DAILY ABC Court News Tweets (from the courtroom updated all day long)

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Due to the enormous amount of time that is spent by both Admin and myself working on the court transcripts, WeAreTheWorld. will now be taking over both the ABC tweets and the Anthony McCartney tweets.

These are the jury questionairre questions being tweeted along with courtroom updates-from https://twitter.com/ABC7Courts

NOTE:THE MOST RECENT POST IS THE MOST RECENT TWEET

4/2/13 Tweets

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3m Question: would you find it difficult to award $0 damages to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member, even if failed to prove?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6m Question: wound it be difficult to award multi millions of dollars to plaintiffs who sued for the death of a family member?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Questionnaire: do you have any negative feelings about people who bring lawsuits for monetary damages? Should there be limits on the award?

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 11m Questionnaire asks if juror has declared bankruptcy or had major financial problems. It asks about if he person ever felt harassed at work.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 14m Then questionnaire goes into social media, asking if the person has Facebook or twitter. Next is point of view, from conservative to liberal

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 17m Questionnaire asks if juror follows the news and, if so, from where (TV, Internet, radio, etc) It asks if the person has ever written a blog

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21m Questionnaire asks if juror knows any judges, attorneys, court personnel. Also, it asks about medical conditions and if he/she was ever sued

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23m Jury questionnaire begins with personal questions: name, date of birth, residency, level of education, employment, jury experience.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 28m Here's a picture of the front page of the jury questionnaire. pic.twitter.com/wO89TLLgPc

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h After jurors are qualified based on time, they'll be given a questionnaire. First questions are personal: residency area, level of education

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Everyone now excused for lunch break. We'll be back at 1:30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h This part of jury selection is just excuse for hardship, which means excuse the people who can't serve on a trial for 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attorneys talking to the judge and telling her which jurors they want to jointly dismiss and the ones they want to question further.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Before I forget, kudos to Judge Palazuelos and her staff for being very friendly to everyone present, whether media rep or public members!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h The lengthy questionnaire has 25 pages and 123 questions. I'm going over the doc now and will tweet the most relevant questions.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h @Honeytania You're very welcome! Let us know if you have any questions!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Some Michael Jackson fans are in the courtroom as well. Jury selection has been moved to a bigger courtroom to accommodate everyone.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Attys for all sides are now looking at the answers provided by the jurors. Once they are qualified for time, they'll answer a questionnaire.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We'll be covering the trial daily and will tweet as much as possible. Judge has denied live tweeting, but that's still under discussion.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge said trial will be Mon-Thu from 9:30 am to noon, 1:30 pm to 4:00/4:30 pm and Fridays 9:00 am to noon, 2:30 to 4:00/4;30 pm.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First panel of 35 jurors have been ordered to return at 1:30p to discuss their answer to whether they can serve 90 days.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge told potential jurors that trial is estimated to last 90 days. Then, judge asked them to answer whether they can serve that long.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h One panel with 35 potential jurors came into the courtroom to begin the jury selection process. Judge read a statement of the case to them.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h We are told Katherine Jackson plans to attend the entire trial, but won't be present until opening statements are set to begin.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Judge Yvette Palazuelos, who's presiding over the trial, took camera request under submission and will rule on it before opening statement.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, argued against camera, saying it could interfere with the due process and intimidate witnesses.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Brian Panish, atty for Katherine Jackson and the children, argued in favor of cameras. "All we ask is that the truth be seen by everyone."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h First on the agenda was a motion brought by the media to ask the judge to allow the trial to be televised, just like in Murray trial.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h Good morning everyone. Today the civil trial in the wrongful death of Michael Jackson begins. Katherine Jackson and the kids are suing AEG.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 21h HEADS UP: Starting tomorrow, we'll be live tweeting the Jackson lawsuit against promoter AEG in the death of Michael Jackson

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by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:09 am

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Gongaware told Ortega about the meeting on the 20th. Neither Phillips nor Dr. Murray ever told Ortega they spoke on the phone for 20 mins.

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Panish: Do you know how you felt?
Ortega: I was stressed
P: Distraught?
O: Yes

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"I just wanted Michael to be ok," Phillips said. He trusted both Phillips and Gongaware.

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Panish: In all the time you knew MJ, did you ever see him in the condition he was on June 19th?
Ortega: No

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Ortega: I wanted it to be taken care of, whatever it was, I wanted it looked into and taken care of.

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Dr. Murray, in some capacity, tried to tell Ortega what was happening. But the director never got an answer to what was wrong with MJ.

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Panish: Did Randy Phillips ever tell you what the problem with MJ was?
Ortega: No

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"I got the impression that Randy would be looking over and investigate himself," Ortega explained.

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Phillips testified he thought Ortega was entrenched in the situation and not being open minded. Ortega disagreed with Phillips' perception.

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Ortega: Yes, because they were talking about a person's health, I was more concerned about Michael's health than anything else at that time.

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Panish: If Phillips were more concerned about getting the show on the road rather than MJ, would that worry you?

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"I felt Michael was in trouble and needed help," Ortega said.

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Ortega: I had seen something deeply troubling and I wanted to be taken seriously.

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"I saw something that troubled me deeply and I felt it needed attention," Ortega said.

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Panish: Were you trying to concern Mr. Phillips about this situation?
Ortega: Yes
P: Why?
O: Because I was concerned

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Panish: Do you think you were trying to sound an alarm?
Ortega: Yes
P: Raise a red flag?
O: Yes

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Ortega didn't think Dr. Murray was giving good care to MJ.

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Ortega said he does not know whether Dr. Murray was ever successful, unbiased and ethical. The director did not check the doctor out himself

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Phillips responded to Ortega that he not be an amateur psychiatrist. Ortega said that was not his intention.

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Ortega: 'There's nothing to be afraid of, we are going to do this, This Is It.' That's the Michael I had allegiance to.

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"There was no question in my mind that Michael wanted to do the shows," Ortega said.

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Ortega: Obsessive behavior: he was repeating for me not to quit or eave him

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Ortega: He was afraid for one thing I was going to leave him. Anxiety: he was anxious he didn't want me to leave or quit

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Email ends: to quit on him, the other in this weakened and troubled state.

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Email cont'd: It's like there are two people there. On (deep inside) trying to hold on to what he was and still can be and not wanting us

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Email cont'd: and obsessive-like behavior. I think the best thing we can do it is get a top Psychiatrist on to evaluate him ASAP.

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Email cont'd: and I remembered just before he fainted causing the HBO Concerts to be canceled. There are strong signs of paranoia, anxiety

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Email cont'd: based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state. It is reminiscent of what Karen, Bush, Travis

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Ortega responded Phillips:
Randy,
I'm at home awaiting your call or instructions. I honestly don't think he is ready for this

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Ortega: I didn't want to break Michael's heart, I was torn. My instinct was to stop the show, but I didn't want to break Michael's heart.

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Panish: You were not concerned with the business side, but with Michael Jackson?
Ortega: Yes

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Email ends: and how they can get through to him in such a short time.

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Email cont'd: We will bring her back ASAP and Frank, too, however, I'm stymied on who to bring in as a therapist

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Email from Phillips:
Kenny, I will call you when I figure this out. We have a person like that, Brigitte, who's in London advancing his stay

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Ortega said he doesn't remember an email response from Randy Phillips to his email.

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"I said I thought it would break his heart," Ortega explained.

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Panish: How would MJ be if show was canceled?
Ortega: I know how deeply it mattered to him to do these shows

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Panish: Did you discuss with Randy Phillips, 5 days before MJ's death, about pulling the plug?
Ortega: Not that I recall

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Ortega said he didn't see Randy until next day, on the 20th, when he was at the meeting at Carolwood house.

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Ortega said he believes his email was a strong suggestion that MJ needed to be seen by a doctor for his psychological condition.

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"He seems lost, not like the Michael I'd seen," Ortega said. "I couldn't see his body but his physical presence wasn't what I had seen last"

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"I didn't believe it could go fwd at this point, at this night" Ortega said. "I wanted it for him, I know it was what he wanted for himself"

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Ortega said he could've walked away, and MJ would've been left without a director.

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Ortega: I tried the doctor, who I thought it would be the most natural, and then reached out to AEG, Michael's partners, for help

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Panish: Were you scared about Michael?
Ortega: Absolutely in the beginning, a little less in the end, when he was a little warm, better

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"I was not feeding (MJ) literally, I did not feed Michael," Ortega said.

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Panish asked if Ortega thought MJ was not being cared for. "Not at the level I'd expected Michael deserved," he answered.

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Panish: And you had a real concern with Dr. Murray?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega: I'm not a doctor, I just felt there was something going on, more than physical. My response was to have a professional evaluate him

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"It was real emotional stuff," Ortega testified. "I just felt he wasn't present, he wasn't there.

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"I believe this was something else, it was not the tough love, you have to show up of this is not going to happen," Ortega said.

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"The doctor in the fold means he was in charge of Michael's schedule and it involved me," Ortega said.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:24 am

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Ortega's favorite songs are:
1- Man in the Mirror
2- Billie Jean
3- 100 other songs all tied in the 3rd place

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Panish show video of Earth song. This is the last song he rehearsed, Ortega said. He was bundled up in several layers of clothing.

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"I was standing on the stage, waiting for Michael," Ortega recalled. The director said Staples Center was like refrigerators, so cold.

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Panish: What happened the next day?
Ortega: Michael died (Ortega's voice cracked a little)

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Earth song was the last song Michael rehearse. Panish asked if MJ did it well. Ortega smiled and answered yes. Ortega takes very deep breath

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Panish: Do you know if Dr. Murray had stopped giving MJ Propofol?
Ortega: I had no idea

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"I doubted myself, I remember going did I see something?" Ortega said. Michael just didn't seem the Michael he saw on June 19th.

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"He had a metamorphosis," Ortega said, in awe. "Pretty extraordinary."

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Ortega said everyone noticed the drastic change. "I didn't know anything about any medication."

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Ortega: Whatever the flu, whatever it was, it was just not present. I didn't ask questions, I was just overjoyed.

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When Michael Jackson showed up at rehearsal on June 23, Ortega said: "It was miraculous!"

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Panish: And 5 days later Michael was dead
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega said MJ responded 'I know, I know, I love you, I will take the reins.'

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"Michael said no, no, no, they were in disagreement too," Ortega said. The director told MJ he only cared about MJ.

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MJ stood up, gave Ortega a hug before he left. "The doctor suggested that MJ had told him one thing and now was saying another" Ortega said

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Ortega testified he asked Michael to explain to Dr. Murray that MJ asked to stay, but the evening was different. And MJ did just that.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray told him to stick with his job and to leave the doctor job to him.

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Ortega: Dr. Murray said MJ was physically and emotionally capable to handle all the responsibilities of the performance.

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Ortega: He (Dr. Murray) was upset with me, and he said I had no right to not let MJ rehearse.

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Panish: Did Michael stick up for you?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega: Have I ever being talked down, hurt, insulted? Yes, so many times I can't tell you!

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Panish asked if he was ever treated like that in his long career. "Oh sure!" Ortega responded.

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"I was flabbergasted! Because I didn't believe that was possible," Ortega testified, saying he felt hurt, insulted.

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Ortega said he excused himself. Dr. Murray said MJ was fine and could handle all responsibilities for the show.

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Ortega: I was shocked because what he was saying it wasn't at all reflecting of what happened.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray was angry at him at the meeting, "I was shocked," Ortega explained.

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Panish; Was he mentally able and stable?
Ortega: I certainly didn't think on June 19th.

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Panish: Did you think MJ was in decline?
Ortega: Yes

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Ortega said all he's familiar with is that Phillips had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray at some point.

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Panish: Did Phillips ever tell you that he had a phone conversation, for 20 minutes, on June 20th with Dr Murray?
Ortega: Yes, through email

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Dr. Murray was upset with Ortega, the director said.

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Ortega described the meeting as "accusatory."
Panish: Who was the one being accused?
Ortega: Me
P: Who was accusing you?
O: Dr. Murray

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Ortega said Dr. Murray began the meeting. He said he had a feeling the meeting would be about the night before and the depth of his concerns

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Ortega left by himself. The others stayed: Jackson, Dr. Murray and Phillips.

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Ortega did not stay very long at that meeting. He estimates 10-15 minutes, definitely under a half an hour.

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Ortega said when he realized the meeting was about him, he stood up to express his feelings.

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Meeting on the 20th was between Michael, Dr. Murray, Randy Phillips and myself. It happened at the parlor in the house.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:58 am

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Putnam: Are you trying to be evasive?
Ortega: No, I'm trying to do my best

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Ortega said the 1st day he met Murray, MJ introduced him as "my doctor." Putnam asked if MJ said Murray was the tour doctor. Ortega said no

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MJ got better as the night went on on June 19th. "He was just more articulated, in the room, warm, engaged and calmed," Ortega said.

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Ortega had never seen MJ physically weak like he saw him on the 19th.

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Ortega explained the 1995 one was the only experience he had with MJ that was similar.

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No one from AEG was present during the 95 incident. Ortega said it was different from the 19th, though. In 95, he was anxious, unhappy.

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Ortega said he had been worried about MJ's mental state before during the HBO Concerts in 1995. "I thought he was anxious," he said.

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Putnam referred back to June 19th. Ortega reiterated that he didn't everything he could that night.

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Ortega said AEG is paying his legal fees because it is their contractual obligation to do so. It's written in his contract.

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Panish said he has no further questions at this time. AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, did cross examination.

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"He loved her dearly," Ortega said about MJ and Katherine Jackson. "He cared deeply about her."

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Regarding the children, Ortega said: "They loved their father, it was very clear, very evident, it was obvious."

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Ortega: He was just there for them, he was concerned about them, he was parental.

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Ortega said MJ gave them Christmas every day of the year. "There was just evidence of fun."

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Ortega: Along w/ the way he talked about his mother, the kids were the single greatest blessing, brought the greatest happiness to his world

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Photo of MJ, Ortega and young Prince:
"Attractive," Ortega joked. "You didn't show my phone number, but showed my profile!

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"Anything Michael wanted to do with me I was interested in," Ortega said.

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Panish showed picture of MJ looking at the viewfinder of the camera used to film movies, Ortega next to him.

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Ortega recalled they had a chance to work together on "This Is It," they made 4 short films.

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Ortega said MJ was fantastic songwriter, singer, musician, dancer and also a filmmaker. "We worked together really, really well" Ortega said

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Panish asked what was MJ's background.
Ortega: He invented music video, the list goes on and on. He raised the bar in every are he worked in

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Panish: How did you react?
Ortega: Yes, please!

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Ortega said MJ had intention to do movies inspired in his songs "Thriller" and "Smooth Criminal."

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Judge asked why he'd get bonus if his job was done. Ortega said it's like getting royalties, since he was one of the creators of the show.

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Ortega said MJ's intention was 2 take the show out 2 the world one more time and end it in the US. Ortega would get bonuses if that happened

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Ortega said he believes Sony kept all the film in a vault so the video would not get leaked.

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Ortega believes AEG paid him everything they owed him for the work done. Sony paid him for the musical documentary.

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Ortega said they never did a full run-through of the show.

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Phillips never said anything at the meeting on the 20th, was more like a bystander, Ortega said.

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"I wanted to believe it was some weirdo calling me, it was a very awkward phone call and I didn't want to believe him," Ortega testified.

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"You have to sit down and get a hold of yourself," Gongaware told Ortega on the phone. "Listen to me, Michael's gone."

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Ortega said Gongaware told him to sit down. Ortega asked Gongaware to tell him something only the 2 would know 2 prove it was Gongaware

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But Ortega said he didn't believe him. "I said I'm not trusting this is Paul Gongaware."

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Gongaware called Ortega from the hospital. "Our boy is gone," Ortega said Gongaware told him.

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Phillips was to pick MJ up at the Carolwood house to bring MJ to rehearsal. Obviously, he never showed up, Panish noted.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:29 pm

Some of these tweets are from yesterday, not sure exactly where today starts and yesterday stops.

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Taj said MJ loved King Tut, he loved Egypt, egyptian culture.

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MJ hired a USC professor to teach him movie directing. Taj said the children also learned from the professor.

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"He was constantly studying and reading about directing, he knew it back and forth and would test us," Taj said.

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Taj said the robot transformer in the "Moonwalker" film was in their honor, because they loved the transformers.

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"It was kind of intimidating to me," Taj said, since he didn't know much about movie and said he needed to learn a lot to become a filmmaker

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Taj said he and MJ share their mutual love for music and movies. They would watch it in different ways, once without sound, then with sound.

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Taj: For him it was about studying, that's what we learned as well. I started at 12 years old, but didn't start 3T until I was about 19.

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"I don't want to give out too many secrets," Taj said, laughing.

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Michael taught Taj and his siblings to listen to the same music several times and hear different instruments each time.

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Taj said MJ would tell him 'you have to carry on the legacy, carry on the torch when I retire.'

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"We were always trying to do what our uncle was doing," Taj said, mentioning the choir in the song.

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The song "I Need You" was a success for them. Chang played a snippet of the music video. MJ was not part of it, just his voice.

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Taj: What's most amazing, it was all in one take, he didn't try again, all you hear was all in one take

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Taj said they were recording down the street from MJ's recording studio. His uncle lent his voice to the end of the song.

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"The demo sounded a little old fashioned, we couldn't hear what he was hearing," Taj said about "I Need You" song.

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Taj: He was a perfectionist when it came to his craft. He would study, study, study, and tell us to study the greatest, top 10 singers.

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"He picked out a lot of our songs, some we didn't like that much and he told us why they were important," Taj testified.

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"It would be foolish not to ask his advise," Taj said, explaining they could, and would, ask anything they wanted.

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Taj said MJ would ask him to watch his kids when he needed. He was also in charge of MJ's storage.

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Chang showed a picture of MJ getting his Hollywood Walk of Fame star. Taj and TJ were present. pic.twitter.com/atWi9ndKgG

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Note MJ wrote Taj. pic.twitter.com/RMBOrB1oOk

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Taj was the piano player. MJ bought him his first instruments.

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"He wrote various notes to me like this," Taj said. "That was probably from my mom telling him we were not rehearsing that much."

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Taj said it is written in a Neverland stationary, has the logo at the bottom.

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Note MJ wrote:
Taj,
I love you all and am proud of you.
PS. please rehearse

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Taj said he has several handwritten notes from MJ that he saved as keepsake.

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"He was definitely our mentor, everything we did in life we kind of geared to what he was doing," Taj explained.

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Taj: Some people would argue we were his (MJ) children before he had his children

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Judge said the attorneys had to discuss issues that takes some time.
Deborah Chang, attorney for the Jacksons, doing direct examination.

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Jury entered the courtroom at 11:20 am PT. Judge apologized to the jury for keep them waiting so long.

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One note reads:
Tohme away from my $ now
No contact
Where's my house (underlined twice)

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Chang said there's an exception if it reflects a feeling, emotional or physical reaction. Judge agreed.

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Jacksons' attorney Debra Chang successfully argued that the notes would be admissible under state and federal evidence code 1250.

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The judge reversed her earlier decision not allowing Jacksons to show the handwritten notes based on hearsay.

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Katherine Jackson is present in a bright coral pink jacquard jacket. Taj Jackson is about to take the stand.

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MJ, Ortega and young Prince. This is the profile photo Ortega joked about it saying he looked "attractive". pic.twitter.com/lSgab2MgGh

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Kenny Ortega and Michael Jackson. pic.twitter.com/yaf9OLu6dg

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Photo shown to the jury of Michael Jackson looking at the viewfinder of a camera, watched by Ortega. pic.twitter.com/uIhfIJ2hP2

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@luv2dance73 We don't know yet if Dr. Murray will take the stand. If he does, it will probably be in the defendants case in chief.

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Judge is now in her chambers waiting for the attorneys to talk amongst themselves to see if they agree on a resolution.

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However, this morning Mrs. Jackson thanked the fans for the flowers and hugged them.

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Side note: Yesterday, some fans brought flowers for Mrs. Jackson. They were not allowed to give them to her, though.

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Session has started this morning. The attorneys are discussing with the judge whether to allow jurors to see some hand notes MJ wrote.

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Erk is supposed to offer info on how much MJ would've earned, mostly from the concert.

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Court adjourned until this morning. Plaintiffs will finish up Taj Jackson and then call Arty Erk -- an entertainment earnings expert.

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Putnam said he's looking fwd to seeing Ortega again in a few weeks. The director has business engagement overseas, won't be back for weeks.

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Putnam: Why?
"Because of the way that they supported him throughout the entire venture," Ortega said.

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Putnam: Any reason to believe they didn't?
Ortega: No
Putnam: Any reason to believe they don't?
Ortega: No

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Putnam asked what Ortega thought Phillips and Gongaware felt about MJ: "I felt they loved him," Ortega responded.

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In one hand, Ortega was saying there was a problem. On the other hand, Dr. Murray said everything was ok. Ortega answered yes.

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Putnam asked if Ortega understands why Phillips was having difficulty figuring out what was going on.

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"Because we were all on the same team," Ortega responded. "I thought we needed to help Michael."

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Ortega didn't contact AEG himself, but asked someone to do it on his behalf. Putnam asked why he wanted to alert AEG about MJ.

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Ortega: Michael wanting to stay and watch, we went on stage, Travis stood in for MJ, we did pyrotechnics if I'm not mistaken, then MJ left.

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@DamoneNavandii It begins at 9:45 am PT tomorrow. Be there by 9 am. Wink

Sorry for the delay...

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After the calls to Dr. Murray, Ortega said Michael was eating, they had late conversation, he was rubbing his feet.

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Putnam showed Ortega's phone records on June 19th. There are 2 calls from Ortega to Dr. Murray and 1 from Murray to Ortega, all very short.

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Ugh!!! Twitter jail again!!! Frustrating, but we want to bring you all the details of the testimony. Please bear with us...

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:34 pm

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He said it could be seen it was documents, that he threw in some stuff as well, but 95% of the stuff was already in the box.

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Taj: The idea of going there was to preserve the stuff. It's something someone can sell on eBay for hundreds of thousands of dollars

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Taj doesn't remember who handled him the box. It was a cardboard storage box.

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"When you travel a lot, living out of luggages, it's messy," Taj testified. "It looks like my place now," Taj said, laughing.

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Cahan asked if MJ was messy. Taj said he wasn't trying to defend his uncle, but understood him.

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Taj testified the house seemed normal, not messy. Taj went to MJ's bedroom on the second floor.

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Taj doesn't remember seeing La Toya that day.
"It's a time I'd rather forget," Taj said.

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Taj doesn't know when he went to Carolwood house. Rebbie and her daughter, Janet, Katherine, possibly Trent and 1 of his brothers were there

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Taj said he doesn't think MJ wanted to live at Neverland again. "It felt violated in a way, the purity of it. It didn't feel the same."

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"Everyone else is making money off of me, I want to take care of my family," Taj said MJ told him.

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Cahan asked if Taj was being paid to take care of MJ's storage. He said at first he didn't want to get paid, but MJ insisted.

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MJ had 2 storage lockers. One in Vegas is half of the size of the courtroom (30x37 feet) and the one in Buellton was at least 4 times bigger

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Taj said the storage was full with stuff from Neverland. It had furniture, arts, arcade games.

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Taj said MJ had sentimental things in the storage that he wanted to keep for his children.

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Taj: The storage unit got tied up and unfortunately we became the victims of it.

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Taj: A company sued our family for not performing at a certain event and they put a lien on the storage.

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Taj said his mom did the same thing, put her valuables in a safe. However, his mom's possession in the storage locker were auctioned off.

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Taj: He had been betrayed his whole life. He knew he could trust me and if something happened to him I would do the right thing.

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Taj said MJ wanted to put the storage facilities in Taj's name.
Taj: There were very few people my uncle trusted.

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"He was constantly recording and writing," Taj said. "He juggled a lot of things."

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Taj heard MJ was recording an album for the news or family members. The album started in 2008, Taj said.

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"I know MJ was on the phone once to stop an auction," Taj said. Call wasn't to Taj though, he doesn't recall talking to MJ on the phone.

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Taj said that when they learned MJ was going on tour, they stayed away and gave him space. They knew they could be a distraction for MJ.

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The last time Taj saw MJ alive was in May of 2009 during his grandparent's 60th anniversary party. He never went to the Carolwood house.

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Taj said he never saw MJ use drugs. "I didn't even know he had moved," Taj said about MJ moving in to Carolwood house in 2008.

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Taj said that after living in Neverland, MJ went overseas and then to Las Vegas. Taj saw MJ maybe twice, when he was at the Bel Air Hotel.

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In 2008, MJ was living in Las Vegas. Taj saw him regularly during that time. "He was definitely happy and healthy, yes," Taj testified.

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Cahan: Did you ever see any signs of MJ using drugs?
Taj: No

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Taj visited MJ in every tour he did: Triumph, Victory, Bad, Dangerous and HIStory. He stayed at the hotels with MJ's, went to his room.

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Taj said he was the one family member who spent the most time with MJ (out of his cousins and extended family.)

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That ended Jacksons side questioning of Taj. AEG attorney, Kathryn Cahan, is doing cross examination.

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Here's MJ's note about Blanket. pic.twitter.com/aKHqohrg9j

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Note cont'd:
"What's your favorite letter Daddy? Mine is "G" for God and "D" for Daddy"
Age 6. Blanket.

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Note Michael wrote to himself:
Words of Blanket my son 6 years young

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Here's Paris' note, shown to the jury. pic.twitter.com/VYPBPfoCDw

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Note cont'd: I'll see you tomorrow! XOX, goodnight and lots of love.
Paris Jackson

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Note from Paris to MJ:
Dear Daddy,
I love you so much & I'm so happy I got a goodnight hug. Sleep well, I love you & good night.

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Taj said he's familiar with Paris' handwriting, has seen her doing homework.

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Taj kissed his grandmother Katherine shortly before taking the stand in the afternoon.

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Another note Michael Jackson wrote Taj. pic.twitter.com/Wz5gRLFG5C

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Taj's wedding picture pic.twitter.com/xdFX6wRShB

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Photo of Taj and Michael Jackson at Neverland in a roller coast. Also shown last time around. pic.twitter.com/27L50Hhjg2

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Picture of Taj, his siblings and his late mother, shown to the jury last time Taj testified. pic.twitter.com/EjLFhc9sM3

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Judge then broke session for lunch. Testimony should resume within 30 minutes.

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Taj retrieved a box of documents from MJ's storage. The attorneys stipulated some of the notes were MJ's handwriting.

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Taj said when his mother died, he lost a lot of things either in storage or they were auctioned off and it was very painful for them.

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Taj said after MJ died he went to Carolwood house to collect some of MJ's belongings. He said he wanted to keep them for his cousins.

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2- Loving Keepsakes (notes)
3- "To Do" Topics to Cover During Meetings to Have Others Do

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Taj explained the system MJ had in his life.
Types of Documents
1- Inspirational ("Law of Attraction")

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Taj said MJ kept several items as mementos. Taj ran through a window at Neverland when he was 3 and MJ kept the blanket he was wrapped in.

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Chang showed picture of a mirror with several notes hang on it. "Michael was very sentimental," Taj said.

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Taj said MJ would write down his ideas and what he wanted to achieve. He would see his uncle write on anything he could write.

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Michael believed in "What you conceive, you believe, you achieve," Taj testified.

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Taj estimated over 100 meetings over the phone, probably over 20 in person.

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"He liked to conduct meetings usually over the phone," Taj said. MJ would keep the phone on speaker so Taj would learn the business dealings

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Taj said he witnessed MJ writing notes to himself. He said he learned it from his uncle and keeps notes himself nowadays.

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Taj said he would stay with his uncle weeks at times. He said he lived at Neverland for about a year, majority of times with his uncle.

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Captain EO was directed by Francis Ford Coppola and is playing at Disneyland. It's a 3D science fiction film with MJ's music.

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MJ wanted him to study 3D, Taj said, since he loved the technology and wanted to do things with it. He wanted Taj to master it.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:40 pm

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Judge adjourned session until Monday at 10 am PT. Erk is ordered to return. There will be no session tomorrow, a jurors asked the day off.

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MJ wanted to have a team show in Las Vegas based on Neverland. Erk calculated its earning, use of music for royalties.

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The categories in Tier 1 that Erk analyzed was Touring, Merchandising, Sponsorships and Endorsement, Las Vegas and Royalties.

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"I was retained to calculate MJ loss of future earning capacity due to his untimely leave," Erk said.

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Erk described his extensive background in the industry. He has worked with rock back Kiss, did royalty audits.

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Erk said they have 10 sports clients in football and baseball. He became a CPA in 1978.

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Erk is in the entertainment group, handle finances for entertainment. "Music happened to be my particular specialty," Erk said.

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Plaintiffs then called his next expert witness, Arthur Erk. He's a CPA for Citrin Cooperman, partner in the firm in New York.

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Here's the tweet Taj wrote: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Cahan said she has no question at this time.
Taj was excused, may be subject to recall.

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Cahan then showed Taj a tweet he sent in 2011. "That's not the same Grace," Taj said. "That was Nancy Grace!" Everyone started laughing.

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Grace Rwamba was the children's nanny.

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@tajjackson3 is Taj's twitter account. Cahan asked Taj if he thinks Grace Rwamba is a truthful person. "Yes," Taj answered.

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Judge said they are only to consider the relationship between Michael and the children when assessing damages, if any.

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Judge read admonition to jury. She said there was a question regarding the status of Debbie Rowe's relationship with the children.

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Plaintiffs asked for sidebar since judge ruled that no parentage question were to be asked. AEG said Debbie Rowe is the kids' biological mom

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"She started a relationship with Paris, that's as far as I know," Taj said. Rowe is Prince and Paris' biological mother.

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Cahan: Has Debbie Rowe gotten back involved with the children?
Taj: Yes

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Taj has spent a lot of time with MJ's children after his passing. "We've been a unit," Taj said.

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MJ had his own record label, MJJ. Taj said MJ was concerned in putting 3T under his label in case something went wrong they would blame him.

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Taj said he was planning to go to London to see his uncle Michael performing.

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"Code Z was kind of my homage to my uncle," Taj said. "We did kind of zombie tribute to him." It was a fake trailer, not made into movie yet

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The last 3T album was in 2003. "We dropped everything after Michael passed to be with his kids," Taj explained.

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Taj: I'm sure he would partner with, he wanted to partner with Peter Jackson at one point. I wasn't exclusive to him

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Cahan asked if MJ ever told him he wanted to partner with Kenny Ortega, not him, to make "Thriller" 3D movie.

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"His last words to me: After this, we're doing films," Taj recalled.

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MJ's son, Prince, was going to make movies with them too. "I'm sure more powerful people would be involved too, not just us," Taj said.

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After "TII" tour ended, MJ and Taj would make movies. "I think when TII ended, he would've shifted his focus to films primarily," Taj said.

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Taj said he left the security computer at Hayvenhurst house. He hasn't seen the computer since.

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Michael Amir said there was no music in that computer. The Estate, thus, was not interested in the security computer.

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Taj said he called Michael Amir Williams but the password he gave him didn't work.

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Judge said the computer stuff had already been litigated during pretrial.

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Attorneys in the hallway said judge asked for it because she wanted to know why they were spending so much time on the computer issue.

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The music computer was given to the executors of Michael's estate, Taj said.

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"The Estate was looking for 4 hard drives with music in it," Taj said. He thought that's what was being given to him.

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Taj could not access it, since he didn't have the password.

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Taj: I turned 1 of them on, it had music files. Turned the other one on and had log in request, with Mr. Amir's name, asking for a password

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Taj is still working with MJ's Estate.

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Taj: It was known Estate was looking for music for MJ's new album. I'm assuming Jeffrey knew I was helping Estate out in that aspect of it.

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"He handed them to me," Taj said. They were Mac Towers. Taj is not sure whether he got the screen as well or not.

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Jeffrey Phillips, business partner of my aunt La Toya, gave him the computers, Taj said. He was at the Hayvenhurst house.

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One was a computer with music, one was a computer used by the security team, Taj said.

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He turned over the entire box to his lawyer. Taj said he was given two computers from the Carolwood house.

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"I protected that box with my life," Taj said. He kept it hidden in his closet of his house.

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The lawsuit was filed in 2010, Cahan said. Taj: "I don't even know they remembered I had the box."

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Taj turned over the box of documents to Sandra Ribera, one of the Jacksons attorney early this year.

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Taj took the box to his house. He said he skimmed through some of the documents. This was in the Summer of 2009.

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Taj said he received a computer for safe-keeping.

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"It was traumatic enough to be in that room so I just wanted to get out of there quickly," Taj recalled.

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"The box was given to me in the master bedroom, I just assumed the documents were from that area," Taj said.

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Taj said he only stayed in his uncle's master bedroom, closet and bathroom.

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ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m Erk: For artist to release song must go to publisher of songwriter or major publishing company to exploit this particular songwriter's song.

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ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 30s Use license exists whether it is artist on internet who is not signed by a record label or record company, Erk explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 53s Songwriter completes a song, Erk said. A self-published individual will write notes and lyrics, sends to copyright office in Washington D.C.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8m Erk explained business management, paying bills, intellectual property. A master recording is when artist records trak in studio, Erk said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9m Side note: Judge Yvette Palazuelos got a hair cut. :-)

Katherine Jackson was in court for the morning session, but not for the afternoon.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10m Hello everyone. Day 48 of Jackson family vs AEG trial has just concluded. Plaintiffs' expert witness Arthur Erk was back on the stand.

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:33 am

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Total Projected Economic Damages: $1,511,182,374 billion for MJ's loss of economic earning capacity based on $200 ticket minus MJ's expenses

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Erk: The demand here was so wild, they could probably sell the tickets for a much higher price and still sold out shows.

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Panish asked if the price could've been higher. Erk said AEG did not expect this wild demand.

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Erk calculated MJ's ticket price average of $108.18. "He's the top of the pyramid," the expert opined.

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Only two artists were sold out for all the shows in 2009: U2 and Madonna. Billy Joel and Elton John almost sold out, Erk said.

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In the top 25 grossing acts in 2009, Paul McCartney had 10 shows but was 3rd grossing, since he had very expensive tickets and big venues.

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Billboard is the music industry magazine, which has a top Box Office for concerts.

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Tier 1 are top artists: U2, Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, Erk said. “MJ is in a class of his own, King of Pop, no one came close."

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Erk explained that Tier 1 is what is reasonably assured MJ would've done, no speculation, very conservative estimate.

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Erk said MJ's albums did “quite fantastically” worldwide, sales doubled and tripled around the world.

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Erk said he didn't consider MJ's past tour attendance since MJ said This Is It, it was going 2 be his final tour; he adjusted the projection

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He estimated the actual seat projection to be 12.9 million, out of 5.9 billion people, would generate MJ revenue of $452,155,095.

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Erk showed chart w/ projections of seats they figured would be sold for MJ touring in Great Britain, Central Europe, Asia, Australia and US.

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Panish: How do you assess ticket prices?
Erk: We took the top 5 grossing tours and took average ticket price.

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O2 arena has 20K seat capacity. They sold 750K tickets for 50 shows. Erk said 1.4% of Great Britain's population bought tickets for the show

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Erk said AEG determined what the gross revenue would be 4 tickets, estimated merchandise sales 4 shows based on 30 shows originally, not 50

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AEG prepared budgets. One was at $1.45 exchange rate and another at $1.65, since they used British pounds.

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Erk used several emails from Randy Phillips to show AEG's plans for future tours. In one, Phillips said MJ sold 750K tickets in 5 hours.

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Panish: When you say conservative analysis, why?
Erk: Because I used AEG’s budget numbers that I translated.

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Erk assessed a numerical value for possible losses based on extremely conservative estimates.

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The expert said he saw evidence MJ wanted to do shows in Las Vegas and had intention to record future music.

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He read emails of AEG's plans, budgets, handwritten notes of MJ's; read Ortega's testimony whether MJ would be successful in film industry.

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Erk reviewed depositions, AEG contract w/ MJ, picture/development deal that MJ signed w/ AEG, trial testimony, Ortega and Faye's contract

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He said Bravado is largest merchandising outfit company. Erk examined AEG's budget, which initially called for 30 "This Is It" shows.

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Erk described his experience in the business. He's worked with lots of artists, intellectual property, business management, royalties.

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Erk also calculated that MJ would've done a thematic show and would've earned additional royalties on “grand rights.”

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He assessed areas of touring, the movie was going out on tour, merchandise (t-shits, hats), endorsements (ads, might get signage at arena.)

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The longer you live the longer the copyright goes, Erk said.

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Panish: When someone dies, what happens?
Erk: The average male recording is 75 years. MJ lost 25 years of copyright income.

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The deal got done without that song. Erk said MJ was smart enough to keep his own copyrights.

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Erk: We valued catalogue at 40 million. He assessed at 49MM, also didn't want 2 give up Penny Lane because he had family member w/ that name

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Erk: It was our job to go to Robert Holmes a Court, Australian billionaire who owned the catalogue. It was a testing of wills.

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"We call it net publishers share, that is amount publisher is left after paying all co-writers and everyone else," Erk said.

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When MJ’s manager John Branca was pursuing the Beatles catalogue, with 4,000 songs, Erk was hired to determine the value.

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“When you have that many sales, there is usually money there, that means they didn’t pay according to the contract," Erk explained.

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The expert has done royalty work for Jackson in mid-80’s. In 1983, he did it for "Thriller," one of the largest selling albums of all time.

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Erk said he charges normally hour rate of $475. He has worked in a little over 200 hours on this case.

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Erk explained that to be a Gold album, it must sell 500,000 copies, Platinum is one million and Diamond is 10 million sales.

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Panish asked if Erk knows some of MJ's #1 songs. He responded Beat It, Billie Jan, Man in the Middle, Heal the World, Can’t Stop Loving You.

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"MJ was a tried and tested songwriter and artist from the time he was 5," Erk explained saying he differed from other artists who have died.

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As Business evolved, biz managers became more savvy, writers wouldn't give up 100% of copyright, would sell 50% still get co-publishing deal

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Used to be songwriter gives up right and becomes a member of staff, Erk explained.

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In Film, there's synchronization license to get the right to hear the song in the film. It requires a world wide license.

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In a Print, Folio (printed song material) a songwriter gets 10% of price, Erk testified.

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He explained the formula radio stations use to calculate and collect over the air royalties

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The publisher gets 50 cents for every song and artist gets 50 cents, Erk said.

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Twitter jail!!!! Reached the limit, but barely started... Lets try now again

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:37 am

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Strong: Did you take into account any of his prior failed projects?
Erk: No. He needed to work

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Strong laid out several lawsuits MJ had for failing to perform. Erk said he had not reviewed any of the prior lawsuits.

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There was $5.3 million in judgment for breaching contract. Erk said he didn't even know about this judgment, didn't use it in his opinion.

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"Did Mr. Jackson break the Jan. 14, 1999 contract by failing to perform the Millennium Concerts?" Jury answered "Yes."

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Marcel Avram was the promoter. "And he also spent some time in jail," Erk said. Strong showed a judgment Avram v MJ for breach of contract.

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Strong asked Erk if he knew MJ was ordered to pay $5 million in breach of contract for backing out of the Millennium Concerts.

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Erk said he would not have changed his opinion if he knew MJ was using Propofol.

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Erk said he didn't consider MJ's use of Propofol, drug abuse. "I'm not aware he was a drug abuser" Erk said; didn't review medical record.

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Strong: Did not consider MJ was taking Demerol in a regular basis?
Erk: No, I did not

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For his projections, Erk assumed MJ was in good health.

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"Had he lived, I believe he would've performed the shows," Erk testified. "I believe had he lived he would've taken the stage."

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Erk said he had triple fusion surgery just before giving deposition.

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Erk said TII sold 750K tickets in 5 hours, 525K people waiting to buy tickets. "Never done before, never done again," Erk testified.

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Strong: At the time MJ passed away, TII was expected to be 50 shows, correct?
Erk: First leg, yes

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"The show was called This-Is-It, he was going to blow it out," Erk said, adding MJ planned on earning as much money as he could.

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Erk: 4 more tours, until age 66, was my professional opinion.

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Strong: Had MJ not died in 2009, you estimate he would've gone on tour 3 more years, 4 more tours after that until age 66, correct?

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Erk's firm has spent 650-700 hours for total efforts of all the employees in the company, including his 200 hours, in this case.

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Erk never met Michael Jackson. Strong asked if Erk had personal conversation with MJ about his future plans. He said no.

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Erk: I relied of what should've been an expert, AEG's numbers.

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Strong questioned Erk's expertise in tours, endorsements, merchandising, Las Vegas shows.

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Strong said Erk estimated MJ would do 260 shows for TII tour, plus 4 more tours after that. She asked if that wasn't too much. He said no.

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Erk testified he prepared tour budget before. But in his deposition, Erk said tour budget was not part of his responsibilities.

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Largely, Erk said he made estimations based on touring, but he is not a tour manager.

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Erk said he spends half of his time doing business management and other half of royalty compliance.

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Panish then announced he concluded his direct examination. AEG's attorney Sabrina Strong did the cross examination.

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Erk calculated 4 more tours through 2024. Projected Income to MJ -- Merchandise $79,407,278.

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Tier 2 is future touring. $373,985, 179 -- total projected economic damages for Tier 2, including merchandising.

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Erk did not calculate how much money MJ could earn making movies. He said he thought it was best left for the jury to decide.

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Panish asked if Erk is familiar w/ artists saying this is it and returning to tour. "Not to me personally, but I've seen in the public eye."

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"I think their opinion is that there would be no loss of future income," Erk said about AEG economist and accountant expert. Erk disagrees.

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Future Loss Minus Professional Fees: 10% fee -- Range from $1.014 billion to $1.764 billion; 20% fee -- range $901,600,000 to $1.568 billion

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Professional fees: entertainment attorney, business manager and personal manager. Erk calculated MJ would have 20% expense in fees.

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Future Loss: For 37 months $1.127 billion - $1.511 billion; For 48 months $1.462 billion - $1.96 billion.

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Erk said the calculation in Tier 1 was based on things MJ was reasonably assured of doing. "I tried to err on the low side."

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Royalties, for use of music, would pay 5% of box office: $102 million total.

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Projected Income to MJ - Vegas: $269 million. That was for Vegas show after MJ died, where MJ did not have to perform.

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Erk said he could not compare Beyonce with MJ. "He was the King of Pop," Erk explained. "There was no other like him."

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He added $50 million clothing endorsement and came up with $317,354,032.

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MJ's TII Gross (2009 and 2010) -- $638.976.138 Erk did a calculation based on Beyonce's Pepsi deal and came up with $267,354,032.

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Beyonce had a Pepsi endorsement deal of $50 million in 2012. Her most recent tour gross revenue was $119,500,000.

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Erk projected MJ do 260 shows, average of 2 per week. He said MJ was much bigger than any other artist.

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"My belief and perception of AEG executives as well, there's no other artist like Michael Jackson," Erk opined.

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He said he had MJ on a much reduced tour, period of hiatus, another reduced tour, and decline from there up until he was 65 years old.

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Erk then calculated Tier 2 category, which is for future earnings for business MJ would most likely do.

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Erk said he's been in the business for more than 34 years. He said artists always go back to do what they are good at.

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The assessment was based on the price of ticket sales. The estimate of MJ's gain was between $1.127 million and $1.511 million.

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Erk analyzed five categories: Tour, Merchandise, Endorsements, Vegas shows and Vegas royalties.

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Judge told jurors they might have to have new procedures to protect them, but judge doesn't want to discuss that just yet.

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She admonished everyone again that no pictures are allowed in the courtroom/courthouse. The windows are now covered, Sheriffs investigating.

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Outside the presence of jury, Judge Palazuelos told audience that someone took picture of courtroom and/or jury through the courtroom window

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Total projected income based on $108.18 ticket price: $1,261,745,023

by **Admin** Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:54 pm

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h "Billie Jean" and "Man in The Mirror"are the right songs.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h To see Katherine Jackson's deposition, watch @ABC7 and go to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . We hope to see you tomorrow! Good night everyone!

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Judge told defendants' attorneys to be prepared to start their case in chief on Monday.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Panish said he will try to finish this week. Witnesses to come: Erk, an economist, Dr. Brown, Katherine Jackson and maybe Tom Barrack.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Judge said mid-September has school starting, "it is just the nature of the beast."

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Apparently in August and September, there will be a lot of days off. There are 3 weeks with only 2 day of session scheduled.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Attorneys discussed future calendar, it looks like jurors are having problems and need time off.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h "I certainly hope it is final judgment," judge said, adding she doesn't want to have to undo anything. More on that tomorrow.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Panish asked if he should present all the lawsuits AEG has been a defendant, like the boy who fell and died at Staples Center.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h After jury left, Panish said he wanted to put on the record that AEG didn't know if the $5.3 million judgement was ever reversed on appeal.Expand

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Judge adjourned session until 9:30 am tomorrow. Erk is back on the stand, only morning session scheduled for tomorrow.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Strong also said MJ spent $435,000 on air fare and hotels in two months period in early 2000s.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Strong said there's testimony MJ was a heavy traveler, used charter planes and stayed at the finest hotels, would take over entire wings.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Erk relied on a memo to come up with MJ's monthly consumption. It has handwritten notes amounting to $570k.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Strong: Mr Erk, are you aware Mr. Jackson generally spent more than $570K a month to live between Jan 2000-June 2009?
Erk: I don't know that

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Strong asked if Erk's opinion was based on pure speculation. Erk said it was not speculative, he had reasonable assurance MJ would perform.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Strong played KJ's deposition. She said he was a bit surprised with MJ going on tour since MJ didn't want to do Moonwalk on stage at 50.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 12h Erk said he didn't consider the fact MJ didn't tour/perform in 12 years or Prince's testimony that his father didn't want to tour anymore

by **Admin** Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:57 pm

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by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:10 pm

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We hope to see you tomorrow for complete coverage of the trial. Have a nice one, everybody. Court begins at 9:45 am PT tomorrow.

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After that, both attorneys gave us interviews about their views of the case. Watch complete coverage @ABC7 and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Both attorneys were shouting to each other, court clerk asked them to knock it off, called sheriffs.

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After session ended, attorneys for both sides had a heated exchange of words in the hallway when they were talking to media and fans.

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Katherine Jackson will probably be plaintiffs' last witness. It's still unclear when the matriarch will take the stand.

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Jacksons' attorney still wants to finish his case by the end of the week. There's no afternoon session today.

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Judge adjourned session until 9:45 am PT tomorrow. Erk to resume on the stand. Strong estimates another half day of cross, judge gave 2 hrs

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Erk said if there was no negotiation, yes, he would not be able to perform there.

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Strong asked if Erk knew the stadium in Salt Lake City was for sports events only and that MJ would not be able to perform one show there.

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"There are a lot of wealthy people in India," Erk said.

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Strong asked if Erk used the same price for tickets in all shows, in different countries. He said yes, just adjusted inflation.

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MJ never performed at the Rose Bowl, Strong said. Panish objected saying MJ performed at Superbowl half time there and it was sold out.

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Strong: You had MJ selling out Rose Bowl three times?
Erk: Yes

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MJ was on a category of his own, Erk said, he was the King of Pop, could not be compared to any other artist.

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Erk said MJ needed to work, needed the money, so had incentive to perform all shows.

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Strong: You estimated Mj would've sold 100% tickets for all the show?
Erk: Based on the huge, excessive demand, yes

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Strong asked if people had issue w/ MJ dangling a baby over the balcony of hotel. He said for a short time yes, but not to affect attendance

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Erk said he spoke with Prince on Saturday and he said MJ told him they were going to Asia.

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Strong asked if MJ never agreed to do more than 50 shows. Erk said he doesn't know if he agrees with that.

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Erk said he doesn't think the child molestation trial would have any impact on whether people would attend his show.

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Number of tickets sold in "Bad" was close to 4.5 million. "HIStory" tour sold about the same number of tickets, 4.5 million.

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Strong: Just like with the number of shows, MJ never sold anywhere near 13 million tickets, correct?
Erk: Yes

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Regarding the ticket numbers, Strong said that for the 260 tours, Erk's assumption was that it would sell approximately 13 million tickets.

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"I packed a lot of shows in to go out with a bang," Erk said.

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Strong asked if Erk's projection is inconsistent with MJ's tour history. Erk said the show was called This Is It, his final extravaganza.

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Bad -- $125 million gross. "I can tell you that show was fantastic!," Erk opined on Bad tour.

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Strong: And is that conservative?
Erk: Yes

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Strong: You estimated gross of $1.5 billion for 260 shows and the highest you know MJ ever did was $165K?
Erk: Yes

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Even though HIStory was the highest grossing tour for MJ, he didn't take home any money, according to Paul Gongaware's testimony.

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MJ's highest gross tour is "HIStory" -- $165 million for 82 shows. It ranks number 26 on the highest grossing tours of the all time.

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Strong said Erk calculated MJ would gross in "This Is It" more than 10 times he ever grossed before in a tour.

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Strong: Now you have him in one tour, 12 years later, at age of 50, doing 260 shows?
Erk: Yes

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HIStory tour, 1996, MJ was 38 years old -- 82 shows. Total of 275 shows if added all together.

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Dangerous tour: began in 1992, MJ was about 33 years old, had 73 shows. Strong said Gongaware testified it was about 70 tours.

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Strong asked Erk if MJ's record high of number of shows was 123 shows for "Bad" tour in 1987 when MJ was 29 years old. He said yes.

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The expert said Randy Phillips, a top AEG Live executive, said in an email they would probably do a four year tour.

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Question to followers: Do you think MJ wanted and/or could have done either 260 shows in 37 months or 338 shows in 48 months?

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Using the simple 30% increase calculation, there would be an additional 78 shows, totaling 338 shows in 48 months.

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Erk said he didn't calculate how many more shows would be required to fulfill a 48 month tour.

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The increase would be based on higher ticket sales and merchandising. He didn't include endorsement, which could be higher too.

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Erk said there was testimony that MJ could've done a 48-month tour, which would increase revenue in approximately 30%.

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Strong questioned Erk about his 260 tours estimates. She reiterated there's no AEG document saying MJ would ever do 260 shows.

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Strong showed Erk's overview of the 260 shows the expert projected MJ would do had he lived, within 37 months.

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Strong: The artist usually had the final decision?
Erk: Yes, they have final say but consult with the professionals that surround them

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Strong said Erk's opinion assumes that MJ would do something he had never done before.

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Erk: In my and my partner's experience, we are very good in judgments. We boiled down what we thought was important for the calculations

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Erk explained he's been doing this for 34 years and it would've taken an untold amount of man hours to go through all the documents.

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Erk said the estimate of cost of his firm's work in this case is $300,000. He didn't review thousands of pages, eliminated all unnecessary.

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Erk said he reviewed documents attached to depositions explaining MJ's yearly earnings and consumption.

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Strong asked if Erk knows how much money MJ earned in 2001, 2002, 2003. He said no and that it had no relevance to his assessment.

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Erk said his job was not to consider whether MJ was going to repay his debts. He was hired to estimate MJ's earning capacity had he lived.

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Strong said $1 billion Erk estimated didn't include repayment of MJ's debts. (Implication is you can't get damages for money to repay debts)

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Strong asked if MJ spent $20 to $30 million a year more than he was earning. Erk said yes.

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Strong: And that doesn't account for million dollars shopping spree?
Erk: I don't call it consumption, I call it fun money

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Strong then said assuming Siegel quit because MJ couldn't control his spending, if that would've affect his consumption numbers. Erk said no

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Strong asked if Erk knows why Siegel quit his job with MJ. Jacksons' attorney objected to the form of question.

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Barry Siegel is one of MJ's former accountant.
Strong said Siegel noted MJ had substantial income coming in and higher expenses going out.

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Historically, MJ spent more money than he earned, Strong said. Erk said that based on the accountant's testimony, yes.

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"The reason he was going on tour was to get himself straight, earn money to

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Strong asked if Katherine Jackson's Hayvenhurst home was about to go in foreclosure. Erk said yes.

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Strong talked back about consumption, which is the amount of MJ's expenses. She said MJ was $400 million in debt when he died.

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AEG Live never projected MJ would do 260 shows, Strong asked. Erk agreed.

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Strong: AEG Live never projected MJ would've earned anything close to the $900 million you estimated, correct?
Erk: That's correct

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Katherine Jackson arrived late. She is wearing a graphic print jacket, bold black leafs on white background.

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Plaintiffs' expert witness, Arthur Erk, back on the stand. Sabrina Strong, attorney for AEG, resumed cross examination.

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Here's AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam. Watch complete coverage on @ABC7 and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] pic.twitter.com/ebGPSW4cZU

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Day 49 of trial has just concluded. Here's Jacksons' attorney Brian Panish speaking with our reporter. pic.twitter.com/K7OcHkFyZe

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:26 pm

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However, Paris also said it was a world tour. "How did you know that?
Because he told us we were going around the world," Paris said.

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Strong played Paris Jackson's deposition regarding future plans: Paris says her dad wanted to relax, didn't want to tour anymore.

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Strong asked if Erk recalls Katherine Jackson saying MJ didn't want to do the Moonwalk after he was 50. He said yes.

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Strong: You testified in your depo you have no idea whether MJ would be successful at making movies, correct?
Erk: That's correct

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Strong: Do you know any tour that ever grossed that much?
Erk: No. This would've been world record breaking tour

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Erk said AEG had no idea of the demand and when the shows were sold out in a matter of hours they knew they could take the show everywhere.

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"It shows they clearly intended to take him around the world," Erk said about the email on the plan, mentions a net to MJ of $132 million.

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Erk said he relied on email exchanges from September 2008 that included records, movies and others, such as worldwide tour.

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Approximately 13 million tickets sold, 260 shows, merchandising and endorsement estimate.

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Erk's projection:
Net revenue to MJ, 260 tour $460 million
Merchandising $121 million
Endorsements $317 million
Net number of $890.5 million

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Strong showed a side-by-side demonstrative of AEG's and Erk's projection.

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AEG did not project a single dollar in endorsement in this budget or any other budget that Erk saw.

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AEG projected 750,000 tickets sold and didn't estimate revenue of merchandising.

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Strong said the range AEG Live was projecting MJ would take home for performing all 50 concerts at O2 arena was between $22 and $30 million.

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Alternative budget had projection of a little over $30 million, Strong showed.

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Net Income, amount of money AEG Live projected MJ would take home had he performed all 50 shows at the O2 arena: little over $22 million

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AEG's projection of what MJ would take home was a little over $20 million, according to the budget Strong showed.

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Strong asked Erk if he relied on AEG's own budget to come up with his estimations. He said yes.

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Going back to Beyonce, Strong asked if Beyonce ever had negative publicity. "As far as I know, no," Erk responded.

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"The outstanding, unprecedented demand for tickets took care of that," Erk said.

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Strong asked if MJ's molestation accusations and trial affected his estimation in the endorsement deals.

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Strong: You are not aware of any endorsement or sponsorship deal for TII tour being in place when MJ died?
Erk: No

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Erk: By evidence of selling so many tickers, I have no other way to come to that conclusion, but based on the facts of tickets sold, yes

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Erk: If you need a yes or no answer, the answer is yes

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Strong: So my question was, do you think MJ's image was rehabilitated to get an endorsement deal?

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"I think AEG was more concerned with people in the US than worldwide," Erk said.

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Strong: Was his image rehabilitated by June 2009?
Erk: It wasn't consideration on my part since it sold so many tickets in a short time

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"What I do know as fact is that the demand was there," Erk said. "The demand was there, I think that is unquestionable."

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Strong asked if Erk thought MJ's image was rehabilitated in June of 2009.

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"I answered before I didn't see the contract, my firm doesn't have Beyonce, I couldn 't confirm the deal."

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"If the reported figures are correct, the 42% is correct," Erk said.

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Strong asked if Erk knows for a fact that Beyonce's endorsement deal being 42% of gross revenue is true.

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Strong questioned whether Erk always trusted the media reports to be true. He said no, but no one disputed Beyonce's endorsement number.

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Erk said that most endorsement deals are private, Beyonce's was the only one that was made public through the media.

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Strong inquired Erk whether he knows any other artist who has endorsement being 40% of gross revenue.

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Strong: Do you know if anyone ever used your methodology to estimate endorsement deal?
Erk: No

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Beyonce's most recent gross was close to $120 million. The Pepsi deal was, reportedly, $50 million, which is almost 42% of the tour revenue.

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Erk said he relied on news reports regarding Beyonce's Pepsi deal. He didn't actually see the deal himself.

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Erk came up with $50 million for clothing endorsement based on earlier deal of $28 million plus inflation/financial adjustments to year 2009

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"Speculative is hope," Erk opined.

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She then asked if the $50 million figure was speculation. Erk said no that he had reasonable belief shows would happen, clothes would sell.

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Strong questioned whether Erk really thought MJ, at 50 years old, would be a fashion icon for young audience. He said yes.

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Erk said MJ's clothing would become a fashion statement and that people would want to wear it. Thus the demand.

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Erk estimated clothing endorsement to be $50 million and $217 million based on a calculation of a Pepsi deal Beyonce had in 2012.

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Back to testimony. Strong asked Erk about sponsorship/endorsement. He estimated MJ would get $317 million in the "This Is It" tour.

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Judge said attorneys are trying their best to expedite things, but with some days off and lots of witnesses estimate is stretched further.

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When jurors took their seats, Judge Yvette Palazuelos told them they have a better estimate for end of trial to be in mid-September.

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Jacksons' attorney Brian Panish and AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam shouted words to each other. Sheriffs were summoned to calm them down.

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Yesterday, after session concluded, attorneys for both sides were in the hallway speaking to the media and got angry at each other.

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Earlier today, the court sent email to all media members that interviews are to be conducted only in approved areas or outside the building.

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Judge called attorneys for both sides into her chambers for a sidebar.

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This comment was made in light of the heated exchange between the attorneys in the hallway yesterday while talking to the media and fans.

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Outside the presence of the jurors, judge told everyone to follow the rules of the court and that things are getting out of hand.

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Jackson's expert witness, CPA Arthur Erk, is back on the stand for cross examination. Sabrina Strong, for AEG, doing the questioning.

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Hello form the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 50 of Jackson family vs AEG trial is currently underway.

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:31 pm

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Panish said this is a document prepared by Gongaware in addition to the 50 shows in the O2 arena.

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More tours:, South America, US starting in Florida, Texas, New Orleans, California, Denver, Utah, Chicago.

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World tour included: Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Paris, Zurich, Milan, Johannesburg, Dubai, Japan, India, Australia, New Zealand

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Panish showed a document Gongaware attached to his projection with a list of tentative venues all over the world.

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Erk said AEG had 1.59 show per week in their projection and Erk had 1.60 shows per week in his projection.

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186 shows over 27 months -- Gongaware projection
260 shows over 37 months -- Erk projection

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Email cont'd: It's a big number, but this is not a number MJ will want to hear. He thinks he's so much bigger than that

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Email cont'd: On paper, it starts Jan 9 and runs thru April 2011...
Right now we project 186 shows... Net to Mikey $132 million

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Email from Gongaware:
MJ first draft worldwide tour projection
Here's a first-draft look at worldwide MJ tour.

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Panish: Did you just make-up this world tour idea?
Eark: No

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Panish: What was it that secured the debt?
Erk: Primarily his Sony/ATV catalogue

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Panish: If you don't have work income, is it possible you're going to spend more than you earn?
Erk: Most likely

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Erk said MJ did not have working income in ten years.

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Erk said MJ had assets to secure loans. Erk explained how the loan of significant amount of money works.

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Panish: Does people usually lend money for people who can't pay it back?
Erk: No

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For professional fees, Erk said he considered 10-20%, anywhere between $3-5 millions.

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Erk said he used $570K/month, which would work out to $6.7 million. He used higher monthly figure, but less annually.

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Panish showed a spreadsheet with all MJ's monthly expenses. The annual consumption based on actual receipts for MJ -- $7.6 million.

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Barbra Streisand is 71 and just finished up shows for AEG as well, Erk testified. Erk said Streisand grossed more than $18 million.

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Keith Richards had a long history of heroine problems, Erk said. He's also almost 69 years old and is touring, doing quite well.

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Mick Jagger is 69 years old, lead singer of the Rolling Stones. He just finished up shows that AEG promoted, Erk said.

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Email cont'd: how well we have rehabilitated him and very lucrative "exotics".

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Email cont'd: taking advantages of the gigantic secondary ticket market, massive sponsoring opportunities subject to

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Email from September 2008 plan:
In July 2009 -- If all goes well, we embark on a well routed and spread out worldwide tour

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"If London goes smoothly, we could migrate this show to the brand new, state-of-the-art stadium in Berlin, the O2 World," Phillips wrote.

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Erk went through the email describing what Phillips' plans were.

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Panish: Would you describe the demand for MJ's ticket a hope?
Erk: No

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Panish: Is there any question in your mind AEG not only believed they could sell out in London but worldwide?
Erk: No question

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Strong objected, and added that there's no question about the demand for the 50 show.

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Panish read a lengthy testimony from Randy Phillips when he said they were all surprised with the demand for tickets and standby people.

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Panish: Was MJ popular and could've sold tickets?
Erk: Absolutely

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"They were the ones selling the tickets, they should be in the know," Erk said.

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Panish asked why he took Phillips and Gongaware's testimony into consideration for his projections and calculation.

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Panish: Did you take that into consideration as to whether or not there would be demand for MJ's tour?
Erk: Absolutely

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Panish showed Gongaware's testimony when he talked about the high demand for MJ's tickets.

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Panish said AEG had questions of Demerol, baby, allegations, trials so he wanted to clear whether there was demand for the tour.

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Panish: Did Phillips make statements as to whether MJ could perform a worldwide tour?
Erk: Yes

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Panish asked if Erk saw evidence AEG was concerned with MJ's health. Erk said only that he passed a physical, was healthy and ready to go.

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Erk said he didn't focus on MJ's health because AEG signed the contract and began spending money, which determined the tour would go forward

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Erk said AEG had the resources to find out about MJ's financial issues and there's no reason to believe they didn't know about MJ's problems

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Panish asked if MJ and Ortega working further together. Erk said MJ wanted to ultimately produce movies.

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Erk said Ortega discussed going to India and Japan with MJ.

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Erk said Ortega's deposition and testimony talked about take this tour on the road, to the world, and that MJ would like for him to go too.

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As to future tours, Erk said Paris testified in her deposition (played earlier today) that MJ told her they would tour worldwide.

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Panish: Assume Phillips said MJ's earnings could rise to 500 million if he did a world tour? Is that consistent with your opinion?
Erk: Yes

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Panish asked Erk 2 assume Phillips estimated MJ would make $50-100 million for London dates if it was consistent w/ his opinion. He said yes

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AEG spent money before even getting to London, Erk testified.

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Erk said he based his opinion on AEG's projection and "if it was good enough for them, it was good enough for me."

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Panish asked if MJ's past and the allegation have anything to do with how much money MJ could earn.

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Regarding Beyonce and her endorsement deal, Erk said the calculation he made came up to 18,5%, not the 42% Strong said.

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Panish: How are his endorsements?
Erk: He's doing fairly well

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Panish: Alex Rodriguez -- has there been allegations against him regarding certain activities?
Erk: Yes, surfacing every once and a while

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As to Tiger Woods, Erk said in 2012, he believes it was reported endorsements went back up to $70 million.

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Panish asked Erk if Tiger Woods had some things that could be viewed as negative allegations against him. He said he believed so.

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Erk: I didn't see anything to that effect.

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Panish: Was there any emails AEG, Philips, Gongaware saying they didn't want to make money off of MJ due to the allegations raised?

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Erk: They entered into the 3 year tour contract as well as movie deal

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Panish asked if Phillips, Anschutz, Gongaware did not enter into an agreement with MJ due to concerns of the allegations?

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Panish: Has Mr. Jackson ever been proved guilty of any allegations that AEG mentioned?
Erk: No

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Katherine Jackson not present in court in the afternoon.
Erk said AEG's experts in the same field as his charge more than him for the work.

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Strong finished her cross examination. Judge broke session for lunch, Jacksons attorney did re-direct in the afternoon.

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Erk: 260 shows were reasonably certain to happen, 195 shows was an estimate based on my professional opinion.

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Strong: So you had him do 455 shows over 5 tours until the age of 66?

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Erk acknowledged MJ did 275 shows between 20-50 years old.

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Strong showed demonstrative with Erk's projection for MJ's future tours:
40 shows at 60 years old
50 shows at age 63
45 shows at age 66

by WeAreTheWorld. Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:35 pm

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During arguments late in the day, judge asked AEG if they intend to call Dr. Murray to testify. Putnam responded he has no intention.

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Erk is excused. Judge adjourned session until 10 am PT tomorrow.
Next witnesses: Dr. Emery Brown (on Propofol) and economist Peter Formuzis

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Panish asked if Gongaware, as good promoter and with the sales he saw, would want more shows. Erk said he would've done as many as he could.

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"It can always go better, but it was fantastic," Erk said.

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Panish asked if selling out in a matter of hours is going well. Erk responded "Yes and then some."

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Panish in re-re-direct: What did he tell his children
Erk: We're going on a worldwide tour

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"He took his children wherever we went," Erk said

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Strong: MJ agreed to only 50 shows at the time he passed away in June 2009, isn't that correct?
Erk: Yes

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Strong: No one at AEG projected the numbers you projected, correct?
Erk: That's correct

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Email from Phillips to Leiweke:
Colony is receptive but skeptical like us as to whether MJ will really work.

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Strong said Gongaware's projection was not near what Erk calculated.

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Back to India, Gongaware projected 3 shows plus one private show. He contemplated 8 shows in Japan plus one private.

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She asked Erk if the email was written without knowing whether MJ would ever agree to it. He said yes.

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Strong talked about the September 2008 email with $132 million projection.

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As June 2009, Strong asked if Erk saw any evidence or sponsorship in place before his death. He said no.

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Erk said he has no knowledge of what AEG tried to do to get sponsorship opportunities for the tour.

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Strong asked if Phillips hoped he could have massive sponsorship opportunities if all went well. Erk said yes.

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Strong: Randy Phillips acknowledged that all had to go well, didn't he?
Erk: It appears that way

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The email mentions 12-14 new songs and then release of series on new singles. Erk said he doesn't know that MJ finish them.

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Email from Phillips to Nanoula in June 2008 detailing the plans for MJ's future: Richard, these are just my off the cuff ideas...

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Strong: Wasn't AEG hopeful for a successful tour?
Erk: You're always hopeful

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Strong: AEG Live had a lot of hope after selling the show?
Erk: I think it's more than hope

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Strong pointed in the email where there was an indication for "a" date in India, not 60 dates in India like Erk projected.

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Strong: And the merchandise projection AEG had was between $8 and $10 million, right?
Erk: Yes, that's what was in the budget

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Erk said he saw it and believes it was maybe in the $10 million range or thereabouts. Erk projected $121 million, the expert said.

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In re-cross Strong asked if Erk saw the June 2009 AEG budget and how much money AEG projected for the sale of merchandising.

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Panish asked if Erk believed it would help sell the merchandise. He said yes.

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Erk said Phillips was striking deal with Bravado to rent empty store in Oxford Circle to offer nothing but MJ merchandising.

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Panish asked Erk if he reviewed this email to determine if the tour in India wasn't just a hope, but plan. He said yes.

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Phillips answered:
Thanks, Thomas. MJ will definitely heading your way

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Email Thomas Overseen saying he had a client with serious interest in MJ's tour in India.

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Email cont'd: I intend to shove those 50 shows up Irving's and Rapino's asses and march on to do another 3 years of a world tour.

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Email from Phillips to Leiweke on April 15, 2009:
He is happy and they picked all male and female dancers.

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Erk said he used stadium shows and bigger arenas because of unprecedented demand.

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AEG projection is $132 million in the low end, $150 million in high end for less shows, less months, Erk said.

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Erk said that prorating the same amount of shows in 37 months, it is almost 260 shows.

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Panish: What are the figures AEG used for worldwide tour?
260 shows for my budget, 37 months
186 shows for 27 months

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Panish asked Erk is he saw multiple AEG documents detailing plans for worldwide tour. He said yes.

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Panish asked why 37 months. Erk said contract between MJ and AEG was 3 years, and he added a month.

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Panish asked if shows in AEG's projection were carried over to 37 months, how many shows would that be?
Erk: Almost 260

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There was a projection of $3-$10 million for private shows. Except with the private shows, Erk says his calculation was similar.

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by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:05 pm

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Dr. Brown said he's trying to give a lay explanation of what the sensations are, so lay people can understand it.

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In cross examination, Kathryn Cahan asked about the difference between euphoria and good feeling after using Propofol.

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Brown: Propofol releases dopamine that can be interpreted as refreshed sensation of natural sleep. But Propofol cannot produce natural sleep

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Propofol causes release of dopamine, Dr. Brown said. Dopamine is kind of like endorphin we hear, it gives you this good feeling.

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Dr. Brown said patients commonly report feeling good, feeling refreshed after being administered Propofol.

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"For surgery, need to add drug for pain," Dr. Brown explained.

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The mild sedation makes patient unconscious, unaware, you can be unaware to pain, provides some component of analgesia, Dr. Brown said.

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For colonoscopy, for example, the procedure is not that painful but uncomfortable, Dr. Brown said.

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"To be clear, Propofol can produce a small part of it (analgesia), makes you unaware," Dr. Brown explained.

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"Propofol produces the unconsciousness state of general anesthesia," Dr. Brown said.

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Dr Brown explained for light procedures Propofol is sufficient to produce mild muscle relaxation. For surgery they add muscle relaxant too.

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Dr. Brown: With Propofol you get unconsciousness, you get amnesia, you can't remember. For pain, you need an analgesic.

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Dr. Brown: You achieve unresponsiveness with Propofol.

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"The first criteria of being under sedation is to be unconscious that you can't be awaken," Dr. Brown said.

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"It overwhelms the sleep and respiratory circuit, cortex," Dr Brown explained. He said it's not possible to go between REM and non-REM sleep

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Dr. Brown: When you give Propofol, it comes in, knocks out all of the circuits, including respiratory circuit, and the cortex.

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Propofol will not produce sleep, Dr. Brown said.

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Dr. Brown: To REM sleep, all the circuits shut down. The control center tells the entire system to shut down; cycle takes roughly 7-8 hours.

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In order to fall asleep, Dr. Brown said you need to shut the brain down.

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Dr. Brown drew a picture how the sleep circuit works. To be conscious, you have to be awake and have to be able to process, Dr. Brown said.

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There's no REM or non-REM sleep under sedation or general anesthesia, Dr. Brown explained. Patients don't go under regular sleep patterns.

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Dr. Brown said sedation, general anesthesia, medical coma is not sleep.

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Dr. Brown: Once you are done, you bring them out of induced coma.

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Dr. Brown explained medical coma: you give enough drugs to go down to a state, hold you there to give a chance for the brain to heal.

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Dr. Brown said there's no way in the world that you can have the normal sleep patterns while under sedation.

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Dr Brown: During sleep you have natural oscillation of states. On general anesthesia we bring you to a stage and hold you there for surgery

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When you sleep, you go into non-REM stage 1, then stage 2 non-REM sleep, stages 3 (slow waves) and 4 sleep non-REM sleep and REM sleep.

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Non-REM -- heart rate slower, breathing a little more regular
Sleep is two states: rem and non-rem

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REM: eyes are moving, brain somewhat in a wake state, body somewhat paralyzed, heart beat irregular

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Koskoff: How about doctors using Propofol as an agent to produce sleep?
Dr. Brown: They would be tremendously mistaken

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Dr. Brown said it's easy for doctors to tell patients they are going under sleep, but his article was exactly to clear up the language.

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Koskoff: Is the state of the brain under Propofol sleep?
Dr. Brown: It is not sleep

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No one had taken the time to put general anesthesia next to sleep next to coma to compare the relationship of the states, Dr Brown explained

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Dr. Brown studied the effects of Propofol in relation with sleep. One of the articles is "General Anesthesia, Sleep and Coma."

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Dr. Brown is not board certified in sleep medicine. He said Dr. Czeisler is world renowned in sleep medicine and circadian rhythm.

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Dr. Brown: The infusion rates found in MJ's autopsy are the same infusion rates when given Propofol for major abdominal procedure.

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Dr. Brown said he published a paper regarding guidelines of use of Propofol.

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Michael Koskoff: Do you agree with that statement?
Dr. Brown: In terms of levels that were there, I do.

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MJ autopsy indicates the amount of medication (Propofol) is similar to what is found in general anesthesia.

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He has been studying Propofol for the past 7 years. Dr. Brown doesn't think there's any other person who has studied the drug more than him.

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Dr. Brown said Propofol is quite potent on a cc to cc comparison with Valium and benzodiazepines.

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Dr. Brown explained:
Induce anesthesia - put person in coma
Maintain anesthesia - as infusion maintains it
Sedative - manage level of pain

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Dr. Brown uses Propofol in almost all the patients he has. It's the most commonly used anesthetic all around the world.

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Propofol is one of the anesthetics Dr. Brown uses. He reviewed MJ's autopsy and the drug was found in his system.

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Dr. Brown said there's tendency to call general anesthesia sleep, but it's not sleep, you wouldn't be able to tolerate surgery under sleep.

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He said you give drugs to induce coma, more to maintain it during the surgery, then reduce to have patient come back.

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Dr. Brown said coma is a state where patient is unable to receive and respond to stimulus.

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"General anesthesia is a type of coma, it's a reversible coma," Dr. Brown said.

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Dr. Brown said the heart rate, blood pressure, breathing and temperature are under control in order to go into surgery.

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Dr. Brown: General anesthesia consists of 4 behavior and physiology status: unconscious, analgesia (no pain), not moving, amnesia.

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In MJ's case, it's a general anesthesia/sedation case.

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Anesthesia can be different, Dr. Brown said: general anesthesia/sedation and regional anesthesia.

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Dr. Brown has given depositions before, but has not testified in court.

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Dr. Brown billed $1,000/hour and asked to donate the funds to Mass General Hospital. The total: $75,000 donated to Mass General Hospital.

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He has written around 140 or so articles for professional journals on medical matters.

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The first 20 minutes of Dr. Brown's testimony was detailing his qualifications.

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Dr. Brown is board certified in anesthesia. He belongs to several professional societies and publications in the field.

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He's also on the faculty of Sleep Medicine Dept at Harvard, did his medical thesis under Dr. Czeisler, who testified earlier in the case.

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Among many of his current jobs, Dr. Brown is an Associate Director at Institute for Medical Engineering Science at MIT.

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He detailed his extensive background in the medical field. Dr. Brown is a practicing anesthesiologist, works at MIT in Massachusetts.

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Plaintiffs called Dr. Emery Brown by way of video deposition. Dr. Brown is an anesthesiologist and practices in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 51 of Jackson family vs AEG trial has concluded. Katherine Jackson not in the courtroom today.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:08 pm

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On June 22nd, he started to wean him off, Koskoff said. That seems to be more accurate description to what was in the report, Dr. Brown said

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Koskoff talked about the police report where Dr. Murray said he gave MJ Propofol every night for 60 nights up until June 21st.

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Dr. Brown said Jacksons' attorneys never told him to testify to something he wasn't comfortable with.

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Dr. Brown doesn't know how much dopamine is released, but said he could check the numbers.

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The effect of anesthesia could last several days, Dr. Brown said, and that's currently under study.

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Dr. Brown: The person may not be the same as they went in. In fact, you don't want the patient to be awake like before a painful surgery.

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Dr. Brown: You may have different levels of being awake.

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In order to maintain sedation, Propofol is given to induce and retain sedation, then decreased to bring the person back, Dr. Brown said.

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"You can be there for several days," Dr. Brown said regarding induced coma.

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Dr. Brown said there's a difference between anesthetizing someone into a coma and someone being in coma from head injury.

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Cahan: And those people don't die as lack of sleep?

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Cahan: Can someone be in a profound coma and live?
Dr. Brown: Yes, many years, there are many cases of that

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Dr. Brown said he was asked to help understand the mechanism of how Propofol work, not asked to analyze Mr. Jackson's behavior.

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Dr. Brown: That's not something I've looked in to

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Cahan: Have you been able to determine how much Propofol MJ was given in the months prior to his death?

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"I have no way of knowing what Dr. Murray did every night when he treated Michael Jackson," Dr. Brown said.

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Cahan asked if Dr. Brown believe Dr. Murray gave MJ Propofol for 60 days prior to his death, according to the LAPD interview.

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Dr. Brown: I noticed some inconsistencies of what he (Murray) said we administer (Propofol) and what he said wasn't correct

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The implication of anesthetics as something that has implication on a patient's sleep if not under my purview, Dr. Brown explained.

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Dr. Brown explained the typical anesthetic has at least 10 drugs. To try to ascribe the effects of Propofol would be exceedingly naive.

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Dr. Brown said he has not queried his patients about their sleep pattern after anesthesia.

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Dr. Brown: And I think I've done that. The effects of anesthesia and sleep are not under my purview.

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Dr. Brown: One of the reasons I agreed to become part of this case was that I wanted to make it clear what the anesthetic does the brain.

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Dr. Brown said he doesn't know what the source was for Dr. Czeisler's 60 days figure. He also noted he's not a sleep expert.

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Dr. Brown said he read Dr. Czeisler's trial testimony and in there the figure of 60 days, or two months, was mentioned.

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The doctor said Dr. Murray's statement was not consistent with the autopsy levels.

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Dr. Brown said he believed Dr. Murray's statement that he only gave a small amount of Propofol to MJ the day he died to be false.

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One of the things Dr. Brown reviewed was Dr. Murray's interview with LAPD, in which the doctor said MJ was taking Propofol for 60 days.

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"I was under the understanding the night he died was not the first night he used Propofol," Dr. Brown testified.

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He said there have been a number of sources for this information, such as the press, high levels of Propofol in his blood at time of death.

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Dr. Brown said his understanding is that MJ was using Propofol for many days, so MJ must've had some perceived benefit.

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"He was not having a restful sleep if he was using Propofol as a sedative for sleep," Dr. Brown said.

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"Good feeling" reaction is a well-known effect of the Propofol, Dr. Brown said.

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Only now studies have been able to determine the release of dopamine associated with Propofol. The study was done in rats, not human.

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Dr. Brown said release of dopamine can cause what some people could interpret as refreshed, invigorated, some people say euphoria.

by WeAreTheWorld. Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:14 pm

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She is expected to talk about MJ from early ages until stardom and death. We're told it will be a very emotional testimony.

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Panish told the judge Mrs. Jackson will need to take a few breaks throughout the day and gets tired in the afternoon.

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Judge adjourned trial until tomorrow morning at 9:30 am PT. Katherine Jackson will take the stand.

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Strong then said she had no more questions to Dr. Formuzis. Cross examination lasted a couple of minutes.

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Dr. Formuzis said it depends how wrong the numbers are. "It would be a proportional degree of errors," he said.

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In cross examination, Sabrina Strong asked if Mr. Erk's projections are wrong, whether his calculations have no meaning.

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Dr. Formuzis did not calculate how much the loss of love, companionship to the children and Katherine Jackson.

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Tier 1 range:
$919,366,479 - $723,523,742 (7% to 18% discount rate)
Tier 2 range:
$187,564,227 to $101,639,514 (7% to 18% discount rate)

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Total includes tour earnings, merchandising, endorsement, Las Vegas show, LV royalty, professional fees (at 15% rate), personal consumption

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Present value:
$108 ticket price
7% - 919,366,479
10% - 856,002,240 -- Dr. Formuzis chose
15% - 768,026,177
18% - 723,523,742

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The lower the discount rate, the more net money left. The lowest discount rate Formuzis used was 7%. He calculated 10, 15 and 18% as well.

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AEG had invested approximately $34 million, so they had confidence they would get that money back, Dr. Formuzis said.

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Dr. Formuzis used 7-10% discount rate. Panish said AEG has an expert calculating 18% discount rate.

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For present value calculation, Dr. Formuzis said you subtract interest and personal consumption to arrive at current figure.

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Dr. Formuzis is only assessing present value of economic loss, not non-economic, like love, companionship.

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Dr. Formuzis has been doing present value calculation for almost 50 years, about 40 years in wrongful death cases.

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Dr. Formuzis is not giving an opinion on what loss would be regarding movies and other things Erk didn't calculate.

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Dr. Formuzis: Some people have the power to make money, ability to make money, but are not doing so

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"Most individuals have capacity, or ability, to earn money," Dr. Formuzis explained.

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Dr. Formuzis was asked to take the income projection created by Mr. Erk and to take those projections and discount them to present value

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Panish asked if he knows anyone more qualified than him to testify in his field. Dr. Formuzis said no.

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Has been retained against Panish's firm too, Dr. Formuzis said.

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Dr. Formuzis has worked with Panish before. He testified for Panish between 20-30 times, was retained between 50-100 by Panish's firm.

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Dr. Formuzis has been qualified as expert witness in at least one thousand cases and had cases in several states in the US.

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Dr. Formuzis has consulted for the Los Angeles commission, several private banks, attorneys involved in wrongful death cases for 40 years.

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Dr. Formuzis is a former Cal State Fullerton professor. He worked at the Federal Reserve in various capacities.

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Dr. Formuzis has a Ph.D in Economics. He described his extensive background and qualifications in the field.

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Video deposition ended. Plaintiffs called their next witness, Peter Formuzis. Brian Panish did direct examination

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by WeAreTheWorld. Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:57 pm

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There was not a lot to do in Gary, Mrs. Jackson said. So the high school had events and the boys would win every time there was a contest.

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They were very young, they danced and sang. Michael was 5 years old, they went on to contests at school, then professional.

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The children would sing and dance, she said. "We always had music in the house."

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Mrs. Jackson: We had an old TV, TV would break, had a TV man take it aways and sometimes didn't have money to get it back.

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The children loved the Temptations and imitated them all the time, Mrs. Jackson said. Panish asked if they had television in the house.

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MJ would be dancing to the squeaking noise. "He was dancing and sucking in bottles," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Mrs. Jackson told a story when she had a Maytag with roller that squeezes water out. It was old and rusty and it would make a squeaky noise

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Panish asked when MJ showed he loved music. "He was born dancing," Mrs. Jackson said. "He was in my arms and couldn't be still, was dancing"

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Michael was always sensitive and loving, Mrs. Jackson said. One day, when his brother was sick, Michael was holding his hand and cried.

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Michael was born Aug 21, 1958. As to this photo: "It shows my sweet little boy to me," Mrs. Jackson said. pic.twitter.com/eFYPVjZMaB

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Picture of Katherine Jackson during her high school years. "Oh my God, that's me," a shy Mrs. Jackson said. pic.twitter.com/nF3u9OfvSE

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Some became Witnesses, Michael, Rebbie and LaToya. The others are not. Her husband wasn't a witness, so they didn't stop holidays right away

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Jevohah's witnesses don't celebrate birthdays or other dates. They celebrate one day, that's Jesus last supper.

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"I searched and found the true religion: Jehovah Witness," Mrs. Jackson testified.

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She was raised Baptist, then became Lutheran and wasn't satisfied with that. When old enough to understand started searching.

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"I was always close to God," Mrs. Jackson said. "II raised my children the best I can with spiritual guidance."

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Michael would spend his money with candy and cookie, Mrs. Jackson said. He would set up a store to sell them.

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Here's a picture of Jackie and Tito's baseball team. pic.twitter.com/rFvqnp95C8

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She said she enjoyed having a large family and lived in a cul de sac near little league field. Jackie and Tito played baseball.

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"I know how to prepare a potato every way you can think of," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Panish: Are you a good cook?
Mrs. Jackson: The kids think so

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She said they didn't want to go on welfare. "We picked vegetables, fruits, keep in the freezer and that's how we survived."

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"I had to live payday to payday," Mrs. Jackson explained. "The money was scarce, we had to eat."

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Mrs. Jackson: I made a lot of clothes, watch the newspaper, bought a lot of things on sale, went down to Salvation Army to get shoes.

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Panish: Did you always have a lot of money?
Mrs. Jackson: No, not at all

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She took a job, between Randy and Janet, since there was a 5 year gap. She was a clerk at Sears and Roebuck.

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Mrs. Jackson said that sometimes she would wake up to them harmonizing singing. Joe worked in a steel mill, was sometimes laid off 2-4 weeks

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Mrs. Jackson said they had bunk beds. Jackie was the oldest, he got his own bunk. Randy was baby, slept in Katherine and Joe's room.

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She raised 9 children:
Rebbie
Jackie
Tito
Jermaine
LaToya
Marlon
Michael
Randy
Janet

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They bought a house on Jackson Street. "It was a coincidence," she said. It looked like a garage in a way. It was a 4 room, 2 bedroom house.

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Mrs. Jackson married Joseph Jackson when she was 19 and he was 21. They lived in Gary, Indiana.

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Michael would spend the day with Make a Wish foundation.

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Mrs. Jackson said Michael loved all children, especially those who had something wrong with them: orphans, hospitals for disable children.

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Mrs. Jackson said she had polio as a child, Infantile Poliomyelitis. "I wore a brace on left leg from age 7 to 9," she said. "I was shy."

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"My father taught us to play the guitar," Mrs. Jackson said. Her sister played the cello. "We always had music around the house."

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Here's a picture of Katherine and her father with Michael Jackson. It was shown to the jury. pic.twitter.com/HAZ1XVhwwP

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She said her mother would open the windows and his song rang over the valley.

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Mrs. Jackson testified the musical talent came from her grandfather on her mother's side, Columbus Brown.

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Mrs. Jackson said MJ named his son Prince because of her family. "He loved my father," she said.

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Panish: When you learned MJ was going to name his son Prince, were you happy?
Mrs. Jackson: Very!

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Mrs Jackson: My son was a very good person. He gave to charity, is on the record for giving to charity. I'm so nervous, I'm so sorry.

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Panish: How does he make you feel that they said they were going to say you son was a bad person?

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"I want to know what really happened to my son and that's why I am here," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Panish asked if she was here to speak on his behalf. "I will do my best," she answered.

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"They are not true," she said. "He's not here to speak for himself."

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"The most difficult thing is to seat there in this court and listen to all the bad things they say about my son," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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She said she's a little hard time hearing. Mrs. Jackson testified she's a private person, she's always in the background of her children.

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Panish: Did you get a lot of sleep last night?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Mrs. Jackson said this is the first time she's testified in court and she is a little nervous.

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She said her date of birth is May 4, 1930, which makes her 83 years old.

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At 9:40 am PT, Katherine Jackson took the stand and was sworn in. She states her full name: Katherine Esther Jackson.

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Brian Panish takes her hand and leads her to the witness stand. Her fingers are curled as she takes the oath.

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Katherine Jackson arrived at 9:27am PT. She was wearing a purple and blue abstract print jacket.

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Our reporter Miriam Hernandez is in the courtroom gathering all the latest info. We are in the overflow room watching the proceedings live.

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As you know, judge does not allow live tweets from the courthouse. We'll bring you complete coverage as soon as we can.

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Our reporter John Gregory will bring all the latest details on @ABC7 Eyewitness News at 11 am PT.

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Katherine Jackson will take the stand today. She's one of the plaintiffs in the case.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 52 of Jackson family vs AEG trial is about to begin.

by WeAreTheWorld. Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:03 pm

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The other children told her it would mean much more if she went. "When we got there, Michael was fine," Mrs. Jackson said.

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She said she tried an intervention because she heard from the other kids but didn't think he was abusing drugs.

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Mrs. Jackson: I know he was taking pain medications. Many times I went to his room unannounced and I never saw him that way.

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Panish: Did you ever see Michael abuse drugs or medications?
Mrs. Jackson: No, I never saw

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He didn't talk much about his insomnia, Mrs. Jackson said. He couldn't sleep at all at night when he was at home.

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He had back injury too, she said. He had vitiligo, a disease that turns the skin white. "He just wanted to get it over with" she explained.

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Mrs. Jackson: He took that money from Pepsi settlement and donated it to the children's burn center.

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Mrs. Jackson said Michael had been burned, badly burned, and was in a lot of pain. He had a balloon under the scalp.

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One lady once told Grace 'don't they have great imaginations,' she said.

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The kids would go to Chuck & Cheese and other kids would ask do you have animals? They would say elephant, giraffes, Mrs. Jackson recalled.

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Katherine said the children loved Neverland.They were homeschooled.

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Panish: Did it have a train station?
Katherine: Yes
P: What is it called?
Mrs. J.: Katherine

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In the movie theater, Katherine said they had special chair for sick children who couldn't seat in regular seats.

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Mrs. Jackson said Michael made the ranch available to people. He opened it to disable children, would invite classes of children.

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"He finally got a candy store," Mrs. Jackson said.

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In 1988, Michael purchased Neverland. Panish showed video of it, the animals, roller coast, poem written by Michael, movie theater.

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Michael was involved in the Jehovah Witness for a while, did "filed service." He had to disguise himself, wore a fat suit.

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Mrs. Jackson: I was seating at the set, a white male man came to me and I said I'm here to see my son. He said 'mom, it's me!'

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Panish: Did MJ like music videos?
Mrs. Jackson: Oh yes. They were like short movies, Thriller. He invited me down while doing movie "Ghost."

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Panish showed video of the room. "He gave this to me," Mrs. Jackson said. Even the ceiling has pictures. "Everything is covered."

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Plaque to Katherine Jackson pic.twitter.com/ykKiZjKBfI

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He then got all the pictures and put them on the wall instead of wallpaper. He said 'here's your surprise,' she said.

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"The way you see Hayvenhurst is the way he rebuilt it," Mrs. Jackson said. He had a room upstairs he didn't want anyone to go in.

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But by that time houses had gone up to millions of dollars, so he decided to rebuild the house.

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MJ continued to live with Mrs. Jackson until her was 30. "When he became 18, he wanted to buy me a house," she testified.

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The sequined silver jacket MJ was using in Billie Jean was Katherine's. He went into her closet, got it before the show, never gave it back.

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He used to practice all the time, Mrs. Jackson said. He has a room over the garage where he danced two hours straight without stoping.

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Panish showed video of the first time MJ did the Moonwalk (Billie Jean song). Jurors smiled.

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He wanted to be known as MJ, not little Michael or little Jackson, Mrs. Jackson explained.

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She said he'd write where he wanted to be at certain time, how he wanted an album to sell. He was still living at home in Hayvenhurst.

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Panish: When Michael was 21, did he write down what his goals were?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, Michael wrote notes to himself

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Katherine said Michael and Quincy Jones got along very well, worked together in various projects: Thriller, Bad, Off the Wall.

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Jurors were highly entertained at this point. Some smiled, some pursed their lips as if they were trying not to smile.

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MJ was a straight A student. He liked movies, Katherine named a few: The Wiz, Sidney, 12 Angry Men. Panish show snippet of The Wiz.

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"My son was not lazy," Mrs. Jackson said. "That is the biggest lie around."

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Katherine said Michael didn't seat and watch TV. She said it's very hard for her to seat and watch them talking about Michael being lazy.

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Michael was a very good artist, Mrs. Jackson said. He did a lot of art in school and some of this pictures have been sold. He'd write songs.

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Despite that, Michael got a chocolate Labrador for the children, named Kenya. They had a turkey, a parrot, ferrets, mice, cats.

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Michael didn't like dogs, Mrs. Jackson said. She recalls one day of a dog bite and Michael been afraid ever since.

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Mrs. Jackson said MJ liked rats. One time they went to Beverly Hills to have dinner and he kept putting crumbs in his pocket to feed the rat

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Panish: Were you nervous about it?
Mrs. Jackson: I was a little bit, but he did well

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Special performances surprised Mrs. Jackson. When he was 14 he sang solo in the Academy Awards shows. "I was very proud of him," she said.

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Panish: As mother, when you saw MJ perform like that, how did you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I felt very proud

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Panish showed video of their early life in Gary, Indiana, dancing at 5, Motown, audition, ABC song, TV show, Motown 25.

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"They'd come and stay all day and sometimes they stayed so late I had to drive them home," Mrs. Jackson remembered.

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Mrs. Jackson explained the Jacksonmania that happened at this time. Shes said there was so many girls around the house she got tired of it.

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Jackson 5 started making records when they signed with Motown. The first 4 singles became number one records, Mrs. Jackson recalled.

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"I had always wanted to live in California," Mrs. Jackson explained, since Gary, Indiana was so cold and snowed.

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They signed with Motown in 1968. The boys moved first to California, Katherine came four months later.

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Mrs. Jackson: When Gladys Knight and Temptations would ask for us to be on stage with them and they got paid that way.

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Mrs. Jackson said she made the suits. She said they were called "Homemade suits" (the jury laughed) pic.twitter.com/LlTIwqBSrQ

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Jackson 5: The boys rehearsed at the house. "We saved money to buy amplifiers," Mrs. Jackson said. pic.twitter.com/97UJ3wehza

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Panish: How did that make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I cried
Jackson 5 lost a contest once to a boy who lived next door and won that year.

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Mrs. Jackson: Michael was 5 and the sang Climb Every Mountain. He started singing, my father and I cried like a baby.

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Originally, the name was Jackson Brothers Five, but the name was too long, so they cut it short to Jackson 5.

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Michael won every contest. When the other kids knew the Jacksons were coming they were Oh my God!, Mrs. Jackson said.

by WeAreTheWorld. Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:08 pm

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Panish finished direct examination. AEG's Marvin Putnam did cross examination.

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Panish: Mrs. Jackson, do you miss your son?
Mrs. Jackson: Words can't explain

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"Words could not describe the love for his children," Mrs. Jackson described.

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Mrs. Jackson said MJ's writing changed, he was more loving and meaningful, he wrote from his heart more.

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"Michael was one of the best fathers," Mrs. Jackson said. "You'd be surprised what a good father he was."

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Blanket doesn't want to cut his hair. Daddy loved his hair, so he doesn't want to cut it.

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Panish asked how Paris is affected. "Oh My God! She wanted to go where daddy was," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Paris took MJ's pajama top, didn't want anyone to wash it. She sat it on her bed.

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Prince is affected by not spending time with his father, Mrs. Jackson said.

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Mrs. Jackson said Paris was looking for a special heart. She found a broken heart, hung one part in Michael's neck and she put on the other.

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Paris' whole room is a collage of picture just like MJ had, Mrs. Jackson said.

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Paris had 5 big pictures of Michael in her room and Mrs. Jackson said she wondered how she could do that, she saw them and felt so sad.

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Panish asked about the adjustment without their father. She said the two boys I can say fine. Paris is having the hardest time.

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When they left, Paris said 'grandma, where are we going?' Mrs. Jackson told her 'you are going home with grandma.'

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"I went down to the morgue, never wanted to see Michael like that," Mrs. Jackson testified, crying.

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Mrs. Jackson: They were there hugging and saying 'Daddy, I love you!'

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"Paris was saying 'dad I want to do with you (crying), I can't live without you' that's what she kept saying."

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Mrs. Jackson didn't see the children until later. "I was crying so hard," she said.

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"Michael had a reaction," they told Mrs Jackson. "I said how is he? Did he make it? Did he make it? And Frank said no," she recalled, crying

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Mrs. Jackson: Nobody wanted to tell me, I was seating and waiting, I guess they were back debating.

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Mrs. Jackson said she saw many people who worked with Michael at the hospital, like Frank DiLeo. Dr. Murray was pacing back and forth.

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"Later on I got a call to go to the hospital, I thought he was just sick," Mrs. Jackson said.

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She said she had been out on field service and she said one of the fans said they brought someone out on a gurney completely covered up.

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Mrs. Jackson didn't know who Conrad Murray was until after MJ died. She didn't know MJ had died when she arrived at the hospital.

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Mrs. Jackson said she didn't think her son could do 50 shows every other night as was planned. She called Randy Phillips and Dr. Tohme.

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She said he was joking when he said he didn't want to do the Moonwalk at age 50. "He used to think that 50 was really old."

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Mrs. Jackson said she lost the best thing ever as she wiped out tears.
She said she heard about the This Is It tour through Grace Rwamba.

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"When a mother loses a child," Mrs. Jackson said crying "that's the worse than can happen to a person."

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Mrs. Jackson: That's the worse thing that could happen. When I lost Michael I lost everything. He was the most loving, very, very humble.

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As to how she's affect by the loss of love, support:
Mrs. Jackson: No one knows until it happened to some

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Panish: Did he give you money?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, cash. Michael never wrote checks

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Panish: Did he give you gifts?
Mrs Jackson: All the time. He gave me everything, the necessities of life, gifts, cars, jewelry, mobile homes

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Panish: When you received that, how did it make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I cried

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"Mother, My Guardian Angel" -- by Michael Jackson pic.twitter.com/ElcO7ITREY

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Handwritten note from Michael to Katherine Jackson. pic.twitter.com/KddXYIiCqz

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Panish: How did that make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: It made me cry for one thing... I felt very loved.

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Poem Michael wrote to his mother. pic.twitter.com/Trv1J3itVr

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"Michael and I were very close," Mrs. Jackson said. He was the son -- a mother wouldn't want a better son than Michael. He was very shy."

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Mrs. Jackson: At time time to me Michael looked ok. Later, I saw he was thin, he was dressed in jacket and all, I didn't notice he was thin.

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Picture of Katherine Jackson's 60th anniversary in May 2009. pic.twitter.com/9LjmzJWxMx

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Mrs. Jackson: Sometimes a mother is the last to know... and sometimes you are embarrassed.

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She went to MJ's Las Vegas home and talked to him about drug abuse. Michael said "Mom, I'm okay, I'm okay."

by WeAreTheWorld. Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:17 pm

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Mrs. Jackson will resume testimony on Monday at 9:30 am PT, with more cross examination. We hope to see you then! Have a great weekend!

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At this point, Mrs. Jackson spoke quietly to the judge and judge decided to end the day short, since she was too tired to continue.

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Mrs. Jackson said "yes." Putnam understood she was answering yes to him. "I'm not saying yes for you," she responded. Everyone laughed.

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Putnam asked if she provided any documents to her attorneys to give to them (defendants)?
Panish: Objection -- attorney-client privilege

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Mrs. Jackson: Before the Conrad Murray trial? I don't remember
There's no dispute as to the dates of Murray's criminal trial, Panish said.

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Putnam: Is there anything you thought about other than the discussion with your attorneys that you consider in deciding to bring lawsuit?

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Putnam: Is it fair to say the criminal trial didn't play in this lawsuit?
Panish: Objection, attorney/client privilege.

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Mrs. Jackson was at the criminal trial almost every day.

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Putnam asked if it was before or after the criminal trial of Dr. Murray. She said she did not remember.

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Putnam: Bringing lawsuit, hadn't spoken with grandchildren or children before filing the suit?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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Panish told court Mrs. Jackson was sleeping over lunch hour, since she got very little sleep last night, and will be probably 1 hour in pm.

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The attorneys stipulated that Mrs. Jackson dropped the lawsuit against Kenny Ortega. Then there was lunch break.

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Putnam asked if she sued Kenny Ortega as well. She said she doesn't' remember, there was a list of people in the suit.

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"My son was on prescription drugs, that doesn't make it true about other drugs they said he was on," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Putnam questioned the fact that Mrs. Jackson's attorneys didn't deny the fact that her son had problems with drugs.

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Putnam: It was very hard hearing all the bad things said about your son for the past 40 years?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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"My son is dead, so anything about him said that is bad, it hurts," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember who sent it, I know it is hard to seat here and listen to it. He's not a freak.

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Putnam asked if this was sent by someone who is not a party to this lawsuit, sent to AEG Live.

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Putnam asked what was untrue and bad things said in the trial. Mrs. Jackson said 'they called him freak, having a chance to meet the freak.'

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"I want the truth on what happened," Katherine testified.

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Putnam: He didn't like 2 rehearse in prior tours. "Michael didn't have to rehearse a lot, he knew the moves, he helped create them" she said

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"He was not lazy," Mrs. Jackson said. "Mr. Jackson was sick, he couldn't rehearse."

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Putnam said Gongaware explained lazy was because her son was late for rehearsal.

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Mrs. Jackson: The doctor was for his children but I didn't know who he was. Later I heard it was Dr. Murray.

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Putnam asked about Dr. Murray: "My son needed another doctor, a real doctor," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Putnam then asked: But the witnesses called were by your attorney, right? Mrs. Jackson responded yes.

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Mrs. Jackson: It hurts to seat here in court and hear how sick my son was and no one was trying to help him.

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"Why he didn't take a dime home? Because he was giving it to charity."

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"This week I had to listen how broke his was, he didn't take a dime home," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Mrs. Jackson said it was hard for her to be sitting here in the courtroom and listening people "call my son a freak, saying he is lazy."

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Mrs. Jackson: My son was sick and Kenny Ortega said nobody gave him a cup of tea. Nobody said call the doctor, let's see what's wrong w/ him

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"I heard stories and I heard from my grandson he was being pressured, that he was asking for his father, that Joe would know what to do."

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"I wanted to find out, I think I owe it to my son to find out what really happened to him," Mrs. Jackson said.

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"My life is as private as much as I can keep it private," she said. She said she was nervous being in front of people she doesn't know.

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Putnam asked her if she gave interviews to Dateline, 20/20, Oprah (after my son died). She said yes.

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"My family is famous, I was always on the background," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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Putnam asked her that despite being very private person she brought on this lawsuit and has lived a very public life for the past 40 years.

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She never talked to MJ's children about it, discussed with her children after, but not with Joe.

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She doesn't remember when it was filed, brought it on her behalf and the children. It was her choice to bring this lawsuit.

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Putnam: You initiated this lawsuit against AEG Live?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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Putnam asked if Katherine saw all the exhibits that were going to bed shown in court today. She said yes.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:14 pm

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Putnam: You heard about MJ having money problems?
Mrs. Jackson: I heard for years Michael Jackson was broken and he wasn't

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And Mrs. Jackson asked: "What does this have to do with the death of my son?"

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"They were being offered money under the table, that's what I heard from my son," Mrs. Jackson testified.

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She also said MJ told her too that people were making deals on his behalf.

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Mrs. Jackson testified she heard stories about it.
Putnam: Who did you hear that from?
Mrs. Jackson: Just different people

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"They have been saying it for 15 years," Mrs. Jackson said. "People were taking money from him also, stealing I should say."

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Putnam: Where you aware MJ was having financial difficulties when he passed away?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, I've heard from some people

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Regarding Michael having money problems, Mrs. Jackson said : "My son made a lot of money, he had people working for him."

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson had a bank account back in 2010 when she filed her lawsuit. She said she doesn't recall.

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Putnam asked again if there was any record of the money MJ gave her. She replied she didn't think she needed to.

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"When he gave me cash, it was a gift, I didn't think I needed to report to anyone," Mrs. Jackson said.

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"My son took care of me, food, shelter, clothes," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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"It was a gift," Mrs. Jackson said about the money she received from Michael. Putnam asked if she reported/recorded anywhere.

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Mrs. Jackson lives now in a gated community in Calabasas. Hayvenhurst house is under renovation.

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Putnam asking about the house in Gary, Indiana. It's been 44 years since she left and moved in to the Hayvenhurst house.

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The matriarch has a secretary, Janice Smith, who works for her for anywhere between 15-20 years. She has an office in Encino, CA.

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Mrs. Jackson said MJ would give her money in cash, but she would not write down the amounts.

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Putnam explained to Mrs. Jackson about the discovery process, where both sides have to exchange documents related to the case.

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Katherine Jackson back on the stand for cross examination. Session began at 9:55 am PT. Marvin Putnam, for AEG, doing the questioning.

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Katherine Jackson on the stand. Session about to begin. We'll bring you all the details as soon as possible.

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Judge told attorneys none of the steps have been taken yet, which means it's probably very unlikely they'd be able to get Dr. Murray in.

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Putnam responded on Friday he has no intention of calling him. Judge said there are several steps needed to bring an inmate to testify.

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Judge Yvette Palazuelos asked AEG attorney Marvin Putnam again on Friday whether he intends to call Dr. Murray to testify.

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They wanted to call Rwamba today, but they said she has a medical condition (lupus) that may prevent her from coming.

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The only witnesses remaining for the Jacksons are Kenny Ortega (who needs to come back for cross) and nanny Grace Rwamba.

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What are your thoughts so far about the trial?Jacksons' attorney, Brian Panish, said he's ending his case in chief.

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Our reporter Miriam Hernandez is in the courtroom. We are in the overflow room, where a lot of fans are.

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Session has not started yet. As a reminder, we can't live tweet, per judge's ruling. We'll bring you all the coverage as soon as we can.

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Mrs. Jackson spent a few hours on the stand on Friday detailing the humble beginning of MJ's life and how he rose to fame.

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Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine, is set to take the stand again today to resume cross examination.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtwon LA. Day 53 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial just about to begin. This is Week 13 of the trial.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:18 pm

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson ever saw MJ under the influence of any drug. She said no, that it's something she never saw during his lifetime

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Putnam: Did you drop the restitution claim so you could file this lawsuit?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Mrs. Jackson said she believes the DA may have dropped the $100 million restitution claim.

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Mrs. Jackson: I asked them to drop it because of his children, he has quite a few children, 7 or 8, I don't know.

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Putnam: You asked the DA to drop the $100 million restitution claim against Dr. Murray?

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"Because I felt his children needed him to take care of them," she explained. "He didn't have any money."

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Mrs. Jackson said yes, that Dr. Murray has children and has no money.

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Putnam inquired about Mrs. Jackson asking the District Attorney to drop the $100 million restitution against Dr. Murray.

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He asked if the doctor is now in jail. "I hope he is," she responded.

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Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson if Dr. Murray was convicted in the criminal trial. She said yes.

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Putnam: You do believe Dr. Murray has some responsibility for your son's death?
Mrs. Jackson: Of course

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson talked to her grandchildren about Dr. Murray treating MJ in a locked, upstairs bedroom. She answered no.

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"It would've been important but I told you I didn't talk to my grandchildren about that," Mrs. Jackson responded.

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Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson's search for the truth and if she thought it would be important to know whether the doctor spending the nights.

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Putnam: Do you remember him (Prince) saying he (the doctor) spent 6 nights a week?
Mrs. Jackson: No, I don't remember that

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Putnam asked if Prince testified a doctor was spending the nights at the house.
Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember him saying that

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Putnam: Did you ever have conversation with your grandchildren prior to trial about the doctor spending the night at the house? She said no

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Putnam: Prior to your son's death, did you know your son had a doctor spending the night at the house?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard about Dr. Murray prior to MJ's death. Her son did not discuss what treatments he was having with her.

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Mrs. Jackson said she can't recall exactly what was said in the Dateline interview, but she does remember saying MJ hired the doctor.

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"I don't think he could've prevented his own death," Mrs. Jackson testified. "I just said I thought he hired the doctor. I do recall that."

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Putnam: Do you recall why you said your son hired the doctor and that your son could've prevented his own death?

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Mrs Jackson said that's all that's been talked about in the trial and that she remembers emails, Phillips' interview saying AEG hired Murray

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"I didn't say I didn't remember anything, I said I'm 83, I would 't remember everything," Mrs. Jackson responded.

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Putnam asked how she remembers it when she said her memory wasn't very good.

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Mrs. Jackson: I had heard they had hired and there was the doctor there so I thought MJ had hired him, not knowing the facts.

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She said from hearing the emails, AEG said they had hired him and that Randy Phillips went on TV saying they hired him.

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Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't believe that MJ hired Dr. Murray because of what she's been listening here in court.

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"He didn't say stacks, he measure with his fingers," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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Putnam asked if she heard testimony from Prince saying he would give Dr. Murray stacks of money in a rubber band.

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Putnam asked if MJ ever paid Dr. Murray. She answered it was to treat the children.

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Putnam: You heard testimony MJ hired Dr. Murray in Las Vegas?
Mrs Jackson: He had doctors for his children, I don't know if it was Dr Murray

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Putnam: Do you believe your son hired Dr. Murray?
Mrs. Jackson: No I don't

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"Conrad Murray, even if he asked, he could've said no," Mrs. Jackson opined.

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Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard that MJ asked other doctors for Propofol. Putnam asked if that came to a surprise for her. She said yes.

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Putnam: Did you hear from the criminal trial that your son asked Dr. Murray to give him Propofol?
Mrs. Jackson: I have heard

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Putnam: Do you remember MJ asking for Propofol?
Panish: Calls for hearsay response

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Putnam: Do you believe your son MJ knew Dr. Murray was giving him Propofol?
Panish: Objection, calls for speculation

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Putnam: You never believed your son had any part in his own death?
Mrs. Jackson: Correct!

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Putnam: Do you believe that your son is in any way responsible for his passing?
Mrs. Jackson: No I don't

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson has been here most of the days over the past 12 weeks.

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Putnam asked about the damages Mrs. Jackson asked for in her lawsuit. MJ's mother responded that he could ask her attorneys about it.

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Putnam: Did you ever ask MJ about having money problems?
Mrs. Jackson: No, because I didn't believe it. Because he wasn't.

by WeAreTheWorld. Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:22 pm

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Tito, Marlon, Jackie, Jermaine, Katherine signed this letter. Putnam asked why she signed it if it wasn't true, she said I wanted it to stop

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"There are lies, these are all lies," Mrs. Jackson said. "We didn't try to take his business away."

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Mrs. Jackson said she never attempted to take her son's business. Just because it's in the magazine tabloids doesn't make it true, she said.

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Mrs. Jackson: We were not trying to take away the business or anything like that. That's a lie.

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Putnam showed a letter on People Magazine (Sept. 7, 2007) the family sent about MJ not addicted to pain killers and alcohol.

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After intervention at Neverland in 2002 Putnam asked if her mind changed about MJ abusing drugs. She said she didn't know one way or another

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"I knew he was on prescription drugs, but he was not abusing it," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Putnam: Do you remember in your deposition you didn't know whether to believe your son at all?

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Mrs. Jackson said she was upset with Putnam during deposition. "I was just tired of you asking the same question 50 times in different ways"

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Putnam asked if at the intervention MJ denied he was on influence of prescription drugs?
Mrs. Jackson: To tell you the truth, I don't know

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Putnam played part of Mrs. Jackson's deposition where she said she knew MJ was upset, by the way he talked, said "I'm not on it," that's all

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Putnam: After he got upset, did he say to you "I'm not on it, I'm not on anything?"
Mrs. Jackson: He didn't say that

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson saw him upset. "If I said he was upset, I did see it," she responded.

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Mrs. Jackson: It was kind of embarrassing, because they didn't see anything.

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"He didn't deny anything, he was ok," Mrs. Jackson said. There was no deep discussion, we got there and he was ok, he was upset."

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"We asked if he was okay, he got upset and we didn't talk about it," Mrs. Jackson explained.

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Putnam asked if MJ was mad they came for an intervention.
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, because when we got there, there was nothing wrong with him

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Putnam: Do you recall this taking place in 2002?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes
Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't believe MJ knew why they were there.

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She said there was a person who came along that Janet brought specialized in intervention.

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She doesn't remember all the siblings present, but probably Janet, Rebbie and Randy were there.

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Even tough Mrs. Jackson didn't believe MJ was abusing prescription drugs she was part of an intervention at Neverland.

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"I believe he was taking it, but I don't believe he was abusing it" Mrs Jackson said. "I just asked him the question, I wanted to make sure"

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Putnam: Has there ever been a time you believe your son was abusing prescription drugs?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Mrs. Jackson: You do understand (the answer) and you keep asking the same question

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Mrs. Jackson: You're just trying to confuse me so that you can come back with something.

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Putnam: He wasn't a child but 50 years old?
Mrs Jackson: He was still my child, I'm still his mother and he wants to hold his respect for me

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Mrs. Jackson: My child, he respected his mother he didn't want to hurt if it was bad

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Mrs. Jackson to Putnam: I don't think it's that serious that you have to drill it like that on me.

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"It's because he didn't want me to worry," Mrs. Jackson said. "I just talked to him about it."

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Mrs. Jackson: I'm not answering that question. Because to me it doesn't make sense. I didn't know he was going to deny it.

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Putnam: If you knew your son was going to deny it, why did you ask him?

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Mrs. Jackson: It didn't surprise me, I'm the mother, he would not want his mother to worry about him.

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Mrs. Jackson said she didn't know MJ was taking pain pills, she couldn't prove it, that's what she had heard.

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"I was his mother, I imagined he'd deny it," Mrs. Jackson explained. "No child is going to admit it, if I heard something bad about them."

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Putnam: When you said that, he denied it, right?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes he did

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"I've heard that something had happened to him," Mrs. Jackson described.

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Mrs. Jackson spoke with Michael about what she heard of him using prescription drugs.

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Putnam inquired if MJ left the country after the trial. She said yes. When MJ came back he lived in Las Vegas never lived in Neverland again

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Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson is she remembers her son's criminal trial in 2005. She said yes, and that she attended the trial every day.

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"A couple of children came to me and told me they had heard about it," Mrs. Jackson said. She had conversation w/ MJ about it in Las Vegas.

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson's children told her MJ was under the influence of something. She said yes.

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Putnam: Did you ever speak with your son on the phone when he was out of it?
Mrs. Jackson: No. Out of what?

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She would show up at the house unannounced and said she never saw her son "loopy".

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Panish: Issue of restitution was the state decision and you told them not to do it, correct?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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Panish showed picture of MJ in June 09 and asked if she ever saw her son like that. "Never," said Mrs. Jackson crying, wiping her eyes.

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"They watched him waste away and waited, I know they did it," Mrs. Jackson said, crying.

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Mrs. Jackson: They were there, without calling somebody. My husband and I would have been there in a second (crying)

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Panish: Did AEG ever tell you they called your son a freak?
Mrs. Jackson: No
P: And that it was creepy meeting your son?
Mrs. J: No (crying)

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"The could've called me, he was asking for his father, he was scared, he was asking for Joseph," Mrs. Jackson said, crying.

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Mrs. Jackson said she learned about MJ's condition in court, that AEG never told her MJ was deteriorating, paranoia, losing weight, rambling

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Panish asked if she knew Hougdahl wrote an email to AEG that MJ was deteriorating in front of his eyes?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Panish: Did you know your son was sleep-deprived for 60 days?
Mrs. Jackson: No, I didn't

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Phillips and Gongaware never called/send card to Mrs. Jackson after MJ died, Mrs Jackson said. Kenny Ortega went to see her, she said.

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"Why," Panish asked. "I wanted to find out what really happened to my son," Mrs. Jackson responded.

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Panish asked what she did to go about this case. "I hired your firm," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Mrs Jackson said she doesn't know anything about computers, it's not a lawyer or investigator. Her highest level of education is high school

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Panish: Farrakhan and Nation of Islam, does that have anything to do with your son's death?
Mrs. Jackson: No
P: Were you upset?
Mrs. J: Yes

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Panish inquired if Putnam asked during deposition personal question?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, he asked 'did your husband beat you'?

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Panish: Did you rely on him (MJ) for all necessities of life?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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In re-direct, Panish asked if before MJ died, was he paying for everything?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, paying for everything

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Mrs. Jackson said she told Janet she didn't have to continue to send her money after MJ died.

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Mrs. Jackson said she was receiving that amount when MJ died. The money went to her assistant Janice at the office.

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At first, it was not on a monthly basis, but it became that way, Mrs. Jackson explained. Janet sent her $10,000 a month.

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Mrs. Jackson testified she was receiving money from MJ and also from Janet Jackson.

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Mrs. Jackson said she never told AEG Live or Randy Phillips about MJ having drug problem.

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Putnam: Did you tell Mr. DiLeo you were concerned that your son was abusing painkillers?
Mrs. Jackson: No, since he had just come back

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Mrs. Jackson: Michael and DiLeo told me he was back for the This Is It tour.

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Putnam asked if it was someone other than MJ who hired DiLeo. "I think so, Michael didn't want him back," she said.

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Mrs. Jackson wanted to know why people kept re-hiring people Michael had fired.

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She remembers answering the phone when Frank DiLeo went back to work for Michael.

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Mrs. Jackson said she had many conversations with Frank DiLeo and they were all friendly.

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Mrs. Jackson said she never discussed with her son's attorneys or managers about her concerns.

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Putnam: Was there any time during the criminal trial that you were concerned MJ was under the influence of something?
Mrs. Jackson: No

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Putnam: Was there a time you were concerned with MJ using painkillers?
Mrs. Jackson: I can't say I weren't concerned

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"I didn't know what to believe," she said. "I went to Neverland because my children kept asking me and I was concerned."

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Putnam: Do you think your son was abusing painkillers?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't know

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"I didn't know what to believe," Mrs. Jackson said.
Mrs. Jackson conceded she denied this morning that her son was abusing drugs.

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Mrs. Jackson: I kind of believe it and didn't believe it, hearing from my children, hearing from other people.

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Mrs. Jackson told Oprah she didn't want to hear MJ had overdosed. MJ kept saying he wasn't on it, and that his own mother didn't believe him

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She also said about the family's attempted intervention: the children told her to take MJ to rehab and kind of clean him up.

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In Oprah's interview, Mrs. Jackson said it was a long time before she knew MJ was addicted to painkillers.

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Mrs. Jackson: I told you MJ was on painkillers, but I don't think he was abusing it.

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Putnam: You said you believed your son was addicted to drugs?
Mrs. Jackson: I told Oprah that

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Putnam: Did you try to tell the truth in that interview?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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Oprah's interview aired about a month after the the lawsuit was filed. She watched it when it aired at the Hayvenhurst house.

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Putnam asked if she recalls sitting down for interview with Oprah Winfrey in the fall of 2010. Mrs. Jackson said yes.

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Putnam asked if Mrs Jackson knows there were a number of doctors who testified in this case. She said she didn't know, didn't see deposition

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Mrs. Jackson said she does not remember MJ showing her a Narcan patch.

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As to Louis Farrakhan -- she met him, but doesn't remember seeing him at Neverland.

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Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't remember discussing the implant in 2002.

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Putnam: Do you remember testimony about MJ having an implant to treat Demerol?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't know anything about that

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"I don't remember who Dr. Farshchian is and I don't remember treating Michael for Demerol," Mrs. Jackson said.

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Putnam asked if Dr. Farshchian testified he spoke with her because she wanted to know all the details of her son's Demerol use.

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Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson transcript of Dr. Farshchian's deposition and asked if that refreshed her recollection. She said it doesn't.

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Mrs. Jackson said he doesn't recall Dr. Farshchian and does not recall any phone call with any doctor about MJ's addiction to Demerol.

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Putnam asked about the attempted intervention in 2002. He asked about Dr. Farshchian treating MJ's addiction to Demerol.

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Mrs. Jackson wore black and white print long jacket with fuchsia flowers, with cranberry top and skirt.

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Mrs. Jackson: I don't like hearing bad news.

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Putnam asked about whether she shut her ears to bad things. "I may have said that but I don't remember," Mrs. Jackson responded.

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MJ's mother said she never heard before tour had been canceled because of MJ's rehab. She said it doesn't mean it wasn't but she didn't know

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Mrs. Jackson said she did not discuss with MJ about it and had never heard MJ's 1993 announcement he was going into rehab.

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Mrs. Jackson: My children probably didn't want me to know about it.

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Mrs. Jackson: I had heard that, that Elizabeth Taylor had something to do about drugs but I don't watch television that much.

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Putnam: Were you aware your son MJ had gone to rehab before?

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Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson Randy's deposition saying MJ asked her to sign the letter. She said it doesn't refresh her recollection about it.

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Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't' remember MJ being involved in the draft of the letter. She doesn't know who asked her to sign it.

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Putnam: Isn't it true your son MJ asked you to sign this?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember my son asking me to sign this

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Mrs. Jackson: As far as the tabloids, I didn't waste my time because I know all they do is to try to make money

by WeAreTheWorld. Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:06 am

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And that ended Day 53 of the trial. We hope to see you tomorrow for all the details of John Meglen's testimony. Have a great night everybody

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Plaintiffs want to bring Rwamba to testify before they rest their case. They still need to finish Ortega's testimony too.

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Outside the presence of jury, Panish said Deborah Chang spoke with Grace Rwamba's lawyer and he doesn't' know where she is.

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Meglen said the expense of the show production falls under the artist to pay. Judge adjourned until tomorrow at 9:45 am PT.

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Meglen said almost immediately Gongaware took the lead on the MJ's This Is It project, since he had prior experience with MJ.

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"He was very excited," Meglen said. "He was great, full of energy, seem taller, firm handshake, he was there, he was very, very excited."

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Meglen said MJ asked Gongaware about Brigitte, his girlfriend at the time. They wanted MJ to choose them for a comeback tour.

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MJ recognized Gongaware, Meglen said. He came out of the bedroom, "Whenever I see Paul Gongaware I know everything is going to be all right"

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The meeting was to let MJ know what AEG was about, Meglen said. Gongaware, Raymone Bain (MJ's manager), Lopez, MJ were present.

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Meglen said he next met MJ in 2007 with Peter Lopez, MJ's attorney at the time at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas.

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Bina asked if Wikipedia was wrong in saying the shows were sold out. "I don't use Wikipedia as source for my business," Meglen said.

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They both sold half house, he said, which is half of the tickets available. Meglen said they hid he empty seats so it wouldn't show.

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Meglen watched both shows and said it was great. Marcel Avram was the promoter.

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Meglen worked with MJ prior to "This Is It" once. He was a consultant to a firm in Japan that promoted two MJ shows in 1986 around Christmas

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When they created Concerts West, Meglen said their first tour was Andrea Bocelli. They promoted first tour of Mariah Carey.

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Meglen said he doesn't think being the number 1 is necessarily a good thing. He explained it is the difference between quality and quantity.

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Bina talked about rivalry between AEG Live and Live Nation.

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Meglen said he went to Veterinarian school initially. "I feel like I work with animals some times," he joked.

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Paul Gongaware is co-CEO of Concerts West with Meglen. He described his extensive background in the business.

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John Meglen is a concert promoter, works at AEG Live, he's the president and CEO of Concerts West.

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AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did direct examination.

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AEG called their next witness, John Meglen.

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Judge told jury we are now moving to defendants' case, even though plaintiffs have not yet rested their case in chief.

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Mrs. Jackson: The CEO of AEG
Mrs. Jackson was then excused. She went home for the rest of the day to rest.

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In re-re-re-direct, Panish asked: Who do you think it's in a better position to know who hired the doctor, you or the CEO of AEG?

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Putnam said one of them was not right in their interview. Mrs. Jackson answered: "I'm not correct."

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Mrs. Jackson: Like I said, I didn't know who hired him at that time.

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In re-re-cross, Putnam inquired Phillips said 'we hired him' and Mrs. Jackson said 'Michael' hired him.

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Mrs. Jackson: No, not at all. The children knew her, they wanted her, that's why.

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Mrs. Jackson: Kai Chase has been working for me not quite a year yet
Panish: Did you hire Kai Chase so she would testify in your favor?

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Panish: There was a suggestion in this trial you hired Kai Chase back so she can testify in your favor?

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Panish showed video of Phillips saying they hired him.
Panish: Did Sister Rose discuss with you about AEG pressuring MJ?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes

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Regarding the interview, Mrs. Jackson said she just assumed, she didn't know whether MJ had hired Dr. Murray.

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She's a Jehovah's Witness and there's a difference between her religion and the Nation of Islam.

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In re-re-direct, Panish asked: They still didn't send a card, did they?
Mrs. Jackson: No. Thousands and thousands of people sent her card.

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Mrs. Jackson said AEG told her if she did the memorial service at the Staples Center it would be free (she wanted to do it at the Coliseum)

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Putnam asked if AEG put together a Memorial Service for MJ. She said yes.

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson knows Gongaware. "No, but that shouldn't have stopped him, to say I'm sorry what happened to your son" she said

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Putnam: Did I say anything improper in the deposition regarding the Nation of Islam?
Mrs. Jackson: You were asking me question about it

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Mrs. Jackson doesn't know why Sister Rose is called sister and Brother Michael is brother.

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"She told me that MJ was very weak, and she told me that she talked about what went down at the practice, they had to hold him up" she said

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson spoke with Sister Rose, the kids' nanny.

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"I could, but I didn't want to bring that up with them," Mrs. Jackson answered.

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Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson talked to her grandchildren about Dr. Murray in search of the truth.

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In re-cross, Putnam showed a video where Mrs. Jackson said "It could've been prevented, he hired a doctor to take care of him."

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Panish asked if the figure for restitution was set by the state. Mrs. Jackson said yes.

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Panish said the attorneys should not have any contact with the jurors whatsoever. Bina said it was not her intention, apologized.

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He said the proper procedure is to hand the documents to the clerk or bailiff and let them handle them to the jury.

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Outside the jury presence, Panish complained to the judge that AEG's attorney Jessica Bina handed over copies of exhibits to the jury.

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Bina shows another exhibit. There's dispute as to which exhibit has been admitted already or not. Judge sent jury to lunch.

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"You're lucky if you can hit 60 (thousand)," Meglen said.

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The Rose Bowl is one of the biggest stadiums in the country and there is the idea that it fits 100k people, Meglen explained.

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Rolling Stones had 59,000 people, the maximum capacity they could have at The Rose Bowl, Meglen said.

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It's also much more expensive to do a stadium show, Meglen explained.

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Meglen said you can't put an arena show into a stadium, specially because of the size of the stage and the production.

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People buy the suites on an annual basis and it includes concerts. The building gets the money, not the promoter or artist.

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All stadiums and arenas have suites and the promoters and artists don't get to charge them, Meglen said.

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The projections the Jacksons expert produced is more than that, Meglen said. He estimated they would sell 220 degrees in MJ's shows.

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Meglen explained the stadiums normally don't allow sale of full capacity. The stage is big, when you sell all around is called 360 degrees.

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Jacksons attorney objected saying Meglen has no experience in India. Judge sustained.

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Meglen said he probably has never proposed an India concert. "Nobody goes to India," Meglen said.

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He said tribute shows don't do well when the artist is alive, since people want to see the actual performer.

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While Michael Jackson was alive, Meglen said the ideal would be to have the artist live as a residency show. But that wasn't an option.

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Meglen said there was a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years. "The Estate told us they were not interested," Meglen said.

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Meglen said they were very interested in a MJ Las Vegas show. He said he made an offer as attractive of better than Cirque's proposal.

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Meglen: You run 10 years (in a residency show) and you hit a home run.

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The promoter said he got one meeting with the executor of MJ's Estate, John Branca, but they were already involved with Cirque du Soleil.

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Meglen said he became aware the Estate of MJ was in talks with Cirque du Soleil for a show in Vegas, which gave AEG a sense of urgency.

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Meglen said they wanted to take this to another level, creating an entire campus as opposed to just a show and a boutique.

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Bina showed a document with an a structural outline with the concept of the Las Vegas show, possible partners and numbers.

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This was after Michael Jackson passed away. Meglen said this was never proposed before he died.

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Meglen: It'd involve artifacts in MJ exhibit, items from Neverland, 2 restaurants, nightclub and a theatrical show directed by Kenny Ortega.

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Meglen: We proposed to the Estate a Michael Jackson Campus at the Planet Hollywood Hotel

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Meglen said he has put together a show idea for Las Vegas involving Michael Jackson, but not a residential show.

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An arena is an ambitious step to take the model of a Las Vegas show. Arena fits 50k-60k people, Meglen said.

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Meglen said the average ticket price for a headliner show in Las Vegas currently is $100-$125.

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He said the promoter would be able to survive with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week, but not the artist.

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A residency show needs more than 2 and 1/2 shows per week to be able to pay expenses and make money, Meglen explained.

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He said the hotels want customers every night, so resident shows need to have a constant schedule and few days off.

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The promoter said the hotels in Las Vegas would not allow an artist to have a residency show with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week.

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Meglen said he had one show in Las Vegas that didn't sell tremendously well and they had to shut down production early. No names mentioned.

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Celine Dion, Meglen said, not only uses Teleprompter but has an ear piece with director speaking to her.

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The rehearsal is more for the people around the artist, Meglen said. He said it is very common for artists to use TelePrompTers.

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Meglen said Celine Dion's director was freaking out because she was not showing up for rehearsals.

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Meglen said he had never seen an AEG contract where the artist is required to rehearse.

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He said you're dealing with singers, sometimes you have a lot of dancers on shows, so doctors, physical therapists, chefs, not uncommon.

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Bina: Is it worrisome to have a doctor come on tour?
Meglen responded no, not at all.

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Meglen said he has been involved in tours where a doctor was part of the production. He named Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, John Denver.

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Meglen wasn't involved in the production of TII. He has never met Dr. Murray and has not seen any draft agreement between AEG and the doctor

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This is the type of deal for Led Zeppelin, Elvis Presley, Neal Diamond, Meglen testified.

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"They are worried about what their shares are as opposed to guarantee," Meglen explained.

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The superstar deals: the selling of tickets is kind of a given, Meglen said. So they get out of guarantee and get profit participation.

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The promoter said AEG advanced the money for "This Is It" tour.

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Meglen said Paul Gongaware called Michael Jackson 'Mikey' because they knew each other.

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Meglen would have to approve a worldwide budget, he said. And it all depended on the London shows success and their review.

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It was a long way to the completion of the London shows, so Meglen said there was no urgency in figuring out where to go after that.

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He explained that the only one that went thru the approval process was the London shows.

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Meglen: The London shows were the only approved shows from our standpoint at AEG

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Meglen said he was aware of talks about a worldwide tour with MJ.

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Meglen said he was not intimately involved in the budget tour and budget production, but has seen them and knows what a budget is.

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The show net is where you determine the artist gross from, Meglen explained.

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"You can't compare net of artists because they all spend differently on the road," Meglen said.

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The promoter said normally they talk about show net, what we call artist gross, is when discussing money.

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Meglen said MJ had sold stadium shows in London before, had a successful track record there.

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He said there are a lot of rich people in China, but a lot people with not as much money.

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However, Meglen said the economics wasn't there for Asia, couldn't get a high enough ticket price in China.

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Meglen said the other option was Asia, Japan especially. He has done a number of other tours in Asia.

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Meglen: We weren't sure what the reaction, ticket sale would be in N America because of the historic stuff Michael had gone before in the US

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"We did not want to start the tour in North America," Meglen said.

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He said the strength of artist's popularity is based on ticket sales, ticket sales of similar artists, record sales, radio time playing.

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The promoter said they considered London, the biggest market in the world, since it has a new, hot arena.

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Then they met again in ealry 2008 and began discussions of what to do and where to go with MJ's comeback tour.

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Meglen didn't have involvement in Michael Jackson's contract. He said after the initial meeting, there was a quiet period.

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Katherine Jackson is not present in court today. John Meglen, co-CEo of Concerts West, is back on the stand. Jessica Bina questioning him.

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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 54, Week 13 of Jackson family vs AEG trial is under way.

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