Still waiting...

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 13, 2013 4:11 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Back in session. Will tweet all the details of Stacy Walker's testimony shortly.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Defendants' atty Jessica Bina did direct examination of Walker. She's choreographer, director. Worked w/ MJ, Gaga, B. Spears, Usher, others

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Defendants' first witness (out of order) was Stacy Walker, the Associate Choreographer for "This Is It" tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 9 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial in full swing. They took witness out of order due to schedule

by **Admin** Mon May 13, 2013 9:40 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19s MJ never told Walker about his health, never discussed Propofol use since they didn't talk about that stuff.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Walker said MJ and her were not friends, they had a work relationship. Walker never went to his house, had dinner or social interaction.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m "He was a huge risk taker, was very innovative as a dancer and choreographer," Walker opined, saying he was an excellent dancer, confident

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Boyle plays clip of film "Ghost". Walker said MJ was pretty impressive, played 5 different roles. "Probably one of the hardest jobs I had."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Walker: I was relieved because he was there, he was going full out. Last 2 rehearsals it was the first time we saw everything come together

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m She also agreed that it wasn't her job 2 supervise Dr. Murray or observe MJ's health. Walker didn't have info if Dr. Murray gave MJ Propofol

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Boyle: And it wasn't your job to look if MJ was sick?
Walker: It was not

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Planitffs attorney Kevin Boyle did the cross examination. Boyle asked Walker if her job was to focus on dancers and not MJ. She said yes.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Walker didn't remember MJ having cold/stomach flu. "I've seen people that were drunk or high and he didn't appear to be that way"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m "I just never in a million years thought he'd leave us," Walker said crying. "I was frustrated but never thought that would happen"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Walker said MJ was the nicest person ever, they were not friends. "Guarded is a strong word, he let people see Michael Jackson, not Michael"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Regarding the "This Is It" tour, Walker doesn't know if MJ was excited. "He always seemed happy, he liked to watch the dancers dance"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Walker said she remembers telling MJ about McDonald's -- he had never been and she told him he had to go.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Walker said she felt MJ was more open this time around. In "Ghost" she said they didn't talk at all, but that he was so nice to everybody

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Travis Payne had a loving, trusting relationship with MJ, Walker testified. Payne would go over to MJ's house around 1p PT to work

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m When asked if Walker was familiar with the name Dr. Conrad Murray, she said yes, but she never met him or knew who he was prior to June 25.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Bina: when you heard MJ passed away, were you surprised? Walker: Yes, it was shocking, 12 hours ago he did "Beat It" and "Thriller"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Walker: "I remember telling them don't worry, everything will be fine. I didn't believe, I thought that everything was going to be ok."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m On Jun 25, Walker was rehearsing Michael's disappearing act. She said Payne called saying he heard on the radio MJ was in the hospital

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Bina: Any doubts he could perform the tour? Walker: Not after those two nights (June 23 and 24)

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Walker said she called her mom after the rehearsal and asked her to buy a ticket for the opening and she did. "It was great."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "He was great, very bratty and sassy as he was. He was just a funny guy at times," Walker said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m When she talked about MJ's last two rehearsals, Walker cried saying he was great. "He was great, I finally saw what I wanted to see."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Walker got emotional when she said she wasn't looking for things that could be wrong w/ MJ at the time. "I wish I was," she said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m "My only concern was that he was really thin and I wish he ate more," Walker recalled.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Jessica Bina: Did you ever see MJ drink any alcohol? Walker: No

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Walker: He wore a lot of jackets, I assumed he was cold but he never said anything. I never saw him shivering. He just wore a lot of jackets

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Walker remembered MJ wearing jackets/layers but didn't think of him being insanely cold. "Different artists like different temperature."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Walker: I remember 1 night he excused himself to his room, wasn't feeling well. He didn't say anything, it was a general understanding

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m "He looked much thinner to me than in 97," she said, but she doesn't remember noticing a dramatic difference between April and June of 09.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Walker said she never saw MJ sick. She said he seemed normal to her, he was much thinner, but she never felt he was acting intoxicated.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m "I wasn't shocked he wasn't coming, I was irritated, but I wasn't shocked," Walker said, noting that maybe MJ wanted to stay with his kids.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Walker: "I can remember being frustrated at times, he (MJ) wasn't coming when we were hoping he would."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m During rehearsals at the Forum, MJ was supposed to be there more often, Walker said. Payne worked w/ MJ, she was in charge of dancers.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Walker said during rehearsals for "This Is It" in April/May 09, MJ was there occasionally, but they were teaching dancers the choreography

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m "Drill" was like a soldier marching dancing, Walker said. "MJ said we can't use guns, since it was not good for the kids," Walker recalled.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Walker said for the "This is It" tour a lot of choreography was done many years ago. The only new was "Drill" and everyone worked together

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Walker said the casting of dancers began in April 2009. She was the associated choreographer, got direction from Payne/Ortega and Michael

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Walker told the jury Travis Payne was the main choreographer for "This Is It." She thinks she was an independent contractor hired by AEG

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Walker didn't remember if MJ had doctor on staff while on History tour. She never saw any signs of drug abuse, saw MJ on stage, amazing!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m History tour: dancers rehearsed by themselves in LA. Then went to France, rehearsed in a studio at Disneyland. MJ showed up one or two times

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m On the "History" tour, Walker worked about 6 months. She was one of the two girls dancer in The Way You Make Me Feel. "I feel it's my song"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Stacy Walker said she 1st worked w/ MJ in 96 on a 40-minute movie, "Ghost." "He never made a music video, only made movies," Walker said.

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 13, 2013 10:34 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m"I don't know what his normal weight would be," Dr. Rogers expressed. He said MJ didn't have a great deal of fat, but there was some

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Dr. Rogers said he didn't find any opiates, opioids, Demerol in MJ's body. He had 1 other case of Propofol overdose, person in medical field

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Dr. Rogers said he had some concerns about drug abuse due to the investigator's report listing all the medications found at the house.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Dr. Rogers said MJ had a bit of degeneration of the lower thoracic spine, degenerative osteoarthritis of lower lumbar. Not sure how painful

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Autopsy report: MJ had lung damage, which wasn't cause of death but madr this individual especially susceptible to adverse health effects.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Cahan: Was his general health excellent? Dr. Rogers: As far as the autopsy goes, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Cahan: Did you rule out starvation as possible Mr. Jackson's cause of death? Dr. Rogers: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m "He looked thin in comparison to most people," Dr. Rogers said. MJ didnt look one who died from starvation or anorexia.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m At the autopsy, Dr. Rogers said MJ weighed 136 lbs, was 5'9. His body mass index was 20.1, which is within the range of normal weight.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Def atty: Did any other doctor, other than Dr. Murray, contributed to MJ's death? Dr. Rogers: Yes, other doctors contributed to his death

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Dr. Rogers said he was uncertain who MJ's primary physician was, he understood he was seeing several doctors.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Dr. Rogers said MJ's doctor, Dr. Murray, made a statement to the police saying MJ wasn't breathing but he felt a faint pulse.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Koskoff: did you find any factors that could impact MJ's long-term survival? Dr. Rogers: From the autopsy, no I did not.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Death was not due to trauma and was not caused by natural disease. "He died of acute Propofol toxicity," Dr. Rogers said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Dr. Christopher Rogers resumed testimony after lunch break. He did MJ's autopsy. Katherine and Rebbie Jackson were not in the courtroom.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Walker: MJ didn't want to change the choreography, it wasn't broken, so why change it? She thought it was going to be a great show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m "I've seen other artists bring chefs, masseuses, trainers sometimes," Walker said. The idea of bringing a doctor on tour didn't surprise her

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Walker said she knew Ortega kept on Michael about eating and thinks they had a massage therapist come in for him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Walker heard MJ had problems with prescription drugs from the press. She also heard about the sleeping problems.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Boyle: Did you ever see MJ covered in blankets watching rehearsal with heaters? Walker: I never saw heaters or blankets.

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 13, 2013 10:42 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Payne said he had meals with MJ. He said MJ's appetite depended on the day.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m "Customarily, we would see each other every day," Payne said. Rehearsal with MJ was scheduled five days a week.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m MJ told Payne he expected him to be in every show. He wanted Payne to take notes to make sure show was as perfect as possible.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Payne said they started rehearsing after the press conference, and stopped the day before MJ died. He spoke with MJ everyday.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Bina shows an email Payne wrote. It said MJ was very persistent about having a torch, a concept that meant a lot to Michael.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m They auditioned 5,000 dancers, MJ chose the final ones. Payne said MJ chose the band director also.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Payne: Everything started with Mr. Jackson, always. As his support team, we would contribute with ideas. MJ had the final word.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m "This is It" was a partnership with AEG. Payne said this new way of doing business would revolutionize the way tours were done.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Payne said he found out that his role would not include dancing, he would choreograph and would be the associate director in "This Is It"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "He looked fine to me healthwise, I thought he was thinner from what I have seen him in the past, but nothing alarming," Payne recalled.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Payne said he knew MJ was excited about the tour and his children, to share this experience with them. Payne met w/ MJ in late March/2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Payne didn't personally meet with MJ until after the press conference announcement. He said he was excited to work with him again.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Payne said he worked with Kenny Ortega for many years. Payne and Ortega were in Vegas when MJ called Ortega asking to work in new project

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Payne said he never saw MJ take drugs, medication or alcohol. "Nothing."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Payne said he knew there were physicians tending to MJ, only ones Payne personally met were Dr. Klein and Debbie Rowe.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Payne: Michael had an incident, appeared to faint, we were asked to leave the theater and were told later the show was not going to happen

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Payne worked with MJ in the "One Night Only" show, one time performance by MJ and dancers in New York. The show never happened.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Payne said MJ rehearsed with the dancers and separately. Dancers would get up to speed in the beginning, MJ was good at giving space 2 learn

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Rehearsals for "History" tour was very extensive, Payne said. He was involved w/ selecting dancers, ideas for costumes and whatever needed

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Payne worked with MJ in "Ghost" in 1995/96, then "History" tour, other tv shows and commercials and culminated with "This Is It."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "In the "Dangerous" tour I was ecstatic! I was working with my idol," Payne described.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m During "Dangerous" relationship with MJ grew. Payne said all he knew pain was an on going issue for MJ since the Pepsi commercial accident

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m The next time Payne worked with MJ was in "Dangerous" tour as dancer and choreographer. Katherine and Rebbie Jackson return to the courtroom

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Payne worked with MJ first time in 1992 as a dancer in the short film "Remember the Times."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Payne worked with Paula Abdul, Brandy, Diana Ross, Mick Jagger, Marilyn Manson, MJ, among others.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Next defendant's witness was Travis Payne -- heard out of order due his schedule. Defendants atty Jessica Bina did direct examination

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 13, 2013 10:49 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m And that wrapped Day 10 of the trial. Payne is expected to last most of the day tomorrow on the stand. See you all then!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m In it, Dr. Murray said he was hired by MJ to be paid by AEG. Plaintiffs said it's hearsay and judge agreed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m After jurors left, Judge Palazuelos said she sustained plaintiffs objection and will not allow defense to use Dr. Murray's intvw w/ LAPD

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m By June 25, Payne said MJ had not developed the goal of singing and dancing at the same time. Payne resumes testimony tomorrow morning.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "MJ told me he wanted to sing all the songs live," Payne said. "He had not done that in the past." Some songs were vocalist tracked 2 assist

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Payne: because there was inconsistency with MJ appearing at the rehearsal, production was concerned they would not meet their goals.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Payne testified that production wanted MJ to be more in attendance with all the cast, rather than just MJ rehearsing by himself at his house

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "He seemed very tired, we all were," Payne said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m "Drill" was the last thing they worked together, Payne said. Michael had a great love for military precision.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Payne said MJ's dancing seemed fine to him. He said they were working on things created decades before to make them age appropriate, dynamic

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 14, 2013 4:29 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Payne said he met Dr. Murray at the Carolwood house. "I was going up the steps, Dr. Murray going downstairs, Michael introduced us."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Payne explained he didn't have much of reason to question Dr. Murray since he thought that a doctor selected to work with MJ was top notch.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Payne said his understanding was that AEG was paying Dr. Murray's salary not Michael. The doctor was there 2 oversee many things, Payne said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Gongaware email: "We want him to understand what is expected of him. He has been dodging Frank so far."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Gongaware email: "... a face-to-face meeting w/ the doctor... We want to remind him that it's AEG not MJ who's paying his salary"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Another part of the same email chain, from Gongaware: "Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Email continues: "Please don't underestimate the need to stay on top of this."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Email continues: "The demand in this guy are mentally and physically extraordinary! The show requirements exhaust our 20 year olds."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Email continues: "Personally, I feel he should have a top Nutritionist and Physical Therapist working with him on a regular basis."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Email continues: "Who is responsible for MJ getting proper nourishment/vitamins/therapy everyday?"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Email continues: "Without invading MJ's privacy, it might be good idea to talk to his doctor to make sure everything MJ requires is in place

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Email continues: "Are Randy and Frank aware of this? Please have them stay on top of his health situation."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Bina shows an email from Ortega to Gongaware on Jun 14: "We're you aware that MJ's doctor didn't permit him to attend rehearsal yesterday?"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Payne said that in April, May, June, MJ missed 5 rehearsals with the whole group. He said one time Ortega sent MJ home.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m "There were times he was tired and had to be not convinced but supported," Payne recalls.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Payne said there was one day when MJ was cold. He thought the frustration had MJ on edge, but he took it that he was fighting a cold.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Payne told the jury he advised MJ he was looking thin and MJ said he was getting down to his fighting weight. "I had no reason to doubt him"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Payne said Mr. Jackson explained to him he had trouble sleeping. He's not sure how much weight MJ had lost.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Payne said he was concerned about MJ missing rehearsals. He didn't know why he wasn't showing up, but MJ was also working on album and book

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Payne said AEG didn't want to pay what he regarded as his standard operating cost. Jackson said to pay him what him and his agent requested

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Travis Payne back on the stand. He's wearing gold wings on the side of his jacket sleeves with the initial "MJ" on them.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Day 11 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial is underway at a downtown LA courthouse. Katherine Jackson and Rebbie are present in the courtroom.

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 14, 2013 11:10 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Panish showed Payne's written contract. It is between Payne and AEG, beginning April 1, 2009. The contract said only AEG could cancel it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Payne started working without a signed contract. This was the first time he was hired by a company other than MJJ. He was being paid by AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "Prior to June, I notice Mr. Jackson was thinner than I recognized him," Payne said, noting he never saw sudden weight change in MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Payne said MJ had hard time picking up some of the material. Email from Ortega to Gongaware: "He has been slow at grabbing hold of the work"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Payne said there was always something for MJ to do. "He needed to come to rehearsal, it was part of the job."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m "We're human, sometimes we make mistakes," Payne explained, saying he's not disputing that MJ was or wasn't there on those dates.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Panish then said on Jun 22 MJ wasn't there either, "wasn't he?" Payne said he didn't know. Panish said MJ was at another doctor's office

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Payne said that on May 19, MJ was having a cyst removed at Dr. Klein's office, so he could not have been rehearsing with Payne.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Panish: Sir, MJ was not with you May 19, 2009, was he? Payne: No Panish: He was at the doctor Payne: If you're saying, I'm not disputing

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Panish confronted Payne saying that yesterday he said he was with MJ at a dance studio on May 19, that they were up on their feet, danced.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Panish asked Payne if defendants' attorney approached him during lunch to show him some documents. He said yes, saw parts of his depo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m Payne got frustrated with Plaintiffs attorney: "I don't have a dog in this fight"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m Payne said he wasn't privy to details of what was expected of Dr. Murray. AEG was producer/promoter, but MJ was the star, had to be happy

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish shows a picture of Payne at the red carpet premiere of "TII" documentary. He agreed he was happy about the premiere.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Were you upset when MJ died? Payne: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I do not remember receiving text message from Karen Faye asking why I was lying to the media," Payne explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if Payne remembers receiving a text message from Karen Faye asking him why he was lying to the media after MJ died.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said this was the first time MJ was not the sole producer of the show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "This was the first time MJ was working with AEG," Payne testified, saying he had always been hired by MJJ production before.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said he wanted MJ to have a physical therapist, nutritionist, massage, have his family around. He said this was a different scenario

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne was hired and paid by AEG. His contract was with AEG. Panish: Who could fire you. AEG? Payne: I'm sure

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Faye was concerned and frustrated how Michael looked. She went to Payne kind of in an aggressive way. Payne told her to report to Ortega.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said Faye and MJ had a long term working relationship. They spent a lot of personal time together.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Karen Faye is a make up artist. She designed the make up, was always there when Michael was there, Payne testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to MJ's relationship with Katherine, Payne said there's no secret MJ loved his mother very much. It is kind of common knowledge

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said he was not aware of the email. He said MJ looked thin, but not skeletal. He doesn't know if Paul/Randy took any the footage out

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Randy to Paul: "Make sure you take out the shots of MJ in that red jacket... He looks way too thin and skeletal."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne always carries a video camera with him and shot videos of rehearsal. AEG took the footage that Payne shot and never returned to him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said he would be proud if MJ was his father and agreed the children suffered a tremendous loss.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Blanket was the most quiet of the 3, Payne said, but was always very close by, in the rehearsal room. Michael guided and mentored him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said Paris was the most vocal of the children, always concerned about things in the house, asked what they wanted 2 eat, handled a lot

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Was Paris a Daddy's girl? Payne: Yes, I believe so

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paris was coming to find out MJ's global success, Payne said, adding that she would bless the food they ate.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said Paris seemed beyond her age, she was the female of the house, had lots of responsibilities, loved it, protective of the family.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to Paris Jackson, Payne said be saw a very protective young lady, smart, astute, with knowledge of the production, very hands on.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Prince wanted to be a director, Michael would point out things to him during rehearsal should that be his career, Payne remembered.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne thought the relationship between MJ and Prince was awesome, Michael was a proud father, great to see how they interacted.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "When we rehearsed, we had meals togethers," Payne recalled, talking about MJ and all three children.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne's impression was that MJ loved being a father. He said he saw the beauty of their relationships, loyalty one another.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne purchased copy of his deposition and watched it prior to coming to testify. He talked to Stacy Walker yest but not about her testimony

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attorney Brian Panish cross examined Payne. He asked if MJ ever performed the entire show from beginning to end. Payne said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said they picked the best of the rehearsal to include in the documentary. He wanted to reshoot some scenes but was not allowed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said the idea was to show the rehearsals and how things came together. The footage himself wasn't altered, but there was editing

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina played clip of "This Is It" from Jun 4 showing the green screen and making of "Drill" and Michael talking about the cool moves, dancing

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne didn't deem MJ being loopy as a problem with drug addiction. He said that from what he observed he was not concerned at all.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said that his understanding was that Michael was undergoing cosmetic procedures so he could feel great and do a good job.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne mentioned one day in particular at a meeting with Andre Crouch and singers, MJ seemed a little out of it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne also said he appeared groggy in the morning sometimes, which he attributed to lack of sleep.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h He recalled Michael being under the influence of something; said it happened mostly when MJ would come to rehearsals after seeing Dr. Klein

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said he never saw MJ drink alcohol or take medication. "Sometimes, in rehearsal, Michael would appear just a little loopy," though

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h " I remember him (Kenny Ortega) collapsing in his seat and crying," Payne testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said Ortega got a series of calls. He remembers Kenny say 'tell me something that will make me know it's you and that this is true'

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "We were optimistic of his arrival," Payne said explaining they were expecting MJ to rehearse at the Staples Center.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne heard news on the radio, called Staples Center spoke to Stacy Walker, she said they were rehearsing. He was told to go to Staples

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne described the day MJ died: He was headed to rehearsal at MJ's home, got a call from his mother who said she saw reports on the news

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I thought he was in his way to the goals he set himself," Payne told the jury. He didn't have any question that MJ would be able to perform

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne said the performance would float, some days were good, some days were not good. The last two days were good.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He was having his process, I didn't expect him to be like he would in front of a crowd," Payne explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h On June 23/24, as to how MJ performed, Payne though it was in process, not at show standards, but MJ was rehearsing.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h On June 19, Payne said he believed he was looking at someone who had blankets and heater. No one else was cold. He had flu-like symptoms.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Payne was coming up from the basement to the middle floor. Studio was at the basement. Payne said he never went 2 the top floor of the house

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 14, 2013 11:16 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m That wraps Day 11 of the trial. Have a great night (or morning) everyone.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Judge Yvette Palazuelos has doctor appointment on Thursday morning. Jury returning in the afternoon, lawyers late morning to discuss motions

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m With that Payne ended his testimony as was excused. Trial resumes only on Thursday afternoon. Court is dark tomorrow, a juror has a funeral

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Payne believed the doctor needed to assure comfort of the star so they could have productive rehearsals.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m As to Gongaware's email, Payne said he took to understand that Mr. Jackson needed to have proper nourishment, care, masseuse.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Payne's understanding was that Dr. Murray was to provide what the artist needed, as far as nourishment, rest.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Payne said he saw MJ cold once at his house, MJ asked him to feel his hands, another at Staples -- MJ was wrapped in a blanket, w/ heaters

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m In re-cross, Panish notes that none of MJ's brothers are part of this lawsuit.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Payne says neither Katherine Jackson nor Michael's children were present at the premiere of "This Is It."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Payne cried saying he had been through so much and the rough part was behind them. He was pleased to show the fans what the show was to be

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Payne said Jermaine was at the premiere. Bina shows pic of Payne and Jermaine shaking hands; pic of Jermaine, Kenny, Tito, Jackie, Marlon

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m "I had a concern we needed to create a show Michael would enjoy doing it," Payne explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m "Production felt he wasn't coming to rehearsals enough, and that was frustrating to some of the staff," Payne testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Payne never discussed with MJ about his doctors or personal affairs. Payne and Faye were professionals with each other, but not friends.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Payne said he thought Dr. Murray was there to care for his patient, making sure right nutritionist was there, to get him ready for the show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m As to Gongaware email regarding what was expected of Dr. Murray, Payne said the inconsistencies with MJ missing rehearsals warrant a talk

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Payne said MJ was present a significant amount of the days he was scheduled to work.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Bina in re-direct asked: Do you think you could get him there? Payne: Absolutely!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Payne cried when he said he never doubted MJ and that part of his responsibility was to help getting him there, ready for the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Payne said he had not seen MJ in the condition he saw him on June 19. Last two days were better.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Payne said he could sense something was wrong, but didn't know what it was.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Panish: Did you see that MJ was getting pressured to get everything done in the last days? Payne: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Payne said MJ was not ready, it was not the MJ he knew. He died four days later. But he didn't see anything that alarmed him on June 23/24

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Panish: Around June 20, was Ortega in the mindset that MJ was not ready for this? Payne: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Payne knows of one incident, June 19 at the Forum, where MJ had to be wrapped around in a blanket and be in front of a heater.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m Panish showed a picture of MJ on June 24 rehearsing Thriller. Payne said MJ improved but was not at his best yet.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Payne went to MJ's house on June 20. He was cold and had to light the fireplace and rub his hand and feet to warm himself up.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Payne was aware that AEG was considering in mid June pulling the plug on the show. He said MJ looked exhausted and paranoid on Jun 19

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Email cont'd: "His voice sounds amazing right now, he just needs to bring it back up."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Email cont'd: "Once he's healthy enough and has more strength I have full confidence he can sing the majority of the show live."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Panish showed an email from the band leader. "MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Payne said most it the time, MJ was present at rehearsals. "It wasn't s big deal," he expressed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Payne remembers at the Culver Studios in Smooth Criminal there was a stunt and Misha was asked to jump thru glass plate.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Some of the scenes in the documentary are with the body double, Payne testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Payne said a body double was requested for MJ. Misha Gabriel was MJ's body double, but shorter than him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m Payne agreed that it was very unusual for MJ to have TelePrompTer with the lyrics of his own songs. He never used it before.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Michael asked for the TelePrompTer, he didn't want to make any mistake, 2 refresh his memory. Also to use for sequence of songs, Payne said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Panish asked if MJ knew the lyrics of his songs. "I think he did, he knew most of them, but he wanted to have a TelePrompTer for safety"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "He was losing weight, he was sore, working up his stamina. Lack of sleep and proper nourishment were starting to show," Payne explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Payne learned what Demerol was after MJ died. He also remembers a mention of Demerol in the song "Morphine".

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Payne said that he thought MJ was under some type of sedative after the came back from Dr. Klein's office; he would have cosmetic work done

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Payne said some people were concerned about the goals not being met, including Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Payne felt that the reason MJ was groggy was because he was getting some sort of sleeping medication. "He just seemed assisted"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m "He was not in great physical shape and was sore," Payne said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Payne was aware that MJ was losing weight during rehearsals and he had not seeing him lose weight like that before.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Payne saw MJ tired and fatigued. He agreed that those symptoms could be signs of drug addiction.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "In the moment I had no inkling of what was revealed after Mr. Jackson passed," Payne said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Payne said they received 5,000 applications for dancers, about 2,000 showed up 4 the audition. He didn't know how many doctors AEG screened

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Payne knew MJ had sleeping problems and that Dr. Murray was treating him for that. Ortega also knew; Payne thought Gongaware was aware too

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Payne said he felt that Dr. Murray didn't look like a doctor to him and didn't feel he was an official doctor who should be working for MJ

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Second time Payne saw Dr. Murray was the night before MJ died at Staples Center. "I wanted Michael to go home and go to sleep" Payne recalls

by Capricious Anomaly Wed May 15, 2013 12:05 pm

Thanks MJ Mod and Admin for all these tweets every court day! It makes it so much easier than tryin to follow tweets on their twitter when you are so busy during the day. Especially when they tweet so sporadically and never at the same time everyday!

by **Admin** Wed May 15, 2013 12:35 pm

REMINDER: No court today-here are the tweets from last night as to why:

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13h Judge Yvette Palazuelos has doctor appointment on Thursday morning. Jury returning in the afternoon, lawyers late morning to discuss motions

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13h With that Payne ended his testimony as was excused. Trial resumes only on Thursday afternoon. Court is dark tomorrow, a juror has a funeral

by **MJ Mod** Thu May 16, 2013 6:39 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Wooley came back to work in the "This Is It" tour. Hollander is not aware of Wooley still working for AEG. Last year he did a project

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Hollander said that in 2009 Wooley was more than just a tour accountant. She stopped reporting to Wooley in 2002, when he left the company.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m First part of her testimony was explaining who hired her (Timm Wooley) and what a CEO/CFO does. She works for AEG Live, under AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Julie Hollander, AEG's VP of Controller and Event Operation, is currently on the stand. Jackson's attorneys called her as adverse witness.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Afternoon session about to start with jurors back in the courtroom.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The statement is Dr. Murray saying he's employed by MJ but paid by AEG. Judge said the employment is one of the issues for the jury 2 decide

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG attorneys were not able to convince judge that the statement would be useful for the jury. Judge said statement is ambiguous.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Judge then discussed her tentative ruling to not allow Dr. Murray's statement made to the police to be used. She said it's hearsay.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG said they also want copies of the emails and never objected to the material being produced.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h If it's proven they didn't, it could be a problem for AEG's attorney. Everyone is on standby.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Jackson's attorneys want to make sure AEG turned over all the email conversations AEG had with everyone about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli said he will give a status of the work completed to both counsels by next Tuesday. He also said AEG's attys don't rep Mrs. DiLeo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish suggested to get a technical person agreeable to both sides to go over the computer with Regoli, who would be the gatekeeper

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli says the emails may contain personal things so he promised to go thru the emails and turn over all the emails related to this case

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli said he was told family gave the computer away after they got it back. Regoli thinks it went to her daughter's friend who needed it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli said Mrs. DiLeo asked him to review the subpoena by Katherine Jackson's attorney, go thru the emails and produce anything relevant

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli told the court he saved the entire file, with all of the emails, the whole inbox from DiLeo's computer. It's about 2GB of material.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli said said he did have DiLeo's computer and while going through his the emails for another purpose, he made a working copy of them.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Regoli says he sent the computer back to Mrs. DiLeo in September, at that time she terminated his representation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Judge Palazuelos called David Regoli, the attorney representing Mrs. DiLeo. Regoli said he made a copy of DiLeo's emails.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Katherine Jackson's attorneys want to review the emails. They believe there may be discussions between DiLeo and AEG about MJ/his health

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The hearing was regarding production of emails contained in Michael Jackson's former manager, Frank DiLeo, computer. DiLeo died in 2011.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Judge Yvette Palazuelos held a hearing this morning without the presence of the jurors.

by **MJ Mod** Thu May 16, 2013 9:18 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m We're wrapping coverage for today. Hope to see everybody again tomorrow! See ya!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Dr. Brown is Propofol expert from Harvard. Since he's coming from out of town, they are accommodating his schedule. Hollander resumes after

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m That ended session for today, Day 12 of trial. Plaintiffs will take witness out of order tomorrow. They will call Dr. Emery Brown first.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m On April 30, 2009, Panish showed a document with $300,000 budgeted for management medical.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Panish showed the jury the budget from 5/16/09 for 27 shows: Management Medical --300,000; 450,000; 750,000 Total: $1.5MM to pay Dr. Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Hollander: I talked to Mr. Wooley about the inclusion of Dr. Murray in the budget. I talked to Mr. Trell as to the conditions he'd be paid

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Memo: MJ wishes to have permanent physician available on call thru pre-tour/operational period. There are 2 months at $150K newly budgeted

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Hollander said she did not know who negotiated the compensation for Dr. Murray. He was the only doctor budgeted for the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Panish: Do you know if AEG ever performed a background check on Dr. Murray? Hollander: I'm not aware of anything in that regard

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Panish showed email from 5/18/09 from Hollander to Wooley: "Were in process of quickly putting together urgent re-forecast for Mr Anschutz"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Panish: AEG advanced money to MJ, is that right? Hollander: Yes, it was an advance, recoupable in some capacity

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m Brian Panish shows Hollander a large binder with 80 documents she reviewed to refresh her recollection.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Panish: For London there was more than 1 million dollars in the budget to pay Dr. Murray, right? Hollander: I don't recall a figure of $1MM

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Hollander: There was $300,000 listed on the budget for Dr. Murray, yes. That budget was approved by Mr. Gongaware.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Hollander said that if all the terms of the contract were met and remained consistent, Dr. Murray would be paid retroactively from May 1, 09

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 54m Hollander said she used the term draft because the contract was not fully executed. Fully executed means all partied signed the contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m "Timm Wooley advised me that Dr. Murray was being engaged at the request of the artist," Hollander testified, saying contract with AEG Live

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m Panish: you don't know whether Dr. Murray was performing services for MJ? Hollander: I don't know, I can't say for sure, not me, personally

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 56m She agreed she saw Dr. Murray's contract, but says it was un-executed, since it was not signed by all parties.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 57m Hollander: "My understating was that Dr. Murray was part of the budget, is listed on the budget for the tour at the request of the artist."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m Hollander: "My role was to execute payments pursuing to executed contracts."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58m "We had situations where contracts were signed later," Hollander said. "Due to abrupt end of the tour the contracts were being negotiated."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 59m Hollander said the company had a policy manual saying payment would be predicated upon the execution of the contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Other budgeted costs: traveling for people involved, housing for some people involved and insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander said budget was the costs expected to incur in the tour with developing the shows, taking show on the road, getting gear to London

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander said she didn't prepare the budgets for TII tour. Wooley did. She reported the budget primarily to Paul Gongaware

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander was responsible for the financial/accounting for "This Is It" tour. She estimated she worked on about 20 tours --several concerts.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I'm responsible for making sure the books are maintained for the tours," Hollander described. The book is an electronic accounting system.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander said she was responsible for overseeing 'the books' (accounting term) for anything related to the project "This Is It."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander reviewed dozens of emails, exhibits and her deposition. She doesn't know how many emails she saw, but estimated between 20-40.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hollander says she reports directly to the CFO. She is in charge of financial report and accounting for the events produced by AEG Live

by **Admin** Fri May 17, 2013 3:51 pm

WEEK 3 (5/17/13)

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26s Plaintiff played a video deposition of Marty Hom, defense expert witness. He's been in the music industry 25-30 years.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Judge says she appreciated the efficiency of the attorney, but things happen from time to time in a trial.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Judge Yvette Palazuelos told jury they have a wrinkle. They'd play video deposition of a witness, but next scheduled witness fell thru

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Panish told the judge he planned on calling AEG's Shawn Trell today, but AEG said he wasn't available. As result, jury had 4hrs lunch break

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Panish told @ABC7 he thought Dr. Brown's testimony wasn't going to add anything new to the jury.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Plan was to call Dr. David Brown to testify, a Propofol specialist, but plaintiffs' attorney, Brian Panish, changed his mind.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 13 of trial in Jackson Family vs AEG under way. Katherine Jackson and Rebbie in the courtroom

by **Admin** Fri May 17, 2013 4:07 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h That concluded Hom's video deposition shown to jury. Judge recessed trial for 4hrs. AEG's controller Julie Hollander resumes testimony next

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hom said he works for an artist, he's hired and paid by the artist, promoters have no say on his contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hom said he knew the Rolling Stones have physician on tour, Blink-182 also had doctors on tour, but he didn't know what their agreements are

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hom said he would ask the doctor questions to determine what kind of condition the artist/dancer would be and his capability to do the tour

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Hom said he'd like to work with AEG Live in the future, not for them. He said the promoters don't have any saying on who hires him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Hom said he had no opinion whether the defendants hired Dr. Murray. Hom never talked with Phillips, Gongaware or Wooley about MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Boyle: Would you hire a doctor to be feeding the chemical dependency of the artist? Hom: I would not

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Boyle: Would you ever hire a doctor to give an opiate-dependent artist Demerol? Hom: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Hom said he wasn't aware of promoter/producing ever paying artist personal manager. Plaintiff says they have evidence AEG paid MJ's manager

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Hom said he's never seen a draft agreement between promoter/producer and a doctor. He's been in the business for 30 years.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Hom said that Dr. Murray asking for $5 million raised a red flag. "It's outrageous."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Hom said AEG ended up hiring someone else to be Rolling Stones' tour manager.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Hom said he was pretty busy this year, but since it's the Rolling Stones, be would like to throw his resume in the pot.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Timm Wooley contacted Hom earlier this year to ask if he would be willing to be the tour manager for the Rolling Stones show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Hom said he needs to know if artist can perform and/or for how long he needs to be on leave. That's why he'd ask doctor status of the artist

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hom said he didn't see a problem asking the doctor questions. It's up to the physician to set the limits, he opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Hom: Is it appropriate? I don't know, but it's a question I have to ask for best interest of the show. I think it's a legitimate question.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Hom said he never injected himself in doctor-patient relationship. He said he didn't believe it was appropriate 4 concert promoters to do it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Boyle asked if Hom knew Kenny Ortega. Hom said yes. Boyle asked if Ortega would ever falsely sound alarm about artist health. Hom said no

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m "The doctor should look for the best interest of the artist," Hom opined, "I'd never put artist on stage if it wasn't for his best interest"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Hom said he hired doctors in individual cities when artist was ill, wanted B12 shots, crew was sick. Hom said the tour paid the doctor.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Hom said he's seen artists travel w/ physical therapists, masseuses, cooks, but he's not been on tour where artist takes doctor on the road

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Hom: They just wanted me to testify in general scope on what I do for living. I think they were looking for someone who knew the tour biz

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Hom told the atty he didn't know what an expert witness makes. He was told they make between $400 - $500 an hour. They settled on $500/hour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Hom said defendant's attorney called him asking if he'd be interested in being an expert witness in this case. Hom thought about it, agreed

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hom said he worked w/ Janet Jackson and met Mrs. Jackson as well. "I probably know everyone in the business, this is a very small business"

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 58s Jacksons attorney Kevin Boyle asked if Hom's friendship with Phillips and Gongaware, defendants in the case, would sway his testimony.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51s Hom said he's never worked w/ Paul Gongaware. He knows him for many years, ran into each other all the time. He considers Gongaware a friend

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m The music business in general is very small, Hom said, and Randy Philips used to manage a former client of his, Lionel Richie.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Hom said he worked with Phillips and AEG Live once in the Bette Midler Tour in Las Vegas. Hom has no social relationship with Phillips.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Live Nation and AEG Live are the biggest companies in the business, Hom said. He's been friends with Randy Phillips for probably 10 years.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Hom said his role changes from one tour to the next. He has to adapt quickly to the artist's need, since they are just very different.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m The artist is usually who hires and pays him, Hom said. He gets a check from the artist. Hom doesn't know if MJ was paying Gongaware.

by **MJ Mod** Fri May 17, 2013 7:47 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29s Panish: If the $300,000 was supposed to be advance for MJ to be repaid, it would be under category "Artist's Advances". Hollander agreed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Hollander said she did not see a contract with Dr. Murray signed by AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Panish shows a pre-production budget vs what was paid. Dr. Murray still appears budgeted on 7/1/09 for $300,000.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Hollander said AEG had to pay those costs pursuant to the terms of the contract for the tour, as advance payment.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Gongaware response on June 19, 2009: "I agree with Timm's allocation and the charges. Approved"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m MJ: Pays for additional furniture, staffing, security, nanny, food.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25s AEG pays for 3 of the local houses: Bush, Faye and Murray (wardrobe dresser, make-up/hair & personal physician).

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m AEG pays for entertainment arcade & bowling alley because of precondition in terms of what MJ needed at the house as and part of the bargain

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Wooley wrote on June 18, 2009: "I've prepared what I think it's an equitable division if expenses between MJ and The Tour."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m On 6/18/09, Hollander received email from Brigitte Segal, who worked on the tour for the estimated cost 4 some living arrangements in London

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Budget prepared by Wooley, approved by Gongaware showed "Management Medical" and amounts to be paid to Dr. Murray are listed "Per Contract"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Panish shows Pre-Tour Cost Projection from 5/20/09 where AEG was to pay Dr. Murray $300,000. It was pursuant to the contract, Panish said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Hollander said she knew it through the press. She doesn't have recollection of specifically providing information for an insurance claim.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Panish said $36 million was spent in MJ's project. He asked if Hollander knew AEG filed claim against Lloyds of London 2 collect insurance

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Hollander says she knew Tohme was terminated before MJ died, therefore had no legal power to sign on his behalf.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m As to Tohme Tohme, Hollander knows who he is, but is aware that at some point he was released from duties as MJ's manager.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m From time to time, Mr. Gongaware asked Hollander to expedite payment, she testified. He's an impatient person, vendors are important to him

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m The amount for the wigs was $11,500, which Hollander said it's a nominal amount, thus there's no need for contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m email cont'd: "She bought three wigs for use in the tour and one of them is going to be used for his final rest."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Email from 6/30/09 from Randy Phillips to Holland: "This is from Karen Faye who did MJ's hair and make up...."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Panish shows email from 8/4/09 showing another vendor who negotiated contract after MJ died and got paid for prior services.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Panish shows email from 7/10/09 asking Hollander to sign a tour contract so vendor could get paid. Hollander signed it after MJ had died.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m "People commence work before their contract is executed, yes" Hollander said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Hollander said AEG renegotiated contracts after MJ died to mitigate the burden on MJ's Estate.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Hollander said there were people who had contracts renegotiated after MJ's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Panish said people did the work before MJ died, but got paid after the died. Hollander said she didn't recall specifics.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Standard company police is that no payments are made without fully executed contract, Hollander said. The contract could get executed later.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Panish asked Hollander if people worked for AEG without fully executed contracts. She said yes, they may start work in general terms.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Hollander said her job was to facilitate payments and sometimes she approved payment as well.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Panish showed Hollander a document from April 30, 2009. It shows management medical for $300,000.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Brian Panish continued examination of AEG's controller Julie Hollander. She said she had lunch with AEG attorneys today.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Jury entered the courtroom at 2:41pm PT. Neither Katherine not Rebbie Jackson were present for the afternoon session.

by **MJ Mod** Fri May 17, 2013 8:15 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m That wraps up Day 13 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial. Hope you have a great weekend! See you all Monday!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Court recessed until Monday. Hollander resumes testimony in the morning, then AEG's general counsel Shawn Trell takes the stand.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Hollander said she never saw a version of Dr. Murray's contract signed by AEG or MJ. AEG never paid Dr. Murray, Hollander said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m "My role (in TII tour) was to make sure the items created were in line with the budget made," Hollander described.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Hollander: Tour manager maintains the budget, negotiates some of the vendor's contract, may be involved in mitigating tax exposure.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m "I was instructed that no payments were to be made until MJ signed the contract," Hollander said, due to the personal nature of the services

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "Mr. Murray was requested by the artist, and that was my understanding," explained Hollander.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m "My understanding was that Mr. Jackson had asked to include Dr. Murray in the tour personnel," Hollander explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m She testified that only the contract that had been drafted for Dr. Murray required Michael Jackson's signature.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m In the "This Is It" tour, Hollander said she had contracts with staging, lighting, choreographers, sound equipment, etc.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Hollander said that if something is on the budget, it means it was planned to be paid. But things changed very often.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m But if the tour went forward, MJ was responsible for repayment of 95% of the costs and AEG would pay 5%.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Hollander testified that MJ was responsible for 100% of the production costs should the concert not go forward.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Hollander explained what advance meant, it was like cash advance and, depending on the contract, it would be paid back by the artist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m It was also the first time she saw AEG Live pay for an artist's personal physician, Hollander said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Hollander said that "This Is It" tour was the first time she saw the situation where AEG Live hired a physician for the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Panish: Dr. Murray was supposed to be paid $150,000 per month, correct? Hollander: Yes, according to the un-executed contract

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 20, 2013 4:21 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21s "Acting as producer you get more money than just as promoter, right?" Panish asked. Hollander agreed, saying they have earning potentials.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32s Panish: Do you have any understanding whether Dr. Murray expected to get paid? Hollander: Only along those lines, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52s Hollander said she looked through materials at work and it refreshed her recollection. Panish said he wants to see the list of tours.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Panish asked Hollander how it was that she testified last week she worked in 20 concerts and today she said it was more than 100.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Panish: You don't know whether the artist was suppose to approve the cost while it was incurred and not after his death, correct?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Hollander said the Michael Jackson Estate approved the cost of the tour expenses incurred by AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m AEG Live is more promoter than producers of shows, Hollander said. They promoted upwards of 100 tours, produced only few, she testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Hollander said tour promoters don't get involved in what it takes to actually put the show together. The artist does.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m Hollander said there's a policy against paying people without fully executed contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Panish asked Hollander if there's written policy against someone working for AEG without executed contract? She said she isn't aware of any

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Panish questioned Hollander about Dr. Murray's company and she said it was a LLC in Nevada. "Do you know what GCA is? Does it sell

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "I know in my experience it's not typical for a promoter or producer to hire a doctor," Hollander said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "I've never been involved in a tour where AEG hired a doctor," Hollander said. "It's never happened before."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m "I was told it was put in there at the request of the artist," Hollander said. Panish asked if MJ had to approve $150K payment for Dr Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m "If this version had been signed by everybody, would've been final," Hollander said. The contract was from 5/1/09 until the end of TII tour

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Panish: Is it your experience people sign draft agreements? Hollander: My experience is that until everyone signs, it can be changed

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m "In my experience, a draft is a term used to describe an agreement that has not been signed by all parties involved," Hollander explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Panish shows Dr. Murray's contract and asked Hollander if anywhere in the agreement is says this was a draft agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Contract: promoter shall make advanced to cover mutually-approved production costs up to but not exceeding $7.5 million.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m But all the estimates include payment for Dr. Murray, Panish asked. "That's what shows in this paper," Hollander responded.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Panish: You didn't pay Dr. Murray, did you? Hollander: No Panish: That's why it's not there (on doc shown) Hollander: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Hollander didn't know the per diem schedule, so she said she didn't know the answers.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Panish: Budget and actual payment for rehearsals per diem were different because Mr. Jackson died, correct? Hollander: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Panish: Do you know what that $18,000 is for? Hollander: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m In re-cross, Panish asked Hollander if it was true that public relations was not paid $18,000 because MJ died. She said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Budget Total: Budget: $22,228,000 Actual: $24,835,011

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Management Medical Budget:$300,000 Actual: Zero Public Relations Budget: $18,000

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Rehearsal Per Diems: Budget: $175,000 Actual: Zero Actual: $89, 751 Rehearsal Facilities: Budget: $871,000 Actual: $1,553,558

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Next document Bina showed a comparison of Budget v. Actual expenses as of Oct. 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Bina showed Hollander report she prepared on 10/21/09 that was sent to MJ's Estate with the costs incurred as advances for the TII tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Hollander explained that budget is a tool where you plan your future expenses. The book documents the actual expenses incurred.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Hollander said she has never seen an agreement where the artist had to sign off on a contract for services.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Hollander says Dr. Murray could only be paid after the contract was fully executed, including signature of MJ, due to nature of the service

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Contract: Dr. Murray represented he's licensed cardiologist practicing in Las Vegas an that he acts as the Artist's general practitioner

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Based on the contract, Hollander said payment for Dr. Murray should be to GCA, the doctor's employer.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Hollander said AEG never paid Dr. Conrad Murray because the contract had not been fully executed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Each member of the crew, dancers, musicians had an agreement as to weekly payment, Hollander explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Jessica Bina resumed re-direct of AEG Controller Julie Hollander.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Judge Yvette Palazuelos admonished the audience that no one is allowed to talk to jurors. Someone approached one of them. Big No, No!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Katherine Jackson present in the courtroom, wearing a bright purple jacket, accompanied by Rebbie, wearing black jacket with floral details

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Hello for the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 14 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial is underway. We're now at lunch break.

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 20, 2013 5:31 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m The report indicated around $30 million had been spent on the production of the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m "This report was sent to the Estate as an accounting and an effort to recoup the money based on the agreement," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Panish showed an AEG Live letter written to MJ's Estate with costs incurred for the tour. It was signed by AEG's CFO.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Panish asked if AEG Live sent a letter to MJ's Estate after he died trying to recoup money. Trell said he didn't recall.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Panish said the witnesses he will spend most time on are Randy Phillips, Paul Gongaware and Shawn Trell.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Panish said Trell has been designated in 24 categories as having knowledge and being the most qualified to speak on behalf of AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m Outside the presence of the jury, Jessica Stebbins Bina said there are about 200,000 pages of documents.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Trell said he's confident he turned over all the material requested of AEG Live.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Trell said he never heard that Randy Phillips spoke with DreamWorks about producing a MJ movie.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Trell said he was involved in drafting the agreement, but in his deposition, he said he had drafted it himself.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 51m Panish: Did you enter in a contract with Mr. Jackson for TII tour? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 52m Trell said he produced all the materials LAPD asked of him. Panish asked if he turned over only one email, and he said he didn't recall.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Lunch break is almost over. Court to resume with Trell on the stand.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell was interviewed by LAPD. "I think they were interested in what we knew about Dr. Murray," she testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he never discussed with Tim Leiweke, former AEG's CEO, about MJ. Leiweke is no longer with AEG, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he's aware MJ wanted to produce films and Anschutz has a film company. He wasn't aware that MJ and Anschutz met about TTI movie

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Marvin Putnam and Trell went to Georgetown Law School together, but only realized they went to same school after trial started.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I'm the client's representative in the court," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he met with defendants attys for a few hours Saturday and Sunday, reviewed documents to refreshed his recollection.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Shawn Trell is the Senior Vice President and General Counsel for AEG Live for 10 years. He's been with the company for 13 years.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Katherine Jackson's attorneys called Shawn Trell as next witness. Brian Panish doing questioning, Trell is an adverse witness.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Julie Hollander was then excused subject to recall if needed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "My estimates was 20 tours up until 2009," Hollander said. From 09 to today, she said it's upward of 100.

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 20, 2013 9:27 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Were you speaking with Taylor about MJ being sick on the day he died? Trell: I don't recall speaking with Mr. Taylor on the 25th

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: You made the claim the night MJ died, didn't you? Trell: I don't recall the date; it wasn't Jun 25th when I sent letter to Taylor

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he was looking for other options to cover the gap for what had already been spent. AEG made a claim on the insurance, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Two days before MJ died, Trell asked broker for longer insurance coverage: "Term insurance is a reference to a form of life insurance"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish said the amount of coverage was the maximum the underwriters were willing to cover, Trell agreed; it was effective April/early May

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish showed email from Gongaware to the insurance broker on June 24, 2009: "Dr. Murray can comment on the availability of the records."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Given the hour MJ died, Trell said he thinks he was not on the phone with Bob Taylor negotiating more insurance for MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: You were working on getting insurance on the day MJ died, weren't you sir? Trell: I don't recall

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It was important to get that medical done," Trell testified. He said policy would kick in on death, but not illness.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Wooley to Trell and Phillips: "We have no coverage against MJ sickness unless and until MJ submits to another medical in London."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if Trell sought life insurance on MJ where they would be the beneficiaries. "An inquire of that was made to Mr. Taylor."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Dr. Murray was asked later to help with these answers. "It was thought that he might be of some help."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he doesn't know whether this email with the requests was ever sent to MJ's people.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish showed email from the insurance broker to AEG execs with several question: details of coverage required, if artist had doctor on tour

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: the insurance wanted additional medical exams because they were concerned, weren't they? Trell: I have no idea

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he never saw a request for a second medical exam in any tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "The policy was otherwise issued, but this was to add illness," Trell said. They required 2nd examination in London; wanted to see rehearsal

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he learned through Taylor they wanted to get a number of years about MJ medical history. "They were concerned he had skin cancer"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he never saw Dr. Slavit's report, or any other report, regarding MJ's physical exam; didn't know what kind of doctor he was.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h An email shows Trell inquired if it was really necessary to incur $10K in expense to get the medical exam completed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell testified that it was the broker's belief that without physical exam there would be no way to get insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The payment of the doctor was going to be 50/50 between the insurance broker and AEG, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he asked the question why insurance broker had chosen Dr. Slavit in NY and not a doctor in LA.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish shows a document where MJ was required to have a physical exam so broker could take the results to the insurance companies.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bob Taylor is an insurance broker, Trell said, and Lloyds of London is one of the underwriters of the type of insurance they were seeking.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h On 5/5/09, MJ wrote: "At my direction and effective immediately, Dr. Tohme Tohme is no longer authorized to represent me in any capacity"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "MJ didn't authorize, so it wasn't going to get paid," Trell said, explaining he learned it either from Randy Phillips or Frank DiLeo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Subsequently, I learned Mr. Jackson had not approved the payment," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Tohme was not paid. "That was because there were some conditions in the agreement not met."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he didn't know who came up with the $100K figure to pay Mr. Tohme. "AEG was facilitating an agreement between MJ and Dr. Tohme."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he drafted the agreement that Mr. Tohme was going to be paid by AEG as part of production cost. "We were making that payment."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Mr. Tohme represented to him he was representing MJ. "I had no reason not to believe him," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I had nothing in writing," Trell said about Tohme representing MJ. "Presumably they could've objected if they felt it wasn't true."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell is registered as in-house counsel for AEG. He's never taken the CA bar test.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: are you license to practicing law in CA? Trell: no, not in all aspects

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said there was nothing in writing saying Mr. Tohme was an officer of MJ's company. He said Mr. Tohme verbalized it to him, though.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish explained the letter was to get confirmation of all the money spent so AEG could recoup the money spent.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The letter was drafted on June 28, 2009, 3 days of MJ's death. "I wouldn't characterize it as trying to get the monies back," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: After MJ died, you drafted an agreement to approve productions costs? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to non-appearance insurance, Trell said he got insurance for $17.5 million.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I don't know when I became aware the production cost exceeded $7.5 million," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The development of a tour is a fluid thing, there were conversations between our side and MJ's side all the time, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h By the time they spent $35 million, tickets were already been sold, Trell said and they knew tour was sold out.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "There's an inherent risk in any commercial undertaking," Trell said. It wasn't a sure thing that AEG would get back the $35 million spent.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As of June 2009, Trell said AEG was not sure the extent of Jackson's assets to secure the interests of the company.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish shows a document with AEG Mission Statement. One of bullet points is "to create land maximize revenue streams."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After lunch break, Panish asked Trell is AEG was getting 5% as producer and 10% as promoter of the show, and he said yes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if Dr. Murray was listed in every budget after May 8, 09: "He was listed incorrectly as production cost," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "This was the only time we paid a personal manager," Trell testified. AEG Live's producer's fee: 5 percent of net tour income.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish asked if AEG Live ever had a contract that included pay for artist's personal manager's salary: "I don't recall one."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said Tohme Tohme was acting as MJ's manager at the time and was to be paid no more than $100,000.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG was to assist MJ to get $15 million in credit line, or would advance the money, so MJ could buy a house in Las Vegas, Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said MJ was already in the house at Carolwood when they entered into the agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h MJ was given $5 million in advance: $3 million was to pay settlement of a lawsuit, $100,000/month for Carolwood house lease.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h AEG never paid Dr. Murray. "To me, it was a mistake," Trell said about including payment to Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The report included $300K to pay Dr. Murray. Panish noted that the report was sent to MJ's Estate to recoup money "spent."

by **MJ Mod** Mon May 20, 2013 9:39 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h And that wraps Day 14 of the trial. Hope to see you all tomorrow!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jackson fans made t-shirts in support Katherine Jackson w/ her picture. They wore them in the hallway as she walked in/out of the courtroom

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paul Gongaware is next witness. He'll be at the courthouse first thing on Wednesday, assuming they finish with Trell by then.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Court is in recess until tomorrow morning. Shawn Trell is expected to last all day on the witness stand.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I think someone took it seriously," Trell said. He was not present at the meeting, but it was with Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Phillips did not contact a psychiatrist, doctor or any other medical provider, but they had a meeting that same say.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email: I think the very best thing we can do is get a top Psychiatrist in to evaluate him ASAP."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email: causing the HBO Concerts to be canceled. There are strong signs of paranoia, anxiety a d obsessive-like behavior.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email: ...weakening and deepening emotional state. It is reminiscent if what Karen, Bush, Travis and I remembered just before he fainted

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Ortega to Phillips on 6/20/09 Trouble at the Front "I honestly don't think he's ready for this based in his continued physical"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: And Dr. Murray was working for AEG Live in May of 2009 Trell: No, I would totally disagree with that statement

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if before a contract is written, the "meeting of the minds" is necessary. Trell agreed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Gongaware was authorized to negotiate with Dr. Murray, but he was still subject to an AEG contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Gongaware to Brother Michael on 5/6/09 regarding Dr. Murray: "Done at $150K per month, per MJ."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Another email shows Wooley asking Dr. Murray for a cancelled check for direct deposit of his monthly compensation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Wooley to Murray on May 8, 09 details terms of the contract: contracting company, mode of travel, living arrangements in London

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish said Ortega didn't have a memorialized agreement. "Kenny Ortega is different from Conrad Murray," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said they had agreed on the compensation for Dr. Murray, but needed to memorialize the deal in an agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email: The usual and costumary date for deposit is around 15th of each month, by today's date we're 13 days beyond my monthly fee."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email cont'd: Therefore, I am asking you to deposit my fee for May in reciprocity of good faith on your part as per our agreement...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Email from Dr. Murray to Wooley on May 29, 2009: "I have performed and continue to fulfill my services to the client in good faith..."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He was rendering services to Mr. Jackson; he had not been engaged for TII tour," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Dr. Murray was an independent contract, Trell said. An agreement is a term of conditions, not only agreement on compensation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: And Dr. Murray had an agreement with AEG based on the emails? Trell: No, Dr. Murray didn't have an agreement with AEG

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell: I don't recall, but I know initially it was more informal agreement. He (Ortega) was being paid based on the email agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Ortega's contract were a series of emails between us" Trell said. "He didn't have agreement of the nature as other people had on the tour"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Randy Phillips learned about MJ's physical condition through Kenny Ortega, the tour director for TII, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he never spoke with Dr. Murray about MJ's condition.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Within one week of MJ's death, the executive management was told about MJ poor physical condition? Trell: The events on June 19, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said there were no AEG employees at rehearsal on June 19. He learned about MJ's feeling ill during the executive management meeting.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Did Mr. Phillips tell you MJ was in bad shape prior to June 25? Trell: Yes, on June 19

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell has been designated as the most knowledgeable and qualified to represent AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he spoke with Randy Phillips about MJ's health and physical condition, as well as Phillips' interaction with Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if Trell discissed w/ Taylor about recouping Dr. Murray's production cost. He said they'd typically pass along the costs

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 21, 2013 4:33 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2m Lunch break is almost over. Trell resumes testimony shortly. More to come soon!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Trell said he is not familiar with background check process for hiring.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Trell said he was involved in the hiring by AEG Live for the TII tour. His department was responsible for retaining independent contractors.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m "We don't do background checks on independent contractors," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Background check costs around $40 to $125. Trell said AEG Live could afford this fee.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Next line of questioning is about human resources and background checks. Trell said they can be valuable and useful tools when hiring.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m "What were his observations of MJ's physical condition during rehearsal," Trell said. "I asked for his (Phillips) personal opinion."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Trell said he never saw the emails from Phillips directing people to exclude images from TII of MJ looking "skeletal" while rehearsing.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 7m The head of the marketing department attended rehearsal on June 23, 2009. "She was blown away by it," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Trell said Randy Phillips went to a handful of rehearsals, three at the Forum and two at Staples Center.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Email cont'd: obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m From Phillips to Gongaware, on 6/20/09 at 2:01 pm He is not a psychiatrist so I'm not sure how effective he can be at this point...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m From Gongaware to Phillips, on 6/20/09 at 5:59 am Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Email cont'd: Chemical or Physiological?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Email from Phillips to Gongaware on 6/20/09 at 1:52 am Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I'm not sure what the problem is

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Trell has been designated as the most qualified person to speak on behalf of AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m He said he spoke with Randy Phillips about Phillips' perception of MJ in order to prepare for testifying, but not about specific emails.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Email cont'd: based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state..." Trell said he didn't see these emails.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Email from Ortega to Randy Phillips on 6/20/09: (chain of emails) "I honestly don't think he is ready for this...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Trell said Mr. Phillips never told him about this email.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Email cont'd: Do we know whether there is a substance issue involved (perhaps better discusses on the phone).

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Email cont'd: advisor/substance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped Mike Tyson get sober and paroled)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Email from John Branca to Phillips, Gongaware, Joel Katz, Frank DiLeo, Michael Kane on 6/20/09 "I have the right therapist/spiritual...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "I think he recognized there was a problem on the 19th," Trell said. "I would take it seriously, as I believe Mr. Phillips did."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Email from Randy Phillips to Tim Leiweke on 6/19/09 "We have a huge problem here."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Email cont'd: The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Email cont'd: He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet, be hurt.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Email cont'd: MJ was sent home without stepping foot on stage.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 22m Email from Production Manager - Gongaware/Phillips on 6/19/09 Paul/Randy I'm not bring a drama queen here. Kenny asked me to notify you both

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Email from 6/17/09 from Gongaware to Phillip's assistant: "We need a physical therapist and a nutritionist"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Email cont'd: "...with him to get him to focus and come to rehearsal"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Email from 6/17/09 from Phillips ...Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo, and his doctor Conrad from Vegas and I have an intervention...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m "I was aware of MJ's doctor not allowing him to attend rehearsal," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Trell said he's aware of email from Ortega saying doctor was not allowing MJ to attend rehearsal on June 14, 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m "I had heard about rehearsals in which Mr. Jackson was fantastic," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Trell said he spoke with Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware about Michael Jackson's physical condition prior to coming to testify.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m "It seems to me we submitted this report for their review, I don't see any request for payment," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m This was a letter sent to the estate containing the expenses incurred, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Next topic: Budget/Costs. Panish showed an email from AEG's Rick Webking to MJ's Estate with 1st report of artist advances/expenses

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Email cont'd: The doctor is holding the afternoon of the 6th July open at Harley St. But keep in mind the visit could take 2 hours plus

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Email from 6/25/09: Taylor to Gongaware The consultation in London is critical...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m Email from 6/25/09: Gongaware to Taylor "If we don't get sickness coverage, we are dropping this policy"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Email cont'd: they feel if they're to consider providing illness to cover this particular artist, they must have very through medical report

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Email from 6/24/09: Taylor to Trell Insurers have refused to move on this. Huge amount of speculation in the media regarding artist's health

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Trell said if they secured life insurance, they would get money if MJ died. "We would get the money owed to us, yes," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Email from 6/23/09: Trell to Taylor "Any update on the availability of Term insurance?" (life insurance)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Email from 5/28/09: Trell to Taylor: "We really need to get that medical done"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m Email from 4/30/09: Wooley to Trell "We have no coverage against MJ sickness unless and until MJ submits to another medical in London"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Email cont'd: "They may restrict illnes cover or death from illness cover until this examination has taken place."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m Email on 3/20/09: Insurance broke to Gongaware: Insurers require further medical examination to be carried out by their nominated doctor

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Email cont'd: W/ both blood/urine tests. The doctor also want to review the medical records over the last 5 years to ensure full disclosure

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m Email from Bob Taylor to Trell on 1/7/09: prior to speaking w/ carriers we ask the artist to attend medical with a doctor... A full medical

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Panish showed several chains of emails where the parties talked about the insurance for the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Next topic was Insurance: Cancellation/Non-Appearance/Sickness. Trell said he started working on insurance for MJ tour in November of 2008.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m Trell said he was changing his testimony from yesterday to add that Ortega had a written contract, not only emails between him and AEG.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m "I remember the email dynamic. I'm not too proud to admit that I didn't recall the cover contract," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Trell said he met with his attorneys last night and reviewed one doc -- Kenny Ortega's contract. "He had a written contract," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Rebbie brought a Jehovah's Witness Bible with her. She was reading it before court began this morning.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Katherine Jackson present in court wearing a white polka dot jacket. Rebbie is wearing a navy blue jacket.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 15 of Jackson Family vs AEG'S trial underway. AEG's Shawn Trell currently on the stand.

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email on 6/2/09 from Randy Phillips to Jeff Wald: "Jeff, remember getting MJ to focus is not the easiest thing in the world"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell: Well, my understanding at the time there were a couple of people acting in that capacity.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: As of June 2009, you don't even know whether Mr. Jackson had a personal manager working for him, right?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said Dennis Hawk, who represented MJ, was in touch with Taylor regarding the insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Was Dr. Murray trying to help AEG get insurance? Trell: The policy was in both names, so he was helping both parties.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: as far as you know, all the agreements written for TII tour was done under AEG Live Productions, right? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell also said that Dr. Murray requested and AEG would provide necessary medical equipment and a nurse.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell told the police that day that Dr. Murray would receive $150,000 compensation per month.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bruce Black, attorney for Anschutz, was present in the meeting with LAPD. Trell met with the police on Tuesday, January 12, 2010.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h After lunch break, Brian Panish asked if Shawn Trell wanted to change anything else in his testimony, to which he said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell denied having a telephone conversation with Mr. Taylor where Trell asked him if a doctor's compensation was covered in the insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Does that refresh your recollection that AEG was employing Dr. Murray? Trell: Mr. Taylor has this completely wrong

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish shows Trell a deposition, under oath, given by insurance broker Bob Taylor on another case. Trell said he has never seen or read it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email from Kathy Jorrie to Bruce Black and Michael Roth on 8/25/09: Subject: AEG Live president says AEG Live hired Dr. Conrad Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bruce Black is the General Counsel for parent company of AEG and AEG Live. Michael Roth is AEG's media relations.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish said AEG higher-ups became concerned after Phillips made such admission. Trell said he didn't know if that was true.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't know what you mean about admitted, he made that statement," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h On July 1st, within 5 days of MJ's death, Phillips gave an interview to SkyNews saying AEG Live hired Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Isn't it true that Randy Phillips made numerous comments that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray? Trell: I know he has made that statement

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Every document is a draft until it is executed," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Did Ms. Jorrie call this contract a draft? Trell: She called it a Final Version

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The email says that if Dr. Murray approved it, he was to print it, sign and send it back to Jorrie.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email: I have redlined the Word version so that you can see all of the revisions. In addition, I've attached clean PDF version for execution

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email chain from 6/23/09, 5:39pm from Jorrie to Wooley, Murray Subject: RE: Michael Jackson - Revised Agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Attachments: Revised Michael Jackson -AEG GCA Holdings Murray Agreement 6-18-09 Final MJ -- AEG GCA Holdings Agreement (Dr. Murray) 6-23-09

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email from Kathy Jorie to Shawn Trell on 6/24/09 at 12:54 am: Subject: Revised agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray It had two attachments

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't think conflict of interests are a good thing, and we would want to prevent it," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell: I certainly wasn't aware of it at the time Panish: Because you didn't check, right? Trell: That's right

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to Dr Murray being under dire financial straits, Trell said that he doesn't know if he agrees with it, everyone's perception is different

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "If the concerts didn't go forward, and he was terminated under this provision, Dr. Murray would not be paid going forward," Trell explained

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It called for Michael Jackson being able to terminate Dr. Murray at will," Trell said about the contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "We did nothing to monitor Dr. Murray," Trell said. "We did not monitor whatever it was that he was doing, no."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell testified he doesn't believe the artist is more at risk because AEG Live doesn't do background check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "When they leave the environment, what they do on their own time is their own business," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: you don't do anything to check into background, supervise or protect the artist? Trell: No, safety is a concern

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts As to independent contractors, Trell said there's no supervision and monitoring like there's for employees.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Depending on the nature of the position, a background could be done, Trell said, like for potential employees in the financial area.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell agreed that no background check was done on anyone working on "This Is It" tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell testified that when it comes to independe contractors, they have either worked with the artists, AEG or known in the industry.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: There was no hiring criteria for the TII tour, correct? Trell: Not to my knowledge

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell: Well, my understanding at the time there were a couple of people acting in that capacity.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: As of June 2009, you don't even know whether Mr. Jackson had a personal manager working for him, right?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said Dennis Hawk, who represented MJ, was in touch with Taylor regarding the insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Was Dr. Murray trying to help AEG get insurance? Trell: The policy was in both names, so he was helping both parties.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: as far as you know, all the agreements written for TII tour was done under AEG Live Productions, right? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell also said that Dr. Murray requested and AEG would provide necessary medical equipment and a nurse.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell told the police that day that Dr. Murray would receive $150,000 compensation per month.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bruce Black, attorney for Anschutz, was present in the meeting with LAPD. Trell met with the police on Tuesday, January 12, 2010.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h After lunch break, Brian Panish asked if Shawn Trell wanted to change anything else in his testimony, to which he said no.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell denied having a telephone conversation with Mr. Taylor where Trell asked him if a doctor's compensation was covered in the insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Does that refresh your recollection that AEG was employing Dr. Murray? Trell: Mr. Taylor has this completely wrong

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish shows Trell a deposition, under oath, given by insurance broker Bob Taylor on another case. Trell said he has never seen or read it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email from Kathy Jorrie to Bruce Black and Michael Roth on 8/25/09: Subject: AEG Live president says AEG Live hired Dr. Conrad Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Bruce Black is the General Counsel for parent company of AEG and AEG Live. Michael Roth is AEG's media relations.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish said AEG higher-ups became concerned after Phillips made such admission. Trell said he didn't know if that was true.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't know what you mean about admitted, he made that statement," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h On July 1st, within 5 days of MJ's death, Phillips gave an interview to SkyNews saying AEG Live hired Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Isn't it true that Randy Phillips made numerous comments that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray? Trell: I know he has made that statement

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "Every document is a draft until it is executed," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: Did Ms. Jorrie call this contract a draft? Trell: She called it a Final Version

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h The email says that if Dr. Murray approved it, he was to print it, sign and send it back to Jorrie.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email: I have redlined the Word version so that you can see all of the revisions. In addition, I've attached clean PDF version for execution

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email chain from 6/23/09, 5:39pm from Jorrie to Wooley, Murray Subject: RE: Michael Jackson - Revised Agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Attachments: Revised Michael Jackson -AEG GCA Holdings Murray Agreement 6-18-09 Final MJ -- AEG GCA Holdings Agreement (Dr. Murray) 6-23-09

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email from Kathy Jorie to Shawn Trell on 6/24/09 at 12:54 am: Subject: Revised agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray It had two attachments

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I don't think conflict of interests are a good thing, and we would want to prevent it," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell: I certainly wasn't aware of it at the time Panish: Because you didn't check, right? Trell: That's right

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to Dr Murray being under dire financial straits, Trell said that he doesn't know if he agrees with it, everyone's perception is different

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "If the concerts didn't go forward, and he was terminated under this provision, Dr. Murray would not be paid going forward," Trell explained

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "It called for Michael Jackson being able to terminate Dr. Murray at will," Trell said about the contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "We did nothing to monitor Dr. Murray," Trell said. "We did not monitor whatever it was that he was doing, no."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell testified he doesn't believe the artist is more at risk because AEG Live doesn't do background check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "When they leave the environment, what they do on their own time is their own business," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: you don't do anything to check into background, supervise or protect the artist? Trell: No, safety is a concern

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h As to independent contractors, Trell said there's no supervision and monitoring like there's for employees.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Depending on the nature of the position, a background could be done, Trell said, like for potential employees in the financial area.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell agreed that no background check was done on anyone working on "This Is It" tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell testified that when it comes to independe contractors, they have either worked with the artists, AEG or known in the industry.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: There was no hiring criteria for the TII tour, correct? Trell: Not to my knowledge

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 21, 2013 10:17 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell explained what PMK is -- Person Most Knowledgeable, identified by the company to testify on its behalf.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell went thru his job description with AEG. He said he has five lawyers in his department and has worked on thousands of agreements.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Second report made to the Estate on Sept. 18, 2009, there was no amount next to management medical.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell testified Webking, the CFO for AEG, did not ask MJ's Estate for payment of Dr. Murray's salary.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Note 3: contract not signed by Michael Jackson and such signature was a condition precedent to any payment obligations.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina showed the report that was attached to the letter. Next to "Management Medical" there's a reference to footnote 3.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina: Is there any request for payment? Trell: No, there's no demand for payment, it's for review

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "It was my understating in June Tohme was back in the picture in some capacity. I'm not sure which, Mr. DiLeo was in it too," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The purpose of the meeting was to wind up the business affairs of the tour due to MJ's death, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said the report was requested by the Estate after a series of meetings after MJ's death.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jessica Bina began her examination by showing the letter submitted by AEG's CFO to the Estate of Michael Jackson for their review.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to reference in Phillips' email about Dr. Murray being unbiased, ethical, not needing this gig, Trell said it was Phillips' impressions

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said theoretically they could've asked to check Dr. Murray's background and credit.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He wasn't an employee, he wasn't applying for a full time position with the company," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish asked if there was any reason why Dr. Murray was not given a background check.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Doc is used for employment, promotion, retention, contingent or the rate staffing, consulting, sub-contract work, or volunteer work.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish showed a document used by AEG entitled "Disclosure and Authorization to Conduct Background Check"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said that no one from AEG interviewed Dr. Murray because he was an independent contractor.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Isn't it true AEG Live does not do background check on independent contractors? Trell: That's true

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Phillips never told him that he checked Dr. Murray out.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Do you agree w/CEO of your company making untrue statements? Trell: I don't know that he didn't know it wasn't true when he said it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell: I know the statement is not accurate. You have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he meant to say.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: You don't know if he was successful or facing bankruptcy, did you? Trell: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: That's a flat out lie, isn't it sir? Trell: I don't know what Mr. Phillips intended to say, this should be a question to him

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Panish: But no one at AEG checked Dr. Murray to see if he was successful or not, isn't that true? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email cont'd: This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he totally unbiased and ethical.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email: He said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform & discouraging him to will hasten his decline instead of stopping it

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email cont'd: I had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray, who I am gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email on 6/20/09 Phillips to Ortega Kenny it's critical that neither you, me, anyone around this show become amateur psychiatrist/physicians

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said AEG didn't do anything to determine Dr. Murray's financial conditions in 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said AEG Live didn't do anything to check Dr. Murray's competency as doctor, other than checking his physician license.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "He was a significant expense," Trell testified about Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h "I've never spoken with Dr. Murray ever. And I met/spoke with Mr. Jackson once," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said his understanding was that Dr. Murray worked for MJ for 3 years; didn't know how many times MJ saw Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Trell said the only time he saw an artist's signature required to retain an independent contractor was for Dr. Murray.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Email cont'd: ...and we still have no lawyer, business manager, or, even real manager in place. It is a nightmare!"

by **MJ Mod** Tue May 21, 2013 10:25 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Paul Gongaware is not expected until Thursday. That's the plan for now. We hope to see you all tomorrow again!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h That ended Day 15 of testimony in Jackson Family vs AEG wrongful death trial. Shawn Trell is expected to last all day tomorrow on the stand

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h In May, AEG received letter from MJ saying Tohme didn't rep him anymore. "No payments were ever made under this agreement," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h One of the the conditions was placement of non-appearance insurance, Trell said. That placement was done in late April, early May.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "This agreement was entered into January 26, Trell testified. "There are conditions that needed to be met before any payment could be made."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h January 24, 2009 -- agreement entered with Dr. Tohme Tohme Trell said MJ was involved and signed this agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Contract: that would reasonable be expected to interfere with Artist's first class performance at each of the shows during the term.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Contract: Artistco hereby represents and warrants that artist does not possess any known health conditions, injuries or ailments...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h If the were no obligations to AEG, the payout would go back to the artist, Trell explained."It just recoups our loan made to the artist."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Their interest in the policy, Trell said, was to cover the advances and production costs incurred with the production of the show.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said it's not only typical and customary, but standard and artist needs to secure either non-appearance or cancellation insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said AEG would not advance money without the artist requesting it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Production values can get significant, for lack of a better word, it really depends on how many bells and whistles they want," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Michael Jackson was known to have very elaborated productions," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Contract: Artist was responsible for all the production costs in excess of the cap and had to reimburse promoter.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The advances were to be paid back to AEG Live before the split of revenue. Production Advances were capped to $7.5 million.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The underlying dispute was that a company owned the rights for Jackson's live performance. "The rights needed to be freed up," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Part of the advance was to pay off the settlement agreement of $3 million in London court.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h AEG Live was promoter and producer. "We advanced the money necessary to mount the tour," Trell explained. "It's interest free money"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said compensation was agreed on 90-10 split. Artist received 90% of what's defined contingent compensation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Contract: Artist shall approve a sufficient number of shows on itineraries proposed by promoter or producer as to recoup the advances made.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Contract: Artist shall perform no less than 80 minutes at each show, and the maximum show length for each show shall be 3.5 hours

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina discussed the contract for the tour agreement: A first class performance by Artist at each show on each of the approved itineraries.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I was probably there just a little less than an hour. And that was the only time I met him," Trell recalled.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said they all signed it and Mr. Jackson was really keen on the 3-D stuff, that he was already down the road in his mind.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He seemed genuinely enthused," Trell added. "He had the contract in front of him, said he read every page, seemed very enthused."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "He popped up, came over, introduced himself, was very cordial, there was a real positive energy, good vibe in the room," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said they shook hands, he had a good firm handshake and his voice was not what people think.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said it was pretty funny, since he was a very distinct person.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Upon arrival, Trell said Mr. Jackson got up from where he was seated, and said 'Hi, welcome, I'm Michael."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina showed the jury the final tour agreement. Trell said he went to MJ's home at Carolwood to sign it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h For MJ, Trell said Dr. Tohme Tohme and attorneys Dennis Hawk and Peter Lopez represented him. He said there were multiple drafts.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell, Phillips and Kathy Jorrie were involved in drafting and negotiating the contract with Michael Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said Kenny Ortega was paid after his contract was signed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina showed Ortega's executed contract with everyone's signature on it.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he recalled the emails exchange and admitted again not being proud of forgetting the cover contract portion.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Bina showed copy of Ortega's contract. A large number of emails are part of the agreement as exhibits.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell noted he hadn't looked at Ortega's agreement since it was entered into in 2009.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "When we were done here yesterday, I looked at Kenny Ortega's original agreement," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h As to Ortega's contract, Trell said he was aware ofa string of emails being at least a part of original agreement with Kenny.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he didn't know about all the topics he was designated, so he had to do some studying and interviews with people.

by **MJ Mod** Wed May 22, 2013 7:14 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37s List of what appeared on tabloids: Mj using a wheelchair, back injury, lupus, cancer, cosmetic procedures, lung infections.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Bina: We're you ever able to get more insurance coverage? Trell: No, because concerns over what marketplace saw in media reports.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Trell: If someone died and the artist was so distraught that the artist could not perform, that loss would be covered by this policy.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Bina: you wouldn't go out to get a policy for an artist with an illicit drug problem? Trell: no, because it wouldn't be covered

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Trell says that he received report from insurance broker about the exam. "Other than a case of hay fever, Jackson passed in flying colors."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Bina: Did you have a problem with the cost of doctor? Trell: I thought in LA there are world renown doctors, questioned the expense

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Trell said insurance was $17.5 million. He said in the market place there was lot of skittishness; tabloid media possibility of skin cancer

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Trell: It is not uncommon for an artist to have the assistance of a promoter. We have to be satisfied with the strength of the policy.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Trell: AEG had obligation regarding advances. We don't secure insurance to cover profits, only to protect losses from cancellation.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Trell: The cancellation insurance, whether one show lost or the entire tour, MJ was obligated to pay us regarding the production costs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Trell said it's always the artists obligation to obtain this form of insurance to pay back the advances.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m Trell: To pursue Jackson's interest films, AEG would put up a million dollars for development. They contemplated making 3 films.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Trell: while this agreement started in January, the conditions/terms not met. If Tohme would've performed as specified, would've been paid.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Compensation is detailed in contract. There was a condition precedent. Trell refers to cancellation insurance in tour agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 24m Jessica Bina asked Trell about an agreement regarding former manager Tohme Tohme. He was employed by Jackson and contract added duties.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Watch @ABC7 Eyewitness News tonight at 11pm PT to see the emails and all the details about the story and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, said that he's waiting for actual evidence in the case to be presented and this was just personal attacks.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jackson's fans said they were "outraged" at AEG's treatment of Michael. They were crying in the hallway and said animals are treated better.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish cont'd: we're going continue to show and prove what AEG is all about. This was just the tip of the iceberg."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish cont'd: We're going to continue to prove that for members of the board and attorneys to refer to him as that is disgraceful"

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish cont'd: "All he was to them was a vehicle to make money."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jackson's attorney Brian Panish had this reaction outside court: "This exemplifies AEG had no respect for Mr. Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Shawn Trell answered: "Apparently. Not sure how I feel about that. Interesting for sure, but kind of creepy."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "Does this mean you get to meet the freak?" Ted Fikre, AEG's general counsel wrote to Shawn Trell.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h This ema exchange happened hours before Shawn Trell went to MJ's house to sign the contract on January 28, 2009,

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Jackson's attorney showed emails between attorneys high-up within AEG and AEG Live referring to Michael Jackson as "freak" and "creepy".

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Before we detail everything that happened in court today, we'll describe the events that happened late afternoon when Trell testified

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Katherine enters in an orchid colored jacket... cotton piqué according to sketch artist Mona Edwards, a former fashion illustrator.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Zhang was not able to hand it to her directly but was happy to give it to Will, one of her bodyguards.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Keen Zhang is the president of China's Michael Jackson fan club. He brought program from a memorial service there to present to Mrs Jackson

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h It was mission accomplished for fan Karlene Taylor who guided a visitor from Beijing!

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 16 of Jackson Family vs AEG wrongful death trial under way. Court in recess for lunch now.

by ljmissmj Thu May 23, 2013 11:49 am

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h
Panish: Have you ever told Mr. Anschutz that his general counsel at AEG referred to MJ as a freak?
Trell: No

THIS BROKE MY HEART COMPLETELY... A FREAK?? WTF! TEARS

by **MJ Mod** Thu May 23, 2013 12:02 pm

Here are the rest of the tweets from yesterday (5/22/2013)

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Shawn Trell will resume testimony tomorrow at 9:30 am PT. Paul Gongaware will follow as soon as Trell is done.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Panish: Have you ever told Mr. Anschutz that his general counsel at AEG referred to MJ as a freak? Trell: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h From Trell to Fikre on 1/28/09 Apparently. Not sure how I feel about that. Interesting for sure, but kind of creepy.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Panish: And this is the kind of respect your lawyer shows to the artist referring him as a freak?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Fikre is the general counsel for AEG, Panish said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h From Fikre to Trell on 1/28/09, in response, three minutes later Does this mean you get to meet the freak?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h From Trell to Ted Fikre (attorney on the board of AEG) on 1/28/09 FYI...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h From Phillips to Gongaware, cc'd Trell: 5pm at 100 Carolwood Drive. You and Shaw should be there

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "I don't believe he was misrepresenting the truth. It was Wednesday 28, not Monday the 26," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "I didn't have the date necessarily in my calendar, I didn't have the date in front of me," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Panish: You were wrong about that, sir? Trell: I was wrong about the signing date

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Panish noted the contract signing was on the 28th and not 26th as Trell referred to.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Email on 1/28/09 from Gongaware to Phillips: MJ still on today, right?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "I may not necessarily agreed with some of the life choices he made," he said, adding "I won't forget meeting him that day."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "I think people have their own impressions, and thoughts and feelings about Michael Jackson," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Panish asked Trell if it was appropriate for AEG to use derogatory terms to refer to an artist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "He seems very personable when I met him, I thought it was very interesting when he got up and met me at the door," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "I won't forget meeting Michael Jackson," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h January 26, 2009 was the first and only time Trell met with Michael Jackson. "I'm sure it was the only time I met MJ."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Trell said he was very, very involved in the "This Is It" tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Brian Panish: Have you seen documents where Dr. Murray is referred to as a consultant? Trell: I don't recall

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Bina: Does AEG Live does background check on its employees? Trell: credit history may be requested when related to the position at issue

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Trell said that MJ's Estate ultimately approved the productions advances incurred in the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h On June 25, Trell said there were two people that represented Michael Jackson in some management capacity: Dr. Tohme and Frank DiLeo.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "He appeared fine and the rehearsals were terrific," Trell said he was told.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h There were no rehearsals on 21st and 22nd, Trell said, and MJ rehearsed on the 23rd and 24th.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Trell: Secondly, Dr. Murray scolded Kenny Ortega for raising concern, that he was taking care of Michael and he was just fine.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Meeting on June 20th: Dr. Murray, Michael, Randy Phillips and Kenny Ortega. "Firstly, Michael indicated he was fine, just fine," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h He knew one on June 20th, and another one in the beginning of June, but he didn't know the date.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h "My understanding there were two meetings in which Dr. Murray attended and MJ was present," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10h Bina: Did you speak with Mr. Phillips about his interaction with Dr. Murray? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "Everyone mentioned chilling or cold, but no one definitively stated at the time what was going on," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Trell said he was in the courtroom when Travis Payne testified. He remembers Payne saying MJ looked like he had flu-like symptoms on 6/19/09

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email cont'd: He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can arise to the occasion. If we get him the help he needs.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email cont'd: He asked me repeatedly tonight if I was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. He broke my heart.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email cont'd: it would shatter him, break his heart if we pulled the plug. He's terribly frightened it's all going to go away.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email on 6/20/09 from Ortega to Phillips: Finally, it's important for everyone to know, I believe that he really wants this

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Trell spoke with individuals from AEG about MJ's physical condition. He said he was told MJ seemed fine and the performances were terrific.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract included provisions to terminate the contract for failure to provide appropriate medical licenses to work in the US and UK

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: in the United Kingdom and to perfonn the Services under this Agreement to the reasonable satisfaction of the producer.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: Present to Producer no later than July 3, 2009 documented proof of all licenses required for Dr. Murray to practice medicine

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: for Dr. Murray to practice Medicine in the United States and to perform the Services under this Agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: Present to Producer within two (2) weeks from the date of this Agreement documented proof of any and all licenses required

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: and to fulfill all of his obligations under this Agreement including in accordance with applicable laws in the United Kingdom.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: or from any governmental agency or authority to permit or otherwise legally authorize Dr. Murray to perform any and all Services

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Responsibilities of GCA/Dr. Murray 4.3 Obtain, maintain and comply with all licenses or other approvals required by any applicable law

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: as are reasonably requested by Artist from time to time during the term hereof. "It was requested by Dr. Murray," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Redline: It changed the scope of services from producer to artist in the sentence: "Dr. Murray shall also provide such other services

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email: which incorporates all of the revision you requested. I have redlined the word version so that you can see all the revisions.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email on 6/23/09 from Kathy Jorrie to Wooley and Dr. Murray I've attached hereto a revised version of your agreement

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: Such services will be administered professionally and w/ the greatest degree of care expected from members in the medical field.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract Scope of Services: Dr. Murray will provide general medical care to the Artist...

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Bina shows the Recitals of the contract. In one of them, it says Dr. Murry was a licensed cardiologist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "The intention was to make it (provision 9) expressly subject to have Michael's signature on it," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h The agreement was between AEG Live Productions, LLC and GCA Holdings LLC and Conrad Murray. GCA Holdings is Dr. Murray's employer.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "I'm not aware of MJ making objections to this provision," Trell said. Bina showed Dr. Murray's last page of the contract signed by Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "My understating he was an Artist Advance," Trell said. MJ's company was responsible for both artist and production advances.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Trell said he doesn't do the final settlement himself, but people who do ask him questions about how it should be done.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Trell said there's a final settling of the tour after the project is completed. That's where they categorize/re-categorize things.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "This was specific accommodation at the request of the artist as opposed to production cost incurred while mounting a show," Trell said

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "My understanding is that he was going to be categorized as artist advance," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: on behalf of an at the expense of the undersigned: Michael Jackson

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: The undersigned hereby confirms that he has requested producer to engage Dr. Murray on the terms set forth herein

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h "Because of the personal nature here from MJ for this particular engagement of his personal physician," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: obligations to one another arising from the agreement. Trell testified this was the first contract he saw this provision included

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: Without the artist's expressed and written approval of the agreement neither party to the agreement will have any rights

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Contract: Provision 9 Artist Consent: The effect of this agreement is conditioned upon the approval and consent of the artist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h 6/15/09 Jorrie wrote to Wooley: I've attached draft for your review/comment. If you approved the attached, please submit copy to Dr. Murray

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Bina: Did Ms. Jorrie begin contract negotiations with Dr. Murray at your direction? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email noted payment could only be made upon fully executed contract. Kathy Jorrie is attorney retained by AEG to work on Murray's contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h 5/28/09, Wooley to Dr. Murray He said the legal department has not yet completed the agreement which is rather specialized, rare event

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email cont'd: don't apply to your specialized position. So it has to be custom-generated.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email cont'd: But am looking for help writing the legal department because the form within which I work

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11h Email on 5/21/09 from Wooley to Dr. Murray: Dear Conrad, I should like to send a contract to you in the next day or two

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell said they produced Prince's tour a few years ago, which was analogous to the "This Is It" tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell said insurance was required based on the contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Bina: Surprised to bring family physician on board? Trell: No we've had other tours where artists brought doctors for themselves/families

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Bina: Did AEG have any role in choosing doctor Murray? Trell: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell: It would be misguided for us to inject ourselves in the lives of those people. (Referring to members of an artist's entourage)

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell: On a nightly basis when they leave the premises, they go home, that is the sanctity of their home, that is their business.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell: people responsible for the project would be involved in establishing rates and conditions, agreement is handled by me or my office.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell: We hire third parties for equipment, sound. They're usually referred to us or they are known to the artist.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h "Independent contractors have area of expertise needed to make the project happen" Trell said. It's expertise not within the company itself.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell said employees are insured by the company. Independent contractors are just that, that is why it is called independent.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Bina: Could AEG make a profit from cancellation insurance? Trell: No, only to cover losses

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Trell said there was no mention of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sleep disorder.

by **MJ Mod** Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We're now at lunch break, which is almost over. Trell resumed on the stand shortly.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Rebbie exited hugging Mrs. Jackson in the hallway. Katherine was crying, took off her glasses, wiped his eyes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Katherine Jackson exited the courtroom in tears. She became emotional when Panish asked if MJ was being pressured.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The agreement was the tour agreement, Trell said, where it contemplated it could be expanded based upon artist's approval.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Panish: Were you concerned? Trell: There's always a concern Panish: Have you ever lost $34 million before? Trell: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Trell said he doesn't think AEG was under pressure to lose $34 million. "It was Michael Jackson's obligation to us."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h "I have no idea what he felt," Trell said. Panish: No one ever pressured him, right? Trell: That's my impression.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13s Panish: Was Mr. Jackson feeling pressured? Trell: The email says he was frightened, it doesn't say he was feeling pressured.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34s "I don't know why Kenny was referencing that, I don't know about mention of ending the tour," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m This is the same email showed yesterday where Ortega said MJ was frightened that everything was going to go away.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Panish: Was MJ pressured psychological and needed to be checked? Trell: I don't know that.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Email cont'd: and have applied tough love, now or never card, that the artist may be unable to rise to the occasion.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1m Email from Ortega to Phillips on 6/20/09 at 2a: My concern is now that we have brought the doctor in the fold

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 4m Trell said he didn't know how much MJ's assets were worth. He agreed they were underinsured for the tour.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5m Defendant's attorney asked for a sidebar. They claimed Panish was misrepresenting the evidence. After the sidebar, they changed subject.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Panish asked Trell if he knew Randy Phillips threatened to take away Michael's house if he didn't perform.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Trell testified the venue typically holds the money of the sold tickets. In this case, AEG was the owner of the venue, withheld the money.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Trell doesn't know the exact number of the tickets sold. Estimating 15K seats for each of the 50 shows, Trell said it was about 750K tickets

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m "I testified that I was inquiring of ways that might be available to breach the gap," Trell said about looking for additional insurance.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "Meaning MJ showed up whenever MJ wanted to," Trell opined.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12m "Timm Wooley's statement is inaccurate, in my opinion," Trell said, but agreed he never spoke with Wooley about it, never saw it before.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Email cont'd: Looks like there might have been an issue in KO either not being demanding enough.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 13m Email cont'd: Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray are responsible for MJ rehearsal and attendance schedule.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Email on 6/23/09 from Timm Wooley to Bob Taylor (insurance broker): Kenny Ortega has responsibility only for the show content and structure

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Trell said he saw Dr. Tohme call MJ numerous times about the tour. Trell: I don't know what she meant with the reference to "real McCoy".

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Trell said there was no reason to believe Dr. Tohme wasn't telling the truth when he said he represented Michael Jackson.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 15m Did you perform background check on Dr. Tohme? Trell: No

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Jorrie questioned if he was the "real McCoy", meaning the real deal, and recommended a background check to be performed.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 16m Panish showed an email where attorney Kathy Jorrie expressed reservations about Dr. Tohme.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m "It's hard for me to describe, he was not an employee, and not independent contractor either," Trell.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Panish pressed Trell for an answer, since he testified people working on the tour were either employees or independent contractors.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Panish: Is he an independent contractor? Trell: He's a party to an agreement

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m Panish asked if Dr. Tohme was an employee of AEG. Trell: He was not an employee

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 18m "It was a fee for whatever services MJ wanted him to perform according to the agreement," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m "It was an agreement between us and Tohme regarding the service he would render on the tour," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 19m Trell said AEG had a management agreement with Dr. Tohme, a management agreement.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 20m Trell said the people whom AEG contracted are either known to them, to the artist or in the business.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 25m Trell said he doesn't expect the CEO of a company to know everything within the company, as Phillips wrote that they 'checked everyone out'.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 26m Panish: Isn't it important to put everything in writing, sir? Trell: Not necessarily, I don't think you can put everything in writing

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 27m Panish: That's because it's your job to protect the financial interested of the company, rights? Trell: It's part of my responsibility, yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m As to independent contractors, Trell said the indemnity provision is always included in the agreements.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Trell: I don't know if that would rise to a conflict of interest. There are facts and circumstances that would bear on this.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Panish: Is it a conflict of interest to tell a doctor you are paying how he needs to treat his patient?

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 29m Panish referred to the email from Gongaware on June 14, 2009 saying AEG was the one paying Dr. Murray's salary and what's expected of him.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Panish: Do you know if Mr. Phillips ever threat Dr. Murray? Trell: No, I don't know that.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30m Panish: You have no idea what the law allows what a physician can discuss or someone can ask about a patient's condition, sir? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m Panish: Are you familiar with HIPPA? Trell: I'm generally familiar with it, but don't know what the acronym means.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m If they are talking about generalities, Trell said he doesn't think there's need for an authorization that Panish was talking about.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m Panish: About their physical conditions? Trell: I don't know that. I think it would depend on the nature and substance of the conversation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Panish asked if Trell thought it was ok for Phillips to speak with Dr. Murray alone. He said it depends on the substance of the conversation

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m Panish asked if MJ ever signed a release of authorization for Randy Phillips to speak with Dr. Murray. Trell said he was not aware of one.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m "I'm aware he had spoken with him, but didn't know the length of the calls," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Panish asked if Trell knew Randy Phillips talked to Dr. Murray for 20 minutes on the phone.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 36m Trell explained that before AEG were to sign the final version, though, he would've reviewed everything to make sure there were no mistakes.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Trell said he never reviewed any of the drafts of Dr. Murray's contract because Jorrie was handling the negotiation.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 37m Trell said he didn't have written approval from MJ for 50 shows. "But you wanted to get fully executed contracts right sir?" Panish inquired

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Panish: But you sold tickets for 50 shows? Trell: The agreement contemplated in excess of 31, based on artist's approval.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 38m Panish: How many shows were in the tour? Trell: In the tour agreement, 31.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m As to mistakes in contracts, Panish said there were a lot made in several contracts. He highlighted a few of them.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 39m Panish: Did Dr. Murray sign and fax back the contracts? Trell: Yes, he did.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m "I believe there were three or four drafts," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m As to Dr. Murray's contract, Trell said it was prepared by AEG Live attorneys and never sent to any attorney representing MJ.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m Panish: You, AEG Live, could've said you should hire your own doctor with your own money, right? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Panish: Do you believe a threat to lose $150,000 month could exert pressure on anyone? Trell: I don't know that

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "We weren't aware of a conflict of interest," Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 45m "I think Mr. Jackson asked us to engage his (Dr. Murray) services for him and his family on the tour," Trell explained.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m AEG did not deduct any payment from Jorrie for making mistakes in the contracts, Trell said.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 46m Trell said he didn't know if AEG has a written contract with attorney Kathy Jorrie, who drafted Dr. Murray's contract.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Trell said AEG never hired physicians for tours before.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 47m Panish said Prince's tour did not go well. "I wouldn't agree with that statement," Trell said. "I've never spoken to Prince, ever."

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 49m "We promoted and produced Prince's 88 tour," Trell said. Panish: Is that a yes, one time you did promote/produce a tour? Trell: Yes

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 50m Trell said AEG has done other smaller productions as promoter and producer, only on two occasions for singers (Prince and MJ).

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m "I approximate the number of tours I've been involved in to be about 100," Trell testified.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Trell said when he met Michael Jackson in January of 2009, the singer didn't appear to be in pain.

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53m Katherine Jackson and daughter Rebbie are present in the courtroom. Brian Panish continues examination of AEG VP/General Counsel Shawn Trell

ABC7 Court News ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 55m Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 17 of Jackson Family v AEG wrongful death trial under way. AEG's Shawn Trell on the stand.

by ljmissmj Thu May 23, 2013 4:37 pm

I wish there was some way "we" could have gotten to Michael, I know it's a fanciful thought but if we could have kidnapped him away from these people, i dunno maybe things would be different. You never know what people really say and feel about you behind your back....if he knew how these people felt and what they thought about him - i think Michael would be crushed.. I hope other "artists" are paying attention to what AEG is about

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